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On September 12 2014 05:56 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2014 05:51 LeLoup wrote:
It's a solid point right now. There are like 4 or maybe 5 players in all of NA that play support at even a reasonable level. It's the most ridiculous thing you can ever witness because when you watch NA and then go right into Chinese play it's like night and day. And the only team that does actually have 2 decent ones are having an issue where the second one doesn't want to play the position anymore.
Seriously it's just laughable. It's like the most typical American mentality. Everyone thinks they are special and a star and nobody knows how to win. Or you get cores like Fear that will make space for his supports to get the shit they need. Rather than some players who were supports, but then decided they should be a carry because they clearly are the hero everyone needs.
That's more about EG's playstyle than it is to do with Fear being a fantastic carry.
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On September 12 2014 05:57 kollin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2014 05:56 Plansix wrote:On September 12 2014 05:51 LeLoup wrote:
It's a solid point right now. There are like 4 or maybe 5 players in all of NA that play support at even a reasonable level. It's the most ridiculous thing you can ever witness because when you watch NA and then go right into Chinese play it's like night and day. And the only team that does actually have 2 decent ones are having an issue where the second one doesn't want to play the position anymore.
Seriously it's just laughable. It's like the most typical American mentality. Everyone thinks they are special and a star and nobody knows how to win. Or you get cores like Fear that will make space for his supports to get the shit they need. Rather than some players who were supports, but then decided they should be a carry because they clearly are the hero everyone needs. That's more about EG's playstyle than it is to do with Fear being a fantastic carry.
Yeah, but Zai is getting into that mentality that he has to get farm to have an impact and I think that is going to hurt EG. Sure Fear can play with that kind of guy, but the fact of the matter is that as a support you aren't always going to get games where you can play PPD protects 4.
Outside of his Enigma play, I really am falling out of favor with Zai. He's starting to remind me of Wayto too much.
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On September 12 2014 05:57 kollin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2014 05:56 Plansix wrote:On September 12 2014 05:51 LeLoup wrote:
It's a solid point right now. There are like 4 or maybe 5 players in all of NA that play support at even a reasonable level. It's the most ridiculous thing you can ever witness because when you watch NA and then go right into Chinese play it's like night and day. And the only team that does actually have 2 decent ones are having an issue where the second one doesn't want to play the position anymore.
Seriously it's just laughable. It's like the most typical American mentality. Everyone thinks they are special and a star and nobody knows how to win. Or you get cores like Fear that will make space for his supports to get the shit they need. Rather than some players who were supports, but then decided they should be a carry because they clearly are the hero everyone needs. That's more about EG's playstyle than it is to do with Fear being a fantastic carry.
Its the play style that wins games. Fear knows they don't need someone who farms that hard, they have RTZ, so he is filling the role that is needed. Its not about the right way to play Dota, its about the right way to play with the teammates you have. Thats how all teams win games in all sports.
On September 12 2014 06:00 LeLoup wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2014 05:57 kollin wrote:On September 12 2014 05:56 Plansix wrote:On September 12 2014 05:51 LeLoup wrote:
It's a solid point right now. There are like 4 or maybe 5 players in all of NA that play support at even a reasonable level. It's the most ridiculous thing you can ever witness because when you watch NA and then go right into Chinese play it's like night and day. And the only team that does actually have 2 decent ones are having an issue where the second one doesn't want to play the position anymore.
Seriously it's just laughable. It's like the most typical American mentality. Everyone thinks they are special and a star and nobody knows how to win. Or you get cores like Fear that will make space for his supports to get the shit they need. Rather than some players who were supports, but then decided they should be a carry because they clearly are the hero everyone needs. That's more about EG's playstyle than it is to do with Fear being a fantastic carry. Yeah, but Zai is getting into that mentality that he has to get farm to have an impact and I think that is going to hurt EG. Sure Fear can play with that kind of guy, but the fact of the matter is that as a support you aren't always going to get games where you can play PPD protects 4. Outside of his Enigma play, I really am falling out of favor with Zai. He's starting to remind me of Wayto too much.
I don't think its a huge issue at this point. I see it more as the team wants a bunch of different players who can fill in the gap if another one gets shut down by the draft or in game.
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I didn't say anything about the right way to play Dota but it's not like fear's decision to move off the safelane with his usually midgame core and gank is one of boggling tactical depth as I'm sure they've discussed it and practiced it hundreds of times in the past.
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On September 12 2014 05:55 LeLoup wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2014 05:53 Comeh wrote:On September 12 2014 05:51 LeLoup wrote:
It's a solid point right now. There are like 4 or maybe 5 players in all of NA that play support at even a reasonable level. It's the most ridiculous thing you can ever witness because when you watch NA and then go right into Chinese play it's like night and day. And the only team that does actually have 2 decent ones are having an issue where the second one doesn't want to play the position anymore.
Seriously it's just laughable. It's like the most typical American mentality. Everyone thinks they are special and a star and nobody knows how to win. There's honestly only 4-5 good supports in the entire west. And one of them plays carry right now. As a whole, I'd say China has superior skilled players in every position other than mid (which is even). I said reasonable, not good. Big difference between the two. Also I'd say that offlane has been a strength of the West for a while now. Universe, Bulldog, Bone7, and Funnik are at least equal with the big Chinese ones if not slightly better. Ohiyo might be one of the best in the world, but he's Malaysian not Chinese.
Universe and Bone7, yes. But I'm "eh' about bulldog for a long time (minus his prophet), and I think Funnik really hasn't performed beyond average since TI3
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are you drpanda? didn't know lol
also
Also if your first 0.30 camp is trolls you lost the jungle and might as well just leave the game.
i thought i was doing something stupid but those fucking skeletons
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On September 12 2014 06:08 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2014 05:55 LeLoup wrote:On September 12 2014 05:53 Comeh wrote:On September 12 2014 05:51 LeLoup wrote:
It's a solid point right now. There are like 4 or maybe 5 players in all of NA that play support at even a reasonable level. It's the most ridiculous thing you can ever witness because when you watch NA and then go right into Chinese play it's like night and day. And the only team that does actually have 2 decent ones are having an issue where the second one doesn't want to play the position anymore.
Seriously it's just laughable. It's like the most typical American mentality. Everyone thinks they are special and a star and nobody knows how to win. There's honestly only 4-5 good supports in the entire west. And one of them plays carry right now. As a whole, I'd say China has superior skilled players in every position other than mid (which is even). I said reasonable, not good. Big difference between the two. Also I'd say that offlane has been a strength of the West for a while now. Universe, Bulldog, Bone7, and Funnik are at least equal with the big Chinese ones if not slightly better. Ohiyo might be one of the best in the world, but he's Malaysian not Chinese. Universe and Bone7, yes. But I'm "eh' about bulldog for a long time (minus his prophet), and I think Funnik really hasn't performed beyond average since TI3
I was too for a while, but he's grown and adapted well enough IMO. The issue is that big farming ones aren't in vogue right now, which is where his strength lies. His Broodmama is going to be interesting to watch if he gets the chance to play it. Plus his LD is still arguably the best in the world.
As for Funnik, I think NaVi had a lot of issues. Funnik however was not ever one of them. He's quiet and not as flashy as Universe has been, but overall he's probably one of the best pure laners in the game right now and does a good job at keeping enemy safe lane farm down.
Also if we really want to be bold, we can throw Demon on that list, because when he is on there aren't many other players at his level. The issue of course though being that he can throw even the most won games, but that's what you get with him.
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On September 12 2014 06:14 pedrlz wrote:are you drpanda? didn't know lol
Yes, thought it would be better in the long run to use the nickname I use everywhere else here as well.
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So if instead of getting 6.82 next month we got Brood, Earth, and LC would you kids be happy?
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No, brood and earth don't belong in CM.
LC does though, as does TB I think.
But want 6.82 anyway
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On September 12 2014 06:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
No, brood and earth don't belong in CM.
LC does though, as does TB I think.
But want 6.82 anyway
Just wait
Phoenix is coming.
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On September 12 2014 06:50 LeLoup wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2014 06:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
No, brood and earth don't belong in CM.
LC does though, as does TB I think.
But want 6.82 anyway Just wait Phoenix is coming.
Phoenix is unpickable, bring her on.
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Broods fine, LC is fine, ....TB is probably fine in competitive play (not too sure tbh) Phoenix might be balanced im not sure tbh
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Brood is fine for CM (underpowered ATM though- think charge based webs and/or a subability to consume a web to be able to place one somewhere else would be a nice buff)
TB is ready for CM (though a *minor* str gain/base str buff would be nice)
ES is OP as fuck (and are stone remnants in fog still bugged?)
Phoenix is OP
LC is OP
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Let's change it then.
So if instead of getting 6.82 next month we got 3 of the non cm heros in cm would you kids be happy?
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On September 12 2014 05:17 villainzilla wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2014 05:15 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
the gd studio is steaming
Currently some non-Darude tunes and a break screen. It's the best programming I've ever watched. they're still alive?
They spent the last month or so looking for a new house/studio. They just released a video tour of it yesterday, but it looks like most things aren't set up yet. James is still putting together their IKEA furniture 
I'm guessing they will start doing content again in a few weeks.
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On September 12 2014 06:50 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2014 06:50 LeLoup wrote:On September 12 2014 06:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
No, brood and earth don't belong in CM.
LC does though, as does TB I think.
But want 6.82 anyway Just wait Phoenix is coming. Phoenix is unpickable, bring her on.
Just keep telling yourself that. It might make it true someday.
Your analysis of heroes rivals Rocketbear's
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I don't get how GD studio still functions all of last year they had dreamleague, ti qualifiers, and what? I can't think of things they actually do.
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I was completely unaware that James was dating jess until that house tour
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On September 12 2014 07:13 andyrau wrote:
I was completely unaware that James was dating jess until that house tour
Yeah, same here. I think most people didn't know until now.
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EPT
