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DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
May 05 2014 17:54 GMT
#105881
My exams don't interfere with TI this time because it's earlier, fuck yeah!
But does it djent?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 05 2014 17:56 GMT
#105882
I mean its unfortunate that all the Germans have exams then but u guys get ESL frankfurt it could be worse
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DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
May 05 2014 17:57 GMT
#105883
Nobody of my friends want to go to Frankfurt with me, they are literally killing eSports here. Gonna go anyway I think
But does it djent?
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 05 2014 17:59 GMT
#105884
i only have 2 hours way and got a friend living in darmstadt where i can sleep so its basically a given to go
even friends from austria come, i dont think theres any excuses for a german not to go to esl one !
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-05 18:06:27
May 05 2014 18:05 GMT
#105885
On May 06 2014 02:59 teddyoojo wrote:
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i only have 2 hours way and got a friend living in darmstadt where i can sleep so its basically a given to go
even friends from austria come,

i dont think theres any excuses for a german not to go to esl one !


That's what I am thinking too. I just need to figure out how to get there and where to sleep (on a low budget).
But does it djent?
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
May 05 2014 18:09 GMT
#105886
On May 06 2014 02:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
I mean its unfortunate that all the Germans have exams then but u guys get ESL frankfurt it could be worse

I'm not even getting that -_-

Tough life of being a Physio.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 05 2014 18:15 GMT
#105887
So close to TI. Are we ready for the influx of SC2 fans comming in to drama up the thread and complain about heroes like PL, NP and Lycan? Not in the funny, self aware way we normally do, but with the dealt seriousness of someone talking about a fatal disease or war crime.
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TL+ Member
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
May 05 2014 18:17 GMT
#105888
So absolute nothing will change?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 05 2014 18:18 GMT
#105889
There's some seriously misguided dota-player whiners, some of whom are quite good.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
May 05 2014 18:18 GMT
#105890
I don't mind the influx in balance whine, I'll blow my brains out when they start talking about esports and professionalism though.
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
May 05 2014 18:21 GMT
#105891
Didnt puppey said like "rape" during an interview, and people went nuts about that
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-05 18:26:57
May 05 2014 18:25 GMT
#105892
On May 06 2014 03:18 crms wrote:
I don't mind the influx in balance whine, I'll blow my brains out when they start talking about esports and professionalism though.

The words "disgusting", "disappointed" and "unforgivable" will be used and abused.

And the balance whine in the dota 2 forums is tame compaired to the sludge that comes out of the SC2 forums. This place stil remembers that we are all playing a game. Or the complaints about formattes.
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TL+ Member
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
May 05 2014 18:27 GMT
#105893
Isn't any kind of balance disucssion in LRs banned anyway?
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
May 05 2014 18:28 GMT
#105894
dota 2 is like the wild west, no rules
AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
May 05 2014 18:29 GMT
#105895
On May 06 2014 02:30 Sn0_Man wrote:
Americas Qualifier: May 12-15 12:00PM EST
Southeast Asia Qualifier: May 16-19 12:00PM SGT
China Qualifier: May 20-23 12:00PM CCT
Europe Qualifier: May 24-27 12:00PM CEST

Directly from the Dota 2 blog. Note the difference in timezones for each tournament and adjust accordingly. 4 days each. I think theres actually an explanation of how the days pan out too somewhere? Day 1 is like a group stage with like 4 concurrent games then the later days are playoffs or something.

AHA:
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QUALIFIER FORMAT
In the first phase, each team plays every team once to determine which teams make it to the next phase.
The top four teams advance and the other six are eliminated. The second phase is a double elimination best of three format with the 1st and 2nd place teams starting in the upper bracket and 3rd and 4th in the lower bracket. Each Regional Grand Finals is a best of five match.


Thanks :D (i could've probably found that myself i guess, oh well )
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 05 2014 18:30 GMT
#105896
On May 06 2014 03:27 Talron wrote:
Isn't any kind of balance disucssion in LRs banned anyway?

In SC2 forums, sort of. "I'm interested to see how Korean terrans handle the new swarmhost style as it seems very strong against the current meta of XYZ" is generally fine but "Wow swarmhosts are so OP this is disgusting how are terrans ever supposed to beat zerg?" is probably a great way to get warned/banned.

Unfortunately, posts rather similar to the 2nd example fly freely in the dota LRs.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 05 2014 18:33 GMT
#105897
How do you even beat Ursa in pubs, he has like 60% winrate!

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TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
May 05 2014 18:34 GMT
#105898
On May 06 2014 03:25 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 03:18 crms wrote:
I don't mind the influx in balance whine, I'll blow my brains out when they start talking about esports and professionalism though.

The words "disgusting", "disappointed" and "unforgivable" will be used and abused.

And the balance whine in the dota 2 forums is tame compaired to the sludge that comes out of the SC2 forums. This place stil remembers that we are all playing a game.

Well Dota 2 you play a ton of different heroes, and with 100+ to choose from there are generally more than enough interactions to mitigate imbalance. Also you can queue captain's to avoid the bullshit heroes. SC2, if something's shit you're basically stuck with it.


In general I find the Dota community is actually a lot more receptive to the idea of imbalances / things being OP. Can't speak for the last year or so, but when I used to play SC2 I found it almost comical how much backlash you'd get for suggesting something was over / underpowered..
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 05 2014 18:34 GMT
#105899
On May 06 2014 03:27 Talron wrote:
Isn't any kind of balance disucssion in LRs banned anyway?

Yes, so over the years the whiners have evolved and mask their whine behind more acceptable topics, it's a fine art.

I just remember the "outrage" over the power of rat dota last year, demanding that PL be removed for the good of the viewers and that NP was evil. It was pretty fun. They were also fun at MLG.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 05 2014 18:39 GMT
#105900
On May 06 2014 03:34 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 03:25 Plansix wrote:
On May 06 2014 03:18 crms wrote:
I don't mind the influx in balance whine, I'll blow my brains out when they start talking about esports and professionalism though.

The words "disgusting", "disappointed" and "unforgivable" will be used and abused.

And the balance whine in the dota 2 forums is tame compaired to the sludge that comes out of the SC2 forums. This place stil remembers that we are all playing a game.

Well Dota 2 you play a ton of different heroes, and with 100+ to choose from there are generally more than enough interactions to mitigate imbalance. Also you can queue captain's to avoid the bullshit heroes. SC2, if something's shit you're basically stuck with it.


In general I find the Dota community is actually a lot more receptive to the idea of imbalances / things being OP. Can't speak for the last year or so, but when I used to play SC2 I found it almost comical how much backlash you'd get for suggesting something was over / underpowered..

I have always found it to be super funny how mad people get, like you kicked a kitten or something.

But I'm sure it will be better this year and folks won't freak out amount professionalism to much. But if not, then at least it will be funny.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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