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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 21:57:47
June 11 2014 21:55 GMT
#113321
I don't think it got worse overall, but I do think the worst ones are in the recent generations, like a snowcone and a giant keychain. From Gen 1 people mention stuff like Muk being just a bunch a slime, but slime is a classic enemy in any RPG, it just doesn't feel odd to me. For Jynx I'm a bit torn between terrible and hilariously racist.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 22:01:04
June 11 2014 21:58 GMT
#113322
On June 12 2014 06:48 Jaaaaasper wrote:
I mean really bulbasuar is a dog with a parasitic plant living on its back. Squirtle is just a turtle. Charmander is a bipedal newt. Whats cool about any of that? Its not very hard to make any gens pokemon look bad, because its a video game and thus subjective tastes.

idk i felt their design was more grounded
i mean compare your first gen descriptions with the new ones
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one's a blue frog with a bunny tail with odd proportions, another is a fennec fox with random tuffs of fur everywhere, and I have no fucking clue what the plant type is supposed to be
gen 5 was even worse

On June 12 2014 06:50 Unleashing wrote:
Then you should like gen 2 too since most of the mons in gen 2 were designed alongside gen 1 and could've easily made an appearance in gen 1

Also honestly, the design formula hasn't changed much(Although there is definitely changes from gen to gen so you can definitely have gen preferences) so i'd say yes it's notalgia goggles if you think it's because the new designs are dumb

Gen 5 gave us trash-pokémon(As in actual trash not bad design) while gen 1 gave us sludge-pokémon.
Gen 5 gave us a pokémon that was just gears while gen 1 gave us pokémon that were just magnets.
Etc. They really aren't that different.

I was ok with the gen2 as well, for some reason I think I grew out of pokemon by the time it came out
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 21:59:24
June 11 2014 21:58 GMT
#113323
On June 12 2014 05:56 Steveling wrote:
Am I the only one finding these games boring?
All dem pokemon/ff games.

I am also bored by these games for the most part. both franchises lost my interest ages ago.
some of the ffs were good and pokemon was more fun when i was 8
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 11 2014 21:59 GMT
#113324
On June 12 2014 06:58 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:56 Steveling wrote:
Am I the only one finding these games boring?
All dem pokemon/ff games.

I am also bored by these games for the most part. both franchises lost my interest ages ago.
some of the ffs were good and pokemon was fun because i was 8 once.

you were 8 once? OMG! Me too! Neat.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 22:04:08
June 11 2014 22:01 GMT
#113325
On June 12 2014 06:58 andyrau wrote:
one's a blue frog with a bunny tail with odd proportions, another is a fennec fox with random tuffs of fur everywhere, and I have no fucking clue what the plant type is supposed to be

Bunny tail? Those are bubbles. It's a blue frog with bubbles around its neck based on the Grey foam-nest tree frog.
Random tuffs of fur? They're meant to give it a fire-ish look which they achieved, and it's also utilized in later evolutions.
And the plant type is a hedgehog with a chestnut design going for it.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 11 2014 22:01 GMT
#113326
On June 12 2014 06:59 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 06:58 PassiveAce wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:56 Steveling wrote:
Am I the only one finding these games boring?
All dem pokemon/ff games.

I am also bored by these games for the most part. both franchises lost my interest ages ago.
some of the ffs were good and pokemon was fun because i was 8 once.

you were 8 once? OMG! Me too! Neat.
please we all know everyone on the internet is born aged 13 and every year turn 13
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
June 11 2014 22:04 GMT
#113327
All born January 1 ofc
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 11 2014 22:06 GMT
#113328
January 1st 1980

The date files default to if the creation date gets somehow corrupted
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 11 2014 22:07 GMT
#113329
On June 12 2014 07:01 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 06:58 andyrau wrote:
one's a blue frog with a bunny tail with odd proportions, another is a fennec fox with random tuffs of fur everywhere, and I have no fucking clue what the plant type is supposed to be

Bunny tail? Those are bubbles. It's a blue frog with bubbles around its neck based on the Grey foam-nest tree frog.
Random tuffs of fur? They're meant to give it a fire-ish look which they achieved, and it's also utilized in later evolutions.
And the plant type is a hedgehog with a chestnut design going for it.

alright, my interpretations are pretty off then
I'm still not convinced that the new generation's designs aren't significant downgrades from the originals

eg, charmander's obviously a dinosaur with a firey tail
new gen firetype looks like something from a furry fetish, idk how fur can be translated to a 'fire-ish look' but whatever I guess

and the plant type is just.. l o l
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 22:14:52
June 11 2014 22:12 GMT
#113330
On June 12 2014 06:12 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 06:09 Drazerk wrote:
On June 12 2014 06:08 Plansix wrote:
On June 12 2014 06:02 Drazerk wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:59 Plansix wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:54 SKC wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:53 Plansix wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:47 SKC wrote:
It's not like you weren't fighting to stop the end of the world before FF8... In 6 you even failed to do so, which was interesting.

That's not a series going to weird places, that's a series not going to weird places, and you getting tired of it because of it.

Did you play FF13? Cause that game is a hot pile of weird nonsense. It's so dumb and Japanese in the worst ways possible. And the combat is super weird and passively it kinda hurts.

And them there is Persona 4, the superior JRPG, with better combat and systems, likable characters and Japanese in all the right ways.

No, but when you say it only got worse after 7, you are not talking about only 13. I said in my post 9 and 10 were top contenders for best FF, nothing about 13.

I like 9 and 10 in a way, but they started stronger than they ended. 9 had the whole monkey tail thing leading to the end of the world and 10 was some dream non sense and you not being real.

So yeah, they were fucking weird.


Still beats amnesia (Looking at you FF7 / FF8)

You mean the "quick, the hero is a bad ass, but we need an excuse to have a tutorial and a reason why he doesn't just beat up everyone from the start" excuse used in every game.

Such a story writing crutch for video games.


No I'm talking about Zack Fair / the whole orphanage business which was pretty dumb

(Ok I actually love Zack in Crisis Core I just didn't like his existence in FF7 because it subtracted my love for cloud)

Well, Zack being a good character doesn't really changes Cloud's multiple personality disorder, but I don't know anything about Crisis Core, so Zack does mean much to me. And there's also the Sephiroth mommy issues...

FFT had the best plot in the system. Or at least the one that wasn't fucking weird.


FFT also had the best combination of fantasy/futuristic elements imo (though almost every FF has a variant of it). Still, FF8 holds a special place in my heart despite the weird junction system.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 11 2014 22:17 GMT
#113331
On June 12 2014 07:07 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 07:01 Unleashing wrote:
On June 12 2014 06:58 andyrau wrote:
one's a blue frog with a bunny tail with odd proportions, another is a fennec fox with random tuffs of fur everywhere, and I have no fucking clue what the plant type is supposed to be

Bunny tail? Those are bubbles. It's a blue frog with bubbles around its neck based on the Grey foam-nest tree frog.
Random tuffs of fur? They're meant to give it a fire-ish look which they achieved, and it's also utilized in later evolutions.
And the plant type is a hedgehog with a chestnut design going for it.

alright, my interpretations are pretty off then
I'm still not convinced that the new generation's designs aren't significant downgrades from the originals

eg, charmander's obviously a dinosaur with a firey tail
new gen firetype looks like something from a furry fetish, idk how fur can be translated to a 'fire-ish look' but whatever I guess

and the plant type is just.. l o l


All the grass type starters are based of different dinosaurs. Chespin is based on the first mammal so it fits perfectly design wise.

All the fire type starters are based on the Chinese zodiac. Once again it fits perfectly

Not actually sure what water starters are based on.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 11 2014 22:28 GMT
#113332
On June 12 2014 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 07:07 andyrau wrote:
On June 12 2014 07:01 Unleashing wrote:
On June 12 2014 06:58 andyrau wrote:
one's a blue frog with a bunny tail with odd proportions, another is a fennec fox with random tuffs of fur everywhere, and I have no fucking clue what the plant type is supposed to be

Bunny tail? Those are bubbles. It's a blue frog with bubbles around its neck based on the Grey foam-nest tree frog.
Random tuffs of fur? They're meant to give it a fire-ish look which they achieved, and it's also utilized in later evolutions.
And the plant type is a hedgehog with a chestnut design going for it.

alright, my interpretations are pretty off then
I'm still not convinced that the new generation's designs aren't significant downgrades from the originals

eg, charmander's obviously a dinosaur with a firey tail
new gen firetype looks like something from a furry fetish, idk how fur can be translated to a 'fire-ish look' but whatever I guess

and the plant type is just.. l o l


All the grass type starters are based of different dinosaurs. Chespin is based on the first mammal so it fits perfectly design wise.

All the fire type starters are based on the Chinese zodiac. Once again it fits perfectly

Not actually sure what water starters are based on.

lmao
you need to remind me where lizards fit into the chinese zodiac. I guess you could say charizard's a dragon? that's quite the stretch tho

also cyndaquil is a beaver-porcupine-hedgehog hybrid thing and last I checked the zodiac didn't have any of those either
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 11 2014 22:35 GMT
#113333
On June 12 2014 07:28 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
On June 12 2014 07:07 andyrau wrote:
On June 12 2014 07:01 Unleashing wrote:
On June 12 2014 06:58 andyrau wrote:
one's a blue frog with a bunny tail with odd proportions, another is a fennec fox with random tuffs of fur everywhere, and I have no fucking clue what the plant type is supposed to be

Bunny tail? Those are bubbles. It's a blue frog with bubbles around its neck based on the Grey foam-nest tree frog.
Random tuffs of fur? They're meant to give it a fire-ish look which they achieved, and it's also utilized in later evolutions.
And the plant type is a hedgehog with a chestnut design going for it.

alright, my interpretations are pretty off then
I'm still not convinced that the new generation's designs aren't significant downgrades from the originals

eg, charmander's obviously a dinosaur with a firey tail
new gen firetype looks like something from a furry fetish, idk how fur can be translated to a 'fire-ish look' but whatever I guess

and the plant type is just.. l o l


All the grass type starters are based of different dinosaurs. Chespin is based on the first mammal so it fits perfectly design wise.

All the fire type starters are based on the Chinese zodiac. Once again it fits perfectly

Not actually sure what water starters are based on.

lmao
you need to remind me where lizards fit into the chinese zodiac. I guess you could say charizard's a dragon? that's quite the stretch tho

also cyndaquil is a beaver-porcupine-hedgehog hybrid thing and last I checked the zodiac didn't have any of those either


Charizard is a dragon type now so yeah it does fit (Plus being owned by Lance a dragon type trainer). Also its been part of the dragon egg group since gen 2. Once again its a dragon. Everything in the games/manga/anime point to charizard being a dragon so I'm not sure how you can possibly think its a stretch.

Cyndaquil fits the rat IIRC
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 11 2014 22:35 GMT
#113334
On June 12 2014 07:01 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 06:59 crms wrote:
On June 12 2014 06:58 PassiveAce wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:56 Steveling wrote:
Am I the only one finding these games boring?
All dem pokemon/ff games.

I am also bored by these games for the most part. both franchises lost my interest ages ago.
some of the ffs were good and pokemon was fun because i was 8 once.

you were 8 once? OMG! Me too! Neat.
please we all know everyone on the internet is born aged 13 and every year turn 13

i thought everyone was 18
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 11 2014 22:37 GMT
#113335
On June 12 2014 07:35 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 07:01 Drazerk wrote:
On June 12 2014 06:59 crms wrote:
On June 12 2014 06:58 PassiveAce wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:56 Steveling wrote:
Am I the only one finding these games boring?
All dem pokemon/ff games.

I am also bored by these games for the most part. both franchises lost my interest ages ago.
some of the ffs were good and pokemon was fun because i was 8 once.

you were 8 once? OMG! Me too! Neat.
please we all know everyone on the internet is born aged 13 and every year turn 13

i thought everyone was 18

Its like terms and conditions. No one actually pays attention to age limits
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 22:48:40
June 11 2014 22:46 GMT
#113336
On June 12 2014 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
Not actually sure what water starters are based on.

Water starters are all semi-aquatic animals.

On June 12 2014 07:35 Drazerk wrote:
Charizard is a dragon type now so yeah it does fit (Plus being owned by Lance a dragon type trainer). Also its been part of the dragon egg group since gen 2. Once again its a dragon. Everything in the games/manga/anime point to charizard being a dragon so I'm not sure how you can possibly think its a stretch.

Cyndaquil fits the rat IIRC

Gen 6 actually breaks the Chinese Zodiac rule because the Fox isn't on the Chinese Zodiac.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 11 2014 22:49 GMT
#113337
On June 12 2014 07:46 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
Not actually sure what water starters are based on.

Water starters are all semi-aquatic animals.

Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 07:35 Drazerk wrote:
Charizard is a dragon type now so yeah it does fit (Plus being owned by Lance a dragon type trainer). Also its been part of the dragon egg group since gen 2. Once again its a dragon. Everything in the games/manga/anime point to charizard being a dragon so I'm not sure how you can possibly think its a stretch.

Cyndaquil fits the rat IIRC

Gen 6 actually breaks the Chinese Zodiac rule because the Fox isn't on the Chinese Zodiac.

I thought fox was
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 11 2014 22:54 GMT
#113338
Snivy is also more like a snake than a dinosaur
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 11 2014 22:54 GMT
#113339
All right, for people who care about No Man's Sky, the Giant Bomb after hours show had them on to talk about the game and a bunch of other stuff. Plus all the people at Giant Bomb are hilarious.

http://v.giantbomb.com/podcast/E3_2014_Day_1-06-11-2014-5347121814.mp3

Video: http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/giant-bomb-live-e3-2014-day-1/2300-9056/
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
June 12 2014 00:15 GMT
#113340
Am I the only person who has never played a pokemon game? O.o
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