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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 11 2014 20:36 GMT
#113281
gen IV was fun competitively but i disliked the game itself, definitely my least liked gen for story/map/a lot of the designs

1(Definitely nostalgia)>2=6>3>5>4
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 11 2014 20:37 GMT
#113282
On June 12 2014 05:36 Unleashing wrote:
gen IV was fun competitively but i disliked the game itself, definitely my least liked gen for story/map/a lot of the designs

1(Definitely nostalgia)>2=6>3>5>4

Just ignore the existence of Diamond / Pearl / Platinum

Heart gold all the way
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
June 11 2014 20:37 GMT
#113283
Anyone want to give the gens names for us plebs that can't remember?
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 11 2014 20:37 GMT
#113284
Oh yeah if we include remakes like HG/SS it would definitely change my rankings and move up gen 4.
HG was my game of choice and i loved it.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 20:39:04
June 11 2014 20:38 GMT
#113285
Red/Blue
Gold/Silver
Saphire/Ruby
Diamond/Perl
Black/White
X/Y

Ignoring the 3rd games and remakes
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 11 2014 20:39 GMT
#113286
On June 12 2014 05:37 Zealos wrote:
Anyone want to give the gens names for us plebs that can't remember?

Gen 1 = Red, blue(green), yellow
Gen 2 = Gold, silver, crystal
Gen 3 = Ruby, sapphire, emerald, fire red, leaf green
Gen 4 = Diamond, pearl, platinum, heart gold, soul silver
Gen 5 = Black, White, Black2, White2
Gen 6 = X, Y, Alpha sapphire, omega ruby
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 11 2014 20:39 GMT
#113287
Let's face it, after FF7, the whole FF series has started to go really weird places and it's only gotten worse since 13. They clearly dumped a fuck ton of money into that hot mess, so much so that they needed to create two other hot mess games just to make up for it.

FF15 might be cool, but I sort of expect it to be just as far up its own ass as the last few and with more combat mini skirts.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 20:41:48
June 11 2014 20:40 GMT
#113288
On June 12 2014 05:39 Plansix wrote:
Let's face it, after FF7, the whole FF series has started to go really weird places and it's only gotten worse since 13. They clearly dumped a fuck ton of money into that hot mess, so much so that they needed to create two other hot mess games just to make up for it.

FF15 might be cool, but I sort of expect it to be just as far up its own ass as the last few and with more combat mini skirts.

FF9 and even FF10 and often considered as good as or better than 7. Some people even like 8, for some reason. Only 12 and 13 that don't really get much love at all.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 11 2014 20:42 GMT
#113289
How has gen 6 competitive changed btw? I haven't played in a few months, back then Rotom-W and Talonflame were king.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 11 2014 20:43 GMT
#113290
On June 12 2014 05:40 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:39 Plansix wrote:
Let's face it, after FF7, the whole FF series has started to go really weird places and it's only gotten worse since 13. They clearly dumped a fuck ton of money into that hot mess, so much so that they needed to create two other hot mess games just to make up for it.

FF15 might be cool, but I sort of expect it to be just as far up its own ass as the last few and with more combat mini skirts.

FF9 and even FF10 and often considered as good as or better than 7. Some people even like 8, for some reason. Only 12 and 13 that don't really get much love at all.


Never played 7, but 9 doesn't stand out for me whatsoever and 10 is my top 3 in Final Fantasy (I like FF4 -- The one with Cecil).

12 fucking blows and should burn
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 11 2014 20:45 GMT
#113291
Really I just get tired of fighting to stop the end of the world. Give me a story like persona 4, where you are just stopping a murderer. It doesn't need to be the end of the world every time, we could just stop a war or save a group of people.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 11 2014 20:46 GMT
#113292
On June 12 2014 05:40 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:39 Plansix wrote:
Let's face it, after FF7, the whole FF series has started to go really weird places and it's only gotten worse since 13. They clearly dumped a fuck ton of money into that hot mess, so much so that they needed to create two other hot mess games just to make up for it.

FF15 might be cool, but I sort of expect it to be just as far up its own ass as the last few and with more combat mini skirts.

FF9 and even FF10 and often considered as good as or better than 7. Some people even like 8, for some reason. Only 12 and 13 that don't really get much love at all.


FF9 is king as far as a Final Fantasy game actually having combat goes. I'm talking optimized combat here since FF9 actually requires you to think about stuff as opposed to spamming the same 1-2 spells over and over again. Admittedly people can make a case for Charge! but it promotes a very high risk high reward game play which I personally enjoy in video games so I let it slide (plus its really only good on the final boss gauntlet)

Plus the story is actually decent as well (Vivi's death )
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
June 11 2014 20:46 GMT
#113293
actually i think thats a big problem with JRPGs in recent times, its always deciding the fate of the world or of humanity, in a super esoteric context..

don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 20:50:12
June 11 2014 20:47 GMT
#113294
It's not like you weren't fighting to stop the end of the world before FF8... In 6 you even failed to do so, which was interesting.

That's not a series going to weird places, that's a series not going to weird places, and you getting tired of it because of it.

That's a big reason why people love 7. Not because it is better, but because it came before them.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
June 11 2014 20:47 GMT
#113295
On June 12 2014 05:39 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:37 Zealos wrote:
Anyone want to give the gens names for us plebs that can't remember?

Gen 1 = Red, blue(green), yellow
Gen 2 = Gold, silver, crystal
Gen 3 = Ruby, sapphire, emerald, fire red, leaf green
Gen 4 = Diamond, pearl, platinum, heart gold, soul silver
Gen 5 = Black, White, Black2, White2
Gen 6 = X, Y, Alpha sapphire, omega ruby



1>4(HG and SS)>6>3 for me
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 11 2014 20:51 GMT
#113296
On June 12 2014 05:47 SKC wrote:
It's not like you weren't fighting to stop the end of the world before FF8... In 6 you even failed to do so, which was interesting.

That's not a series going to weird places, that's a series not going to weird places, and you getting tired of it because of it.


You fail in FFV as well IIRC
You also fail to save Terra in FF9
Cocoon explodes in FF13-2

Hell most of the games feature a planet dying if you think about it
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
June 11 2014 20:51 GMT
#113297
On June 12 2014 05:46 Shaella wrote:
actually i think thats a big problem with JRPGs in recent times, its always deciding the fate of the world or of humanity, in a super esoteric context..


And a lot of animes as well.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 11 2014 20:52 GMT
#113298
On June 12 2014 05:51 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:47 SKC wrote:
It's not like you weren't fighting to stop the end of the world before FF8... In 6 you even failed to do so, which was interesting.

That's not a series going to weird places, that's a series not going to weird places, and you getting tired of it because of it.


You fail in FFV as well IIRC
You also fail to save Terra in FF9
Cocoon explodes in FF13-2

Hell most of the games feature a planet dying if you think about it

It's more about the way you continue the game after the apocalypse, in the same world. Kinda like Chrono's death, even though protagonists dieing in the end of the game aren't something new.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 11 2014 20:53 GMT
#113299
On June 12 2014 05:47 SKC wrote:
It's not like you weren't fighting to stop the end of the world before FF8... In 6 you even failed to do so, which was interesting.

That's not a series going to weird places, that's a series not going to weird places, and you getting tired of it because of it.

Did you play FF13? Cause that game is a hot pile of weird nonsense. It's so dumb and Japanese in the worst ways possible. And the combat is super weird and passively it kinda hurts.

And them there is Persona 4, the superior JRPG, with better combat and systems, likable characters and Japanese in all the right ways.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
June 11 2014 20:53 GMT
#113300
On June 12 2014 05:46 Shaella wrote:
actually i think thats a big problem with JRPGs in recent times, its always deciding the fate of the world or of humanity, in a super esoteric context..


If by "recent" you mean "every single one since the beginning of the genre", then sure.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
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