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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 11 2014 20:54 GMT
#113301
On June 12 2014 05:51 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:46 Shaella wrote:
actually i think thats a big problem with JRPGs in recent times, its always deciding the fate of the world or of humanity, in a super esoteric context..


And a lot of animes as well.


but one anime does it right, starring our hero inferno cop!!

The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 20:56:06
June 11 2014 20:54 GMT
#113302
On June 12 2014 05:53 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:47 SKC wrote:
It's not like you weren't fighting to stop the end of the world before FF8... In 6 you even failed to do so, which was interesting.

That's not a series going to weird places, that's a series not going to weird places, and you getting tired of it because of it.

Did you play FF13? Cause that game is a hot pile of weird nonsense. It's so dumb and Japanese in the worst ways possible. And the combat is super weird and passively it kinda hurts.

And them there is Persona 4, the superior JRPG, with better combat and systems, likable characters and Japanese in all the right ways.

No, but when you say it only got worse after 7, you are not talking about only 13. I said in my post 9 and 10 were top contenders for best FF, nothing about 13.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
June 11 2014 20:56 GMT
#113303
Am I the only one finding these games boring?
All dem pokemon/ff games.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
June 11 2014 20:58 GMT
#113304
On June 12 2014 05:56 Steveling wrote:
Am I the only one finding these games boring?
All dem pokemon/ff games.

I found Pokemon fun when I was younger. Not into FF at all.

Best oldschool games are megaman anyway
리노크 👑
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 21:03:33
June 11 2014 20:59 GMT
#113305
On June 12 2014 05:54 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:53 Plansix wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:47 SKC wrote:
It's not like you weren't fighting to stop the end of the world before FF8... In 6 you even failed to do so, which was interesting.

That's not a series going to weird places, that's a series not going to weird places, and you getting tired of it because of it.

Did you play FF13? Cause that game is a hot pile of weird nonsense. It's so dumb and Japanese in the worst ways possible. And the combat is super weird and passively it kinda hurts.

And them there is Persona 4, the superior JRPG, with better combat and systems, likable characters and Japanese in all the right ways.

No, but when you say it only got worse after 7, you are not talking about only 13. I said in my post 9 and 10 were top contenders for best FF, nothing about 13.

I like 9 and 10 in a way, but they started stronger than they ended. 9 had the whole monkey tail thing leading to the end of the world and 10 was some dream non sense and you not being real.

So yeah, they were fucking weird.

Also, where is my modern mega man game. They can't make a 3rd person action game out of that? Because it would be bad ass.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 11 2014 21:01 GMT
#113306
On June 12 2014 05:59 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:54 SKC wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:53 Plansix wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:47 SKC wrote:
It's not like you weren't fighting to stop the end of the world before FF8... In 6 you even failed to do so, which was interesting.

That's not a series going to weird places, that's a series not going to weird places, and you getting tired of it because of it.

Did you play FF13? Cause that game is a hot pile of weird nonsense. It's so dumb and Japanese in the worst ways possible. And the combat is super weird and passively it kinda hurts.

And them there is Persona 4, the superior JRPG, with better combat and systems, likable characters and Japanese in all the right ways.

No, but when you say it only got worse after 7, you are not talking about only 13. I said in my post 9 and 10 were top contenders for best FF, nothing about 13.

I like 9 and 10 in a way, but they started stronger than they ended. 9 had the whole monkey tail thing leading to the end of the world and 10 was some dream non sense and you not being real.

So yeah, they were fucking weird.

FF was always fucking weird. I would say FF7 is the weirdest of all PS FFs.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 11 2014 21:02 GMT
#113307
On June 12 2014 05:59 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:54 SKC wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:53 Plansix wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:47 SKC wrote:
It's not like you weren't fighting to stop the end of the world before FF8... In 6 you even failed to do so, which was interesting.

That's not a series going to weird places, that's a series not going to weird places, and you getting tired of it because of it.

Did you play FF13? Cause that game is a hot pile of weird nonsense. It's so dumb and Japanese in the worst ways possible. And the combat is super weird and passively it kinda hurts.

And them there is Persona 4, the superior JRPG, with better combat and systems, likable characters and Japanese in all the right ways.

No, but when you say it only got worse after 7, you are not talking about only 13. I said in my post 9 and 10 were top contenders for best FF, nothing about 13.

I like 9 and 10 in a way, but they started stronger than they ended. 9 had the whole monkey tail thing leading to the end of the world and 10 was some dream non sense and you not being real.

So yeah, they were fucking weird.


Still beats amnesia (Looking at you FF7 / FF8)
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 21:08:14
June 11 2014 21:03 GMT
#113308
does anyone know if the other 6-8 teams will get player cards too for TI4? (sorry for off topic)
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
June 11 2014 21:03 GMT
#113309
I loved the first pokemon games as a kid, that's why I can still play the first two generations today. I tried the third generation, didn't feel the excitement I got back then. Dunno what to do with the latest generations. Also never was into FF, I watched my buddy play FF10, just isn't my cup of game.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 11 2014 21:07 GMT
#113310
Mega sableye just got confirmed holy shit though, one of my favourite mons ever.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 11 2014 21:08 GMT
#113311
On June 12 2014 06:02 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 05:59 Plansix wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:54 SKC wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:53 Plansix wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:47 SKC wrote:
It's not like you weren't fighting to stop the end of the world before FF8... In 6 you even failed to do so, which was interesting.

That's not a series going to weird places, that's a series not going to weird places, and you getting tired of it because of it.

Did you play FF13? Cause that game is a hot pile of weird nonsense. It's so dumb and Japanese in the worst ways possible. And the combat is super weird and passively it kinda hurts.

And them there is Persona 4, the superior JRPG, with better combat and systems, likable characters and Japanese in all the right ways.

No, but when you say it only got worse after 7, you are not talking about only 13. I said in my post 9 and 10 were top contenders for best FF, nothing about 13.

I like 9 and 10 in a way, but they started stronger than they ended. 9 had the whole monkey tail thing leading to the end of the world and 10 was some dream non sense and you not being real.

So yeah, they were fucking weird.


Still beats amnesia (Looking at you FF7 / FF8)

You mean the "quick, the hero is a bad ass, but we need an excuse to have a tutorial and a reason why he doesn't just beat up everyone from the start" excuse used in every game.

Such a story writing crutch for video games.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 21:10:30
June 11 2014 21:09 GMT
#113312
On June 12 2014 06:08 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 06:02 Drazerk wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:59 Plansix wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:54 SKC wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:53 Plansix wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:47 SKC wrote:
It's not like you weren't fighting to stop the end of the world before FF8... In 6 you even failed to do so, which was interesting.

That's not a series going to weird places, that's a series not going to weird places, and you getting tired of it because of it.

Did you play FF13? Cause that game is a hot pile of weird nonsense. It's so dumb and Japanese in the worst ways possible. And the combat is super weird and passively it kinda hurts.

And them there is Persona 4, the superior JRPG, with better combat and systems, likable characters and Japanese in all the right ways.

No, but when you say it only got worse after 7, you are not talking about only 13. I said in my post 9 and 10 were top contenders for best FF, nothing about 13.

I like 9 and 10 in a way, but they started stronger than they ended. 9 had the whole monkey tail thing leading to the end of the world and 10 was some dream non sense and you not being real.

So yeah, they were fucking weird.


Still beats amnesia (Looking at you FF7 / FF8)

You mean the "quick, the hero is a bad ass, but we need an excuse to have a tutorial and a reason why he doesn't just beat up everyone from the start" excuse used in every game.

Such a story writing crutch for video games.


No I'm talking about Zack Fair / the whole orphanage business which was pretty dumb

(Ok I actually love Zack in Crisis Core I just didn't like his existence in FF7 because it subtracted my love for cloud)
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 11 2014 21:11 GMT
#113313
On June 12 2014 06:03 Geo.Rion wrote:
does anyone know if the other 6-8 teams will get player cards too for TI4? (sorry for off topic)

Cyborgmatt tweeted about Demon's card, so yes.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 21:14:45
June 11 2014 21:12 GMT
#113314
On June 12 2014 06:09 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 06:08 Plansix wrote:
On June 12 2014 06:02 Drazerk wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:59 Plansix wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:54 SKC wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:53 Plansix wrote:
On June 12 2014 05:47 SKC wrote:
It's not like you weren't fighting to stop the end of the world before FF8... In 6 you even failed to do so, which was interesting.

That's not a series going to weird places, that's a series not going to weird places, and you getting tired of it because of it.

Did you play FF13? Cause that game is a hot pile of weird nonsense. It's so dumb and Japanese in the worst ways possible. And the combat is super weird and passively it kinda hurts.

And them there is Persona 4, the superior JRPG, with better combat and systems, likable characters and Japanese in all the right ways.

No, but when you say it only got worse after 7, you are not talking about only 13. I said in my post 9 and 10 were top contenders for best FF, nothing about 13.

I like 9 and 10 in a way, but they started stronger than they ended. 9 had the whole monkey tail thing leading to the end of the world and 10 was some dream non sense and you not being real.

So yeah, they were fucking weird.


Still beats amnesia (Looking at you FF7 / FF8)

You mean the "quick, the hero is a bad ass, but we need an excuse to have a tutorial and a reason why he doesn't just beat up everyone from the start" excuse used in every game.

Such a story writing crutch for video games.


No I'm talking about Zack Fair / the whole orphanage business which was pretty dumb

(Ok I actually love Zack in Crisis Core I just didn't like his existence in FF7 because it subtracted my love for cloud)

Well, Zack being a good character doesn't really changes Cloud's multiple personality disorder, but I don't know anything about Crisis Core, so Zack does mean much to me. And there's also the Sephiroth mommy issues...

FFT had the best plot in the system. Or at least the one that wasn't fucking weird.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 11 2014 21:43 GMT
#113315
maybe nostalgia goggles, but I liked gen 1 not because the gameplay was objectively better, but because the pokemon themselves were far better from an artistic standpoint.
they looked badass, kinda like intelligent dinosaur pets that you could catch and forge in glorious battle

i mean this pretty much sums it up
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
June 11 2014 21:48 GMT
#113316
I mean really bulbasuar is a dog with a parasitic plant living on its back. Squirtle is just a turtle. Charmander is a bipedal newt. Whats cool about any of that? Its not very hard to make any gens pokemon look bad, because its a video game and thus subjective tastes.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 11 2014 21:49 GMT
#113317
On June 12 2014 06:43 andyrau wrote:
maybe nostalgia goggles, but I liked gen 1 not because the gameplay was objectively better, but because the pokemon themselves were far better from an artistic standpoint.
they looked badass, kinda like intelligent dinosaur pets that you could catch and forge in glorious battle

i mean this pretty much sums it up
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


this strangely accurate for starters, but I wouldn't generalize it for all generations.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
June 11 2014 21:49 GMT
#113318
The hoenn region map was by far the best of any gen imo, it was so so good. Favourite game is still leaf green though, first game I ever played along with age of mythology
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 21:51:37
June 11 2014 21:50 GMT
#113319
Then you should like gen 2 too since most of the mons in gen 2 were designed alongside gen 1 and could've easily made an appearance in gen 1

Also honestly, the design formula hasn't changed much(Although there is definitely changes from gen to gen so you can definitely have gen preferences) so i'd say yes it's notalgia goggles if you think it's because the new designs are dumb

Gen 5 gave us trash-pokémon(As in actual trash not bad design) while gen 1 gave us sludge-pokémon.
Gen 5 gave us a pokémon that was just gears while gen 1 gave us pokémon that were just magnets.
Etc. They really aren't that different.

On June 12 2014 06:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2014 06:43 andyrau wrote:
maybe nostalgia goggles, but I liked gen 1 not because the gameplay was objectively better, but because the pokemon themselves were far better from an artistic standpoint.
they looked badass, kinda like intelligent dinosaur pets that you could catch and forge in glorious battle

i mean this pretty much sums it up
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


this strangely accurate for starters, but I wouldn't generalize it for all generations.

gen 6 starters were fucking awesome though.

Greninja and Chesnaught are fucking boss.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 11 2014 21:54 GMT
#113320
On June 12 2014 06:49 kollin wrote:
The hoenn region map was by far the best of any gen imo, it was so so good. Favourite game is still leaf green though, first game I ever played along with age of mythology

Too much water. Had cool areas but boring towns/gyms I felt (minus fortree / pacifilog)
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