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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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thOr6136
Slovenia1775 Posts
On June 20 2014 01:08 Plansix wrote: And talking about terrible anime. And terrible YouTube videos. IRCs uses are many, but they are all terrible. is this war? | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On June 20 2014 01:08 Plansix wrote: And talking about terrible anime. And terrible YouTube videos. IRCs uses are many, but they are all terrible. i resent this | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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OceanLab
France505 Posts
On June 20 2014 00:27 TheYango wrote: Bane also has the advantage of having a grand total of like two heroes he actually loses lanes too--one of those being a hero that nobody plays anyway. Out of curiosity, which heroes are you talking about? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
You admited that some of them were terrible. It's ok to like terrible things. Like the Constantine movie. It's so bad, but so good. | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
On June 20 2014 00:27 TheYango wrote: Bane also has the advantage of having a grand total of like two heroes he actually loses lanes too--one of those being a hero that nobody plays anyway. I thought there was more. I know he flat out loses to Brood and against Skywrath he is going to have a hard time. Phoenix also probably destroys him just on pushing power alone. Maybe Enchantress could as well. Hard to say on that one though IMO. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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DrPandaPhD
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On June 20 2014 00:27 TheYango wrote: Bane also has the advantage of having a grand total of like two heroes he actually loses lanes too--one of those being a hero that nobody plays anyway. He definitely loses to Meepo, Lone Druid, probably vs Brood and Visage. And I can see some other heroes he would struggle with. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4558 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Like, Meepo has to poof to cs at least until level 3, even after that u can probably keep out-csing him, and ur nuke bypasses meepo's magic resist completely. Sure one meepo can cancel ur ult on the other so that part is questionable but I feel like you should get a biiiig advantage early. Visage can't possibly beat bane... can't cs, gets to 6 after bane, and just dies. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 20 2014 01:39 DrPandaPhD wrote: He definitely loses to Meepo, Lone Druid, probably vs Brood and Visage. And I can see some other heroes he would struggle with. I was exaggerating somewhat when I said 2 heroes. There are a lot of specific counterpicks to Bane (Enigma is one that I've seen in tournament 1v1), but you can't blindly pick most of those heroes in this format because they have bad matchups too. | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
Brood is the same way. Spawn Spiderlings for CS, Build an army at 3. Don't stop pushing till you win. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 20 2014 01:57 LeLoup wrote: In all honesty he can't do anything to push and he has no kill potential till 6 so you're guaranteed to get levels as long as you have regen. That's pretty much exactly how Meepo beats him. Poof for CS, get XP, crush lane post 3. Brood is the same way. Spawn Spiderlings for CS, Build an army at 3. Don't stop pushing till you win. Brood doesn't die when you kill her Spiderlings. The off-Meepo can almost be 100-0ed at 7 even if you have to use Sleep to stop the main Meepo from breaking your channel. You have to play very carefully to not die, and it's not nearly as simple as pushing mindlessly. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On June 20 2014 02:04 TheYango wrote: Brood doesn't die when you kill her Spiderlings. The off-Meepo can almost be 100-0ed at 7 even if you have to use Sleep to stop the main Meepo from breaking your channel. You have to play very carefully to not die, and it's not nearly as simple as pushing mindlessly. Haven't really tried the matchup, but I feel like LD could do okay, and if he hits 6 at the same time, he can't really die to bane. Trying to play the matchup in my head, maybe bane has a few tricks that could make it tricky for LD. | ||
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DrPandaPhD
5188 Posts
On June 20 2014 01:43 Sn0_Man wrote: how badly does he lose to meepo? Like, Meepo has to poof to cs at least until level 3, even after that u can probably keep out-csing him, and ur nuke bypasses meepo's magic resist completely. Sure one meepo can cancel ur ult on the other so that part is questionable but I feel like you should get a biiiig advantage early. Visage can't possibly beat bane... can't cs, gets to 6 after bane, and just dies. Visage has a lot of magic resistance, he doesn't die to a single combo by bane.. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Okay his ult is magic but lets be real visage gets an extra 12% at best. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
There's a lot of stupid shit certain heroes can do in this format because bottle-crow and Soul Ring are allowed. On June 20 2014 02:07 DrPandaPhD wrote: Visage has a lot of magic resistance, he doesn't die to a single combo by bane.. He also has zero armor at level 1 while Bane has 4 AND more damage, meaning that Bane just plays like an asshole from level 1 to deny you CS then abuses Soul Ring + Brain Sap after level 3 because this format allows Soul Ring. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
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