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Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 04:32:36
June 02 2012 04:32 GMT
#12081
No Western Europeans except CLG invited for the international. Thats harsh :D
CustomKal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada749 Posts
June 02 2012 04:50 GMT
#12082
Yay just destroyed EG.Demon while he was streaming with pudge!
kaifragrance
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada50 Posts
June 02 2012 04:59 GMT
#12083
On June 02 2012 13:50 CustomKal wrote:
Yay just destroyed EG.Demon while he was streaming with pudge!

Sick pudge, bro. I saw that!
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
June 02 2012 07:43 GMT
#12084
On June 02 2012 13:04 NB wrote:
looking into the eastern qualifier:
Tier 1: MithTrust AEON Tongfu
Tier 2: Mineski WE Duskbin
Tier 3: the rest

Thoughts: MithTrust is a familiar name here. They had pretty decent result in the last international and remain one of the strongest team in the eastern scene atm. If icefrog didnt invite iG/LGD for marketing reason, MiTHtrust definitely would get an invite spot instead of having play through qualifier. 1-0 AL in one of their latest game, the team should have the highest seed among all in this tourney. This also applied to AEON as well, being overshadow by Zenith and Orange, their wins over DK and AL a week ago simply proves that Sing-Malay is still one of the best source of quality dota player in the world. Much to expect from this legend team tag. Tongfu isnt a big name in the current dota2 scene but they are a force to be reckon with in the dota1 chinese scene. Given this chance to grab 1 million dollars, who know how much they would invest into practicing for this. The rest of the teams including WE and a bunch of Pinoy dota represent has not shown much result in dota2 yet. There are still hope and a giant fan base behind each team but the chance are slim.

my pick who will win: MithTrust

Western:
Tier1: Mouz mTw
Tier2: Next.Kz VP Quantic
Tier3: the rest

Thought on western: Even though im deviding teams out of tiers, they are all pretty close in term of skill level. Top spot for Mouz and mTw simply bc of their recent success vs seeded TI2 teams. Mouz and Keita are quite even in term of skill level but notice how mouz line up just recently went through some SICK changes and they still manage to pull off such result. They also will be playing this qualifier in a LAN environment (they have a boot camp on 6th) so ranking top should not be questioned. mTw also has some SICK win recently and their line up seems stronger than ever. Notice how Synderen has stopped his streaming for the past month in order to hide their strats. The only weakness they are currently have is their play style is quite aggressive with focus on some strong solo mid control heroes such as QoP, Invoker or NS. This will give them a hard time going against some good turtle farmer chinese style (which is seen in teams like NextKZ). NextKZ, quantic and VP are all quite unstable in their game atm. Out of the 3 teams i would rank Quantic the highest but since they are an US based team, sever will be the deciding factor.

Predict who will win: mTw or Keita, quite a tough choice but i will go with mTw for the most part.

trust is really no better than duskbin. tongfu is probably in tier 0. they almost (almost) knocked zenith into the losers bracket in GDM
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
duckmaster
Profile Joined August 2011
687 Posts
June 02 2012 07:55 GMT
#12085
Not too hyped for the international... The chinese teams still seem to have so much money to make in DotA1 that they probably will have to keep splitting their practice time between the two games.

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/news/19653-the-association-of-china-esports-professional-dota-league-rings-off-in-beijing
http://gosugamers.net/dota/news/19681-sitv-s-televised-esports-league-g-league-2012-begins-with-an-all-new-first-season
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 02 2012 08:13 GMT
#12086
I think its an insult to put Quantic at the same level as VP in the upcoming qual

Quantic and mTw are probably the Tier 1, with next.kz and mouz tier 2, VP is tier 3, with the rest at tier 4. VP hasn't shown shit since they got this new lineup, except loss after loss.
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
June 02 2012 09:54 GMT
#12087
On June 02 2012 17:13 Zlasher wrote:
I think its an insult to put Quantic at the same level as VP in the upcoming qual

Quantic and mTw are probably the Tier 1, with next.kz and mouz tier 2, VP is tier 3, with the rest at tier 4. VP hasn't shown shit since they got this new lineup, except loss after loss.


No way in hell mouz is T1 thats the singsing bias NB!!!!
High Risk Low Reward
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 10:13:52
June 02 2012 10:13 GMT
#12088
Right that Dota 2 bundle you can buy for £24.99 is that something you can buy gift to a friend and then they have access to the beta or it gives you early access to when the game actually comes out?

Also love that MUFC are going not such a huge fan of M5 though, but they are pretty good on LAN I guess.

Heres to hoping mTw and Mouz get through the Quals.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
June 02 2012 10:27 GMT
#12089
On June 02 2012 19:13 Benjef wrote:
Right that Dota 2 bundle you can buy for £24.99 is that something you can buy gift to a friend and then they have access to the beta or it gives you early access to when the game actually comes out?
.


If you buy this you get the cosmetic for yourself and a beta key that you can give to a friend
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 12:06:01
June 02 2012 12:02 GMT
#12090
Just lost a game where we had megacreeps because our Tidehunter bought a rapier.

Fun game too, we were completely raping them at every turn for a good while, with twice their kills most of the game. I somehow got the most kills on my team as Dazzle while buying wards and mek, so I transitioned into buying a dazzleator and a medallion and that shit kinda hurts with Slardar's amplify, gush, weavers beetles and my ult. In retrospect holy fuck we had a lot of -armor abilities when most even randomed.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
Cocacooh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1510 Posts
June 02 2012 12:34 GMT
#12091
anyone else stuck at "connecting to dota 2 network"?
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
June 02 2012 12:38 GMT
#12092
--- Nuked ---
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
June 02 2012 13:05 GMT
#12093
As i said, it is pretty damn clutch on the western scene. Teams are on par with each other and the differences are little to none. The list is mostly based on recent result. The part about Quantic playing is that they will have to play at a different time zone/sever compare to European teams so they are at a huge disadvantage. If the format is bo3 double elimination, the amount of game needed to be played until the end will be incredible and sever/time slot will basicly bleed you to death. Since the skill level between teams are close, these could be good resources to exploit. In contrast to everything about Quantic, Mouz and mTw are most likely moving this weekend for there boot camp pre-dreamhack. The qualifier will be played while they are in the same room, with better communication, better environment.

But yeah, western scene gona be a crazy crazy run... its like the TLOpens which is used to qualify for TSL.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
June 02 2012 14:25 GMT
#12094
western qualifiers:
Tier 1: mTw
Tier 2: mouz, quantic, keita, infused, NEXT.Kz
Tier 3: VP, znation

hoping for mouz vs mTw / mouz vs Quantic for grand final!
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
June 02 2012 14:46 GMT
#12095
its an interesting approach to the match of Infused vs mTw today... i swear mTw intentionally losing this to hide their strat... Tide last pick? yeah right!
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
June 02 2012 14:46 GMT
#12096
Rumor has it that the Chinese commentating lineup for the international will be 820 + 2009 + some1 else
~Ze
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
June 02 2012 14:55 GMT
#12097
On June 02 2012 23:46 NB wrote:
its an interesting approach to the match of Infused vs mTw today... i swear mTw intentionally losing this to hide their strat... Tide last pick? yeah right!


fanboyism detected :D
hollabackk
Profile Joined December 2010
118 Posts
June 02 2012 15:43 GMT
#12098
Why is is that so many chinese players alias are just numbers?
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 16:01:50
June 02 2012 15:59 GMT
#12099
On June 02 2012 23:55 cilinder007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 23:46 NB wrote:
its an interesting approach to the match of Infused vs mTw today... i swear mTw intentionally losing this to hide their strat... Tide last pick? yeah right!


fanboyism detected :D

no, if anything i have to say they performed extremely poor. As i said in my prediction post, their play style is well known and could be easily countered by a turtle farm carry style of play (which infused did with Lina Invoker - AM). There were a lot that could have been done better but running Synderen Tide is just not like what they ever did in the past.


On June 03 2012 00:43 hollabackk wrote:
Why is is that so many chinese players alias are just numbers?


It pronounced similar to a lot of words and has different meaning in chinese. Their most popular IM network (QQ) also use number instead of names.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 02 2012 16:16 GMT
#12100
I think VP will lose in the first round, they have terrible results lately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
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