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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
On August 01 2014 21:41 Grettin wrote: Is it commercials only or does he have donation/balloon system there on Douyu? Nice payday regardless. What's a balloon system? | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On August 01 2014 23:35 Plansix wrote: From all my experience in Pubs is isn’t, but that’s what makes pro player magic. Also, I am pretty bad. It's totally doable. You just need a little team support. That's the tough part. The critical thing is your team allowing you to bottlecrow mid. Get that settled, and the rest is just practicing your farming. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Afreeca (korean twitch or w/e) basically runs off a donation system where you purchase and then give "balloons" to streamers. Where balloons have monetary value. It's built in to their system. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On August 02 2014 00:00 Acritter wrote: It's totally doable. You just need a little team support. That's the tough part. The critical thing is your team allowing you to bottlecrow mid. Get that settled, and the rest is just practicing your farming. i mean while bottlecrowing it's still your responsibility to try and control runes too (sometimes have to deny with illus), especially if the enemy mid is a ganker that can collect free kills on sidelanes with haste or invis. also your responsibility to grab wards supports are buying and let carry/offlane grab critical items. overall, naga radiance mid is a lot of work, but the good news is at lower mmr, you don't have to get radiance at 12 minutes to carry, just have to get it at a decent timing relative to your opponents' timings | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On August 02 2014 00:00 Acritter wrote: It's totally doable. You just need a little team support. That's the tough part. The critical thing is your team allowing you to bottlecrow mid. Get that settled, and the rest is just practicing your farming. Well what I like is that you can try for radiance, you can switch to treads -> drums -> diffusal fast | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 02 2014 00:02 Sn0_Man wrote: Afreeca (korean twitch or w/e) basically runs off a donation system where you purchase and then give "balloons" to streamers. Where balloons have monetary value. It's built in to their system. Its also the system where you get super weird streams like “give this kinda cute Korean girl who may or may not be famous money while she eats noodles and talks at the camera.” There are like a bunch of flavors of that as well. The internet is weird and streaming is weird when people aren’t playing digital sports and the like. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On August 02 2014 00:06 Torte de Lini wrote: Well what I like is that you can try for radiance, you can switch to treads -> drums -> diffusal fast sure that's always an option, but among fighter carries, treadsdrumsdiffusal naga isn't that great, so it's not often like a happy occurrence being forced to a fighting build, especially without "easy" followup skills for song (black hole, ravage, boat) which are still really hard to coordinate | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On August 02 2014 00:10 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: sure that's always an option, but among fighter carries, treadsdrumsdiffusal naga isn't that great, so it's not often like a happy occurrence being forced to a fighting build, especially without "easy" followup skills for song (black hole, ravage, boat) which are still really hard to coordinate I mean, it's not smooth, but it certainly feels like you saved a ton of time rather than still trying for Radiance and as the game drags on, it dissipates in importance. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On August 02 2014 00:11 Torte de Lini wrote: I mean, it's not smooth, but it certainly feels like you saved a ton of time rather than still trying for Radiance and as the game drags on, it dissipates in importance. the radiance build doesn't "dissipate" in importance, it either hits or misses a timing where you can farm to outscale everybody on the enemy team and simply win by throwing fat heart illusions at buildings. there's no possible way the drums/diffusal build can ever outfarm the radiance build, so it's more an admission that you can only stay a secondary core and you're relying on sharing farm with the other carries on the team to try and win the game. meanwhile, radiance naga often starves the other carries on your team in favor of hitting that 1v5 point. they have different purposes, and i don't really see a game where you're happy to transition from wanting a radiance to drums/diffusal. if you want to win by teamfighting, you should plan on drums/diffusal from the start, which brings me to my original point that maybe naga isn't the best fighter carry with that build (spec, pa, slark, meepo, etc are all better at fighting midgame) | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On August 02 2014 00:15 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: the radiance build doesn't "dissipate" in importance, it either hits or misses a timing where you can farm to outscale everybody on the enemy team and simply win by throwing fat heart illusions at buildings. there's no possible way the drums/diffusal build can ever outfarm the radiance build, so it's more an admission that you can only stay a secondary core and you're relying on sharing farm with the other carries on the team to try and win the game. meanwhile, radiance naga often starves the other carries on your team in favor of hitting that 1v5 point. they have different purposes, and i don't really see a game where you're happy to transition from wanting a radiance to drums/diffusal. if you want to win by teamfighting, you should plan on drums/diffusal from the start, which brings me to my original point that maybe naga isn't the best fighter carry with that build (spec, pa, slark, meepo, etc are all better at fighting midgame) Sorry to not clarify and forcing you to explain things. What I mean is, when you switch builds because you can see one isn't working out, that blip of changing builds has an effect on the outcome of the game, especially if it ends earlier than you wanted. As the game drags on, the switch of builds you made (radiance to drums -> diffusal) becomes less of an influence. | ||
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misirlou
Portugal3303 Posts
On August 01 2014 23:21 Plansix wrote: I always wonder when Icefrog will add more bans into the mix. I think there are enough heroes to warrant it at this point. I don't think drafting would be as good with more bans though. Giving one more first phase ban allows you to almost completely ban a specific strat, like baning 3 early pushers, 3 splitters, 3 fighters. Giving one to the last phase (making 2/2/2 bans) would make it so you can safely predict twice what your oponent want for the last pick and completely screw them over if you ban 2 options + pick a third leaving them with the less efficient 4th option or no option at all. The 2 heroes that are "must ban" in this meta (lycan and doom/panda) will surely be nerfed and all will be good again. As the game is you're already drafting more than 10% of the pool ((5bans+5picks) *2teams=10, out of almost 100 heroes in CM) | ||
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Slomo
Germany7198 Posts
Germany wai u suck so much in Internet related things? | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On August 02 2014 00:33 Slomo wrote: Fuck my fucking ISP. No Internet since noon on a Friday. Most likely wont get fixed over the Weekend. Germany wai u suck so much in Internet related things? You will find no sympathy among us Americans. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On August 02 2014 00:19 Torte de Lini wrote: Sorry to not clarify and forcing you to explain things. What I mean is, when you switch builds because you can see one isn't working out, that blip of changing builds has an effect on the outcome of the game, especially if it ends earlier than you wanted. As the game drags on, the switch of builds you made (radiance to drums -> diffusal) becomes less of an influence. I have to completely disagree with your point there. Radiance on Naga is far, far more than just a farming item. It is, at its core, a pushing item. With a Radiance, Naga can keep all three lanes pushed. It's so strong that I would even consider going back to FINISH a 30+ minute Radiance just for that insane map presence. Even more, the ability of Naga to control the map in this manner does not diminish as the game progresses. If anything, it increases, as her illusions get more and more difficult to kill, and hold a greater and greater sway over the creep waves. Radiance Naga and non-Radiance Naga simply don't even play the same way. | ||
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
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Slomo
Germany7198 Posts
On August 02 2014 00:37 Comeh wrote: You will find no sympathy among us Americans. You bet. Took them over six Months (from August last year till the end of March) to set up a connection. Slow enough that I cant even watch Twitch reliably but its the best they have and I cant switch to another ISP because they would need even more than months to set a connection up. Germany might be good at engineering stuffbut the Internet is too big of a mystery for our politicians. Thats why our whole internet infrastructure is still in the hands of one huge incorprate company. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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