• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:57
CEST 03:57
KST 10:57
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview0herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7
Community News
Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !18Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! $1,400 SEL Season 3 Ladder Invitational $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes
Brood War
General
Lights Ro.8 Review (asl s21) 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 vespene.gg — BW replays in browser BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Semifinals B [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne ZeroSpace Megathread War of Dots, 2026 minimalst RTS Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1262 users

General Discussion - Page 6090

Forum Index > Dota 2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6088 6089 6090 6091 6092 6534 Next
IRC chatter should remain in IRC - http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=tl.dota2

Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 07 2014 13:50 GMT
#121781
I wonder how much valve will charge you for their premium maps..
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
August 07 2014 13:56 GMT
#121782
On August 07 2014 22:39 Plansix wrote:
Oh, I forgot about Viper. I can rekt with him as well, but I think that is just the nature of the hero and everyone being dumbfounded by him in the trench.


razor is pretty good on trench level. Fight me? Free Dmg boys
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
Aixler
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands946 Posts
August 07 2014 14:18 GMT
#121783
will/should there be any monetization for custom maps?
Everyone will race to be the first to release popular maps as their own and claim all the money.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
August 07 2014 14:21 GMT
#121784
On August 07 2014 20:58 goody153 wrote:
Vampirism
Pimp my Peon
pudge wars
X hero siege
Fight of Characters
Marvel TD (can't wait to make x-mazes again) and many other TD

omg can't wait

This
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 07 2014 14:21 GMT
#121785
On August 07 2014 23:18 Aixler wrote:
will/should there be any monetization for custom maps?
Everyone will race to be the first to release popular maps as their own and claim all the money.

Should be will totally be based on "will folks pay for it". Personally, I would like to see people making money because it will lead to higher quality maps. But like the work shop items, I want some sort of system by Valve to make sure I am not wading through piles of trash.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
August 07 2014 14:23 GMT
#121786
http://www.douyutv.com/Xavier

This guy's making the League map in Dota
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-07 14:24:45
August 07 2014 14:23 GMT
#121787
I'm 90% sure valve will do a stamp system like they have with TF2, you can buy stamps for popular maps which gives the creators some money + gives you a special thing when you play on those maps.

Having people pay to play custom maps would be as un-valve as possible.

http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Map_Stamp
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 07 2014 14:33 GMT
#121788
It also runs into the problem that people like to try before they buy. I am sure they will work out a system that will support the creators. Maybe you need to "stamp" the map to use hero items in the map or something along those lines.

I demand some courier farming sim, where you raise and train couriers to work on the fields of Dota, and maybe battle. Or a game where people command armies of couriers. Beaver Knight vs Shagbark to the death.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
August 07 2014 14:42 GMT
#121789
What will happen if someone makes a LoL clone with all the champs and runes and shit for free and it's actually really good? People are saying the editor is really powerful so it might be possible. I wonder if Valve will allow the map makers to monetize it with whatever system they will choose to make. That seems like a really grey copyright area.
super gg
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 07 2014 14:43 GMT
#121790
On August 07 2014 23:42 cecek wrote:
What will happen if someone makes a LoL clone with all the champs and runes and shit for free and it's actually really good? People are saying the editor is really powerful so it might be possible. I wonder if Valve will allow the map makers to monetize it with whatever system they will choose to make. That seems like a really grey copyright area.

Not sure how its a grey copyright area.
ヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノDELETE ICEFROGヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
August 07 2014 14:46 GMT
#121791
On August 07 2014 23:43 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 23:42 cecek wrote:
What will happen if someone makes a LoL clone with all the champs and runes and shit for free and it's actually really good? People are saying the editor is really powerful so it might be possible. I wonder if Valve will allow the map makers to monetize it with whatever system they will choose to make. That seems like a really grey copyright area.

Not sure how its a grey copyright area.

It'll be a grey copyright area if someone makes a LoL clone.

Or like the Warcraft 3 campaign.
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-07 14:50:03
August 07 2014 14:49 GMT
#121792
Ok, so this is what happens. They go into Valve legal and they look over all the issues and research the whole custom map thing and make some guidelines. In that those guidelines there will be a section:

“Do people get to make money from copies of the League of Legends map? Answer: Are you fucking retarded? Do you like getting sued and receiving nasty cease and desist letters? Anyone making that is wasting their fucking time if they want to make money”

Or something like that. Seriously, that’s going to be a big nope, Valve is not crazy. Riot would turn that into not a gray area super quick.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
August 07 2014 14:53 GMT
#121793
Well if HoN can copypaste dota heroes, only changing names and graphics, so can LoL map guy, right? HoN is still going.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
August 07 2014 14:55 GMT
#121794
Buuuuuut how grey would it be if people changed the models and names, but kept the gameplay the same
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-07 14:56:52
August 07 2014 14:55 GMT
#121795
Does that mean that we wont get "Naruto vs Shippuden Angel Wars Arena reloaded version 5.666"? Because if not, then it's going to seriously destroy my WC3 maps nostalgia.

Also, what if nobody was making any money from the lol clone? Would Valve delete it from Steam workshop?
super gg
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-07 14:59:12
August 07 2014 14:58 GMT
#121796
You can port LoL models into dota pretty easily i think. I know you can port them into SFM easily, for example.

Also custom maps are essentially workshop stuff so valve probably wouldn't delete it just because nobody made any money, no. Plenty of games have workshops that are completely non-profit after all.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
August 07 2014 15:00 GMT
#121797
On August 07 2014 23:58 Unleashing wrote:
You can port LoL models into dota pretty easily i think. I know you can port them into SFM easily, for example.

Also custom maps are essentially workshop stuff so valve probably wouldn't delete it just because nobody made any money, no. Plenty of games have workshops that are completely non-profit after all.

Yes I recall somebody made a League meets Dota video in SFM, and got death threats for it :p
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 07 2014 15:01 GMT
#121798
On August 07 2014 23:55 cecek wrote:
Does that mean that we wont get "Naruto vs Shippuden Angel Wars Arena reloaded version 5.666"? Because if not, then it's going to seriously destroy my WC3 maps nostalgia.

Also, what if nobody was making any money from the lol clone? Would Valve delete it from Steam workshop?

If no one was making money from it, it would be ok. If a fuck ton of people started playing it, it might end up on Riots litigation radar.

And folks, remember that every answer in the legal field is "maybe?". I have a case today where we know my client is 100% right, but they are paying out a settlement because they don't want to pay the costs to go to court and be right(and the cost is more than the settlement, which is why the case exists in the first place). Its the nature of the beast.

No one knows how a court would rule on a copy of a free to play game using different models, but the same map and some similar game play. At the end of the day Valve will remove stuff based on "do we want to fight with the copyright holder about this?", rather than any legal logic.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 07 2014 15:04 GMT
#121799
On August 08 2014 00:01 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2014 23:55 cecek wrote:
Does that mean that we wont get "Naruto vs Shippuden Angel Wars Arena reloaded version 5.666"? Because if not, then it's going to seriously destroy my WC3 maps nostalgia.

Also, what if nobody was making any money from the lol clone? Would Valve delete it from Steam workshop?

If no one was making money from it, it would be ok. If a fuck ton of people started playing it, it might end up on Riots litigation radar.

And folks, remember that every answer in the legal field is "maybe?". I have a case today where we know my client is 100% right, but they are paying out a settlement because they don't want to pay the costs to go to court and be right(and the cost is more than the settlement, which is why the case exists in the first place). Its the nature of the beast.

No one knows how a court would rule on a copy of a free to play game using different models, but the same map and some similar game play. At the end of the day Valve will remove stuff based on "do we want to fight with the copyright holder about this?", rather than any legal logic.

Hence, Outworld Devourer.
ヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノDELETE ICEFROGヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-07 15:06:40
August 07 2014 15:06 GMT
#121800
Plenty of mods like in skyrim are filled with copyrighted stuff though.
We'll have to see.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Prev 1 6088 6089 6090 6091 6092 6534 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#82
PiGStarcraft784
EnkiAlexander 52
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft784
RuFF_SC2 113
Nina 71
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 5765
Artosis 667
NaDa 36
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1619
taco 599
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1314
ChuDatz18
Other Games
summit1g13393
Doublelift3290
Day[9].tv817
C9.Mang0478
ViBE160
Maynarde117
Trikslyr65
CosmosSc2 17
PattyMac7
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick825
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 86
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush557
Other Games
• Day9tv817
• Scarra468
Upcoming Events
GSL
7h 33m
Cure vs sOs
SHIN vs ByuN
Replay Cast
22h 3m
GSL
1d 7h
Classic vs Solar
GuMiho vs Zoun
WardiTV Spring Champion…
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs SHIN
Rogue vs Bunny
BSL
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Flash vs Soma
RSL Revival
4 days
BSL
4 days
Patches Events
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Universe Titan Cup
5 days
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-19
2026 GSL S1
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.