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DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
May 07 2014 18:16 GMT
#106161
How many of my fellow hontrash is using B for shop?
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ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 18:17:35
May 07 2014 18:17 GMT
#106162
Space35
YZB

Item hotkeys. Legacy keys for abilities, have to do some changes when playing Rubick ofc.

124 are my control groups. All about molding your hand around Legacy keys while still maintaining the abilitiy to use "A" only for attacking clicking.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44292 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 18:17:54
May 07 2014 18:17 GMT
#106163
oh yeah .. who played dota 1 before playing dota 2 here ? who still uses legacy keys here?
this is a quote
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
May 07 2014 18:18 GMT
#106164
I use spacebar (usually boots/armlet/blink), z,x,c for active items and alt+z, alt+x for TP/wards/inactive items

anyhow, how do you people build QoP? I know she's flexible. I usually go Bottle->Treads->Orchid but she feels so...brittle with it. The mana regen isn't enough to spam her scream and she has so little HP/regen. Linkens first? but then how do you kill anything. Aghs? BKB first? idk
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
May 07 2014 18:22 GMT
#106165
On May 08 2014 03:18 hooahah wrote:
I use spacebar (usually boots/armlet/blink), z,x,c for active items and alt+z, alt+x for TP/wards/inactive items

anyhow, how do you people build QoP? I know she's flexible. I usually go Bottle->Treads->Orchid but she feels so...brittle with it. The mana regen isn't enough to spam her scream and she has so little HP/regen. Linkens first? but then how do you kill anything. Aghs? BKB first? idk

For me after orchid getting a linkens/sheep/bkb/aghs are good in any order or depends on opposing enemy heroes.
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 18:33:09
May 07 2014 18:31 GMT
#106166
I copied IceIceIce's hotkeys, with a couple of modifications. alt + qwe, zxc for items, F1 F2 purchase quickbuy/sticky, G learn new skill, V for voice chat, spacebar for hero, side mouse buttons for shop and chat wheel, T for selecting courier, select all other units bound to 2.

Other than that it's all defaults.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 18:37:11
May 07 2014 18:34 GMT
#106167
On May 08 2014 03:18 hooahah wrote:
anyhow, how do you people build QoP? I know she's flexible. I usually go Bottle->Treads->Orchid but she feels so...brittle with it. The mana regen isn't enough to spam her scream and she has so little HP/regen. Linkens first? but then how do you kill anything. Aghs? BKB first? idk

Orchid is gank/solo-kill oriented. The fundamental goal of Orchid-first QoP is to present a solo-kill threat against most enemy heroes with her high burst damage and control the map this way before heroes have outs against Orchid like BKB--then using the farm advantage from that map control to get a 2nd major item before the enemy does. Being "brittle" doesn't matter in this scenario because you shouldn't be looking for full-on 5v5 fights prior to your second major item and focus primarily on finding those kills or forcing the enemy to spread out and expose themselves to those kills (e.g. pushing lanes into towers to force TPs). If you get caught split-pushing or counter-killed during a gank/solo-kill that's more on bad decision making/execution than needing more survivability from your first item.

Linken's is essentially fully farm/split-push oriented where you don't plan on killing things until your 2nd major item. BKB and Agha are aimed at 5v5ing with different types of teamcomps.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
May 07 2014 18:37 GMT
#106168
On May 08 2014 03:16 DrPandaPhD wrote:
How many of my fellow hontrash is using B for shop?

One of the first things I did in HoN was switch the shop hotkey to 5, which is the hotkey I used for the shop in Dota 1.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 07 2014 18:40 GMT
#106169
I actually put the scoreboard on B.
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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 18:44:13
May 07 2014 18:41 GMT
#106170
On May 08 2014 03:31 Fencar wrote:
I copied IceIceIce's hotkeys, with a couple of modifications. alt + qwe, zxc for items, F1 F2 purchase quickbuy/sticky, G learn new skill, V for voice chat, spacebar for hero, side mouse buttons for shop and chat wheel, T for selecting courier, select all other units bound to 2.

Other than that it's all defaults.


Is there any trick to not being terrible about pinging the map when using alt+key for items, well other than just not being terrible? As far as I can tell I can't remap the alt hotkey.

I feel bad everytime I end up ping spamming because I'm trying to use blink dagger and the rest of my fingers move faster than it takes me to release the alt key.

I wish I could swap ctrl and alt in functions then just use ctrl-q-w-etc. for items.
Logo
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
May 07 2014 18:43 GMT
#106171
B is my Deafening Blast.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 18:47:06
May 07 2014 18:45 GMT
#106172
On May 08 2014 02:30 Firebolt145 wrote:
TP always on alt-D, boots always on alt-S, stick/wand always on alt-A. Alt-QWE are for any utility items.

weiiiiiiiiiiiiird
alt-anything would be hard for me

my only odd hotkey is tab for hero select and cycle units is `
oh yeah and my shop is "." for some reason i dont know why but im used to it
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VeryAverage
Profile Joined January 2011
United States424 Posts
May 07 2014 18:54 GMT
#106173
On May 08 2014 03:17 goody153 wrote:
oh yeah .. who played dota 1 before playing dota 2 here ? who still uses legacy keys here?


I do. I just cannot change. Weird thing was, when I played Ember and Timbersaw for the first time after never playing him in WC3 Dota since I switched to Dota 2 by the time they were released, I still knew the keys immediately.

I could not tell you 75% the hotkeys for spells outside of the game yet my fingers know them instantly when I'm in game.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 07 2014 18:57 GMT
#106174
Learning hotkeys is 100x easier than forgetting hotkeys.
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kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
May 07 2014 19:00 GMT
#106175
Learning hotkeys is pretty much just playing tinker vs bots for me. Took like 5 games to never use the wrong one ever again when I switched last.
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Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 19:03:36
May 07 2014 19:02 GMT
#106176
On May 08 2014 03:41 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 03:31 Fencar wrote:
I copied IceIceIce's hotkeys, with a couple of modifications. alt + qwe, zxc for items, F1 F2 purchase quickbuy/sticky, G learn new skill, V for voice chat, spacebar for hero, side mouse buttons for shop and chat wheel, T for selecting courier, select all other units bound to 2.

Other than that it's all defaults.


Is there any trick to not being terrible about pinging the map when using alt+key for items, well other than just not being terrible? As far as I can tell I can't remap the alt hotkey.

I feel bad everytime I end up ping spamming because I'm trying to use blink dagger and the rest of my fingers move faster than it takes me to release the alt key.

I wish I could swap ctrl and alt in functions then just use ctrl-q-w-etc. for items.

Practice! :D

I used to do it too, then I did it less and less, then stopped. So yeah, practice.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 07 2014 19:03 GMT
#106177
Icefrog's hotkey choices for heroes actually also follow somewhat straightforward patterns, discounting some strangeness with older heroes.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 19:05:22
May 07 2014 19:03 GMT
#106178
Also people with only like 4 item slots bound are silly. Lots of heroes end up with 6 slots that need activation. Boots/Stick/TP/Wards/Sentries/blink is extremely common as a support. Can sub dust for sentries or whatever. also smoke. Also bottle, drums, force, urn, etc.

Hell even carries with like manta satanic drums boots TP wand or bkb or something (okay okay who the hell goes manta satanic. Maybe manta diffusal?)
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-07 19:06:47
May 07 2014 19:04 GMT
#106179
there are people that dont have all their item keys bound?
how do they play windrunner?
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
May 07 2014 19:04 GMT
#106180
On May 08 2014 03:13 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2014 03:10 andyrau wrote:
On May 08 2014 02:57 cecek wrote:
I will never understand how someone can use alt+qwer for items. That sounds like the easiest thing to missclick.

I don't understand how anyone coming from an rts background can use the number keys for anything other than a unit

I also distinctly remember using numpad/mouse clicking for my inventory in dota 1 because I was too retarded to change them or something

You actually couldn't change inventory keys in warcraft 3 settings. You needed a third party program running for that to work. I think you could even get banned on ladder for doing that, or some shit. At least that's what I heard back then, might have been an urban legend or some shit, I dunno.

e: Actually you could probably get banned for that because it was a third party program interacting with the game, that makes sense.


AHK (or warkey or whatever) doesn't interact with the game at all and blizzard didn't ban people for using it.
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