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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
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wairai
Malaysia1000 Posts
On August 07 2014 22:39 Plansix wrote: Oh, I forgot about Viper. I can rekt with him as well, but I think that is just the nature of the hero and everyone being dumbfounded by him in the trench. razor is pretty good on trench level. Fight me? Free Dmg boys | ||
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Aixler
Netherlands946 Posts
Everyone will race to be the first to release popular maps as their own and claim all the money. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On August 07 2014 20:58 goody153 wrote: Vampirism Pimp my Peon pudge wars X hero siege Fight of Characters Marvel TD (can't wait to make x-mazes again) and many other TD omg can't wait This | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 07 2014 23:18 Aixler wrote: will/should there be any monetization for custom maps? Everyone will race to be the first to release popular maps as their own and claim all the money. Should be will totally be based on "will folks pay for it". Personally, I would like to see people making money because it will lead to higher quality maps. But like the work shop items, I want some sort of system by Valve to make sure I am not wading through piles of trash. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
This guy's making the League map in Dota | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
Having people pay to play custom maps would be as un-valve as possible. http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Map_Stamp | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
I demand some courier farming sim, where you raise and train couriers to work on the fields of Dota, and maybe battle. Or a game where people command armies of couriers. Beaver Knight vs Shagbark to the death. | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On August 07 2014 23:42 cecek wrote: What will happen if someone makes a LoL clone with all the champs and runes and shit for free and it's actually really good? People are saying the editor is really powerful so it might be possible. I wonder if Valve will allow the map makers to monetize it with whatever system they will choose to make. That seems like a really grey copyright area. Not sure how its a grey copyright area. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
It'll be a grey copyright area if someone makes a LoL clone. Or like the Warcraft 3 campaign. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
“Do people get to make money from copies of the League of Legends map? Answer: Are you fucking retarded? Do you like getting sued and receiving nasty cease and desist letters? Anyone making that is wasting their fucking time if they want to make money” Or something like that. Seriously, that’s going to be a big nope, Valve is not crazy. Riot would turn that into not a gray area super quick. | ||
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beef42
Denmark1037 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Also, what if nobody was making any money from the lol clone? Would Valve delete it from Steam workshop? | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
Also custom maps are essentially workshop stuff so valve probably wouldn't delete it just because nobody made any money, no. Plenty of games have workshops that are completely non-profit after all. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
On August 07 2014 23:58 Unleashing wrote: You can port LoL models into dota pretty easily i think. I know you can port them into SFM easily, for example. Also custom maps are essentially workshop stuff so valve probably wouldn't delete it just because nobody made any money, no. Plenty of games have workshops that are completely non-profit after all. Yes I recall somebody made a League meets Dota video in SFM, and got death threats for it :p | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 07 2014 23:55 cecek wrote: Does that mean that we wont get "Naruto vs Shippuden Angel Wars Arena reloaded version 5.666"? Because if not, then it's going to seriously destroy my WC3 maps nostalgia. Also, what if nobody was making any money from the lol clone? Would Valve delete it from Steam workshop? If no one was making money from it, it would be ok. If a fuck ton of people started playing it, it might end up on Riots litigation radar. And folks, remember that every answer in the legal field is "maybe?". I have a case today where we know my client is 100% right, but they are paying out a settlement because they don't want to pay the costs to go to court and be right(and the cost is more than the settlement, which is why the case exists in the first place). Its the nature of the beast. No one knows how a court would rule on a copy of a free to play game using different models, but the same map and some similar game play. At the end of the day Valve will remove stuff based on "do we want to fight with the copyright holder about this?", rather than any legal logic. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On August 08 2014 00:01 Plansix wrote: If no one was making money from it, it would be ok. If a fuck ton of people started playing it, it might end up on Riots litigation radar. And folks, remember that every answer in the legal field is "maybe?". I have a case today where we know my client is 100% right, but they are paying out a settlement because they don't want to pay the costs to go to court and be right(and the cost is more than the settlement, which is why the case exists in the first place). Its the nature of the beast. No one knows how a court would rule on a copy of a free to play game using different models, but the same map and some similar game play. At the end of the day Valve will remove stuff based on "do we want to fight with the copyright holder about this?", rather than any legal logic. Hence, Outworld Devourer. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
We'll have to see. | ||
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