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Klowney
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden277 Posts
May 05 2014 18:42 GMT
#105901
Treant should get an aghs upgrade that gives his ulti dmg again and maybe bigger aoe.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-05 18:44:43
May 05 2014 18:44 GMT
#105902
Treant aghs upgrade: applies current level of leech seed to each enemy hit by the ult *or* applies current level of living armor to each ally hit by the ult. Or both >_>

Either way, pretty swag lol.
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Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
May 05 2014 18:47 GMT
#105903
i'm pretty sure we should refrain from any kind of treant buffing
u gotta farm
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
May 05 2014 18:47 GMT
#105904
On May 06 2014 03:34 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 03:27 Talron wrote:
Isn't any kind of balance disucssion in LRs banned anyway?

Yes, so over the years the whiners have evolved and mask their whine behind more acceptable topics, it's a fine art.

I just remember the "outrage" over the power of rat dota last year, demanding that PL be removed for the good of the viewers and that NP was evil. It was pretty fun. They were also fun at MLG.

Hyperboles aside, aren't those all legitimate complaints? PL got nerfed pretty substantially and by the time TI3 hit rat dota had become THE way to play, enough that Icefrog felt it was worth addressing
Dodge arrows
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 05 2014 18:47 GMT
#105905
On May 06 2014 03:27 Talron wrote:
Isn't any kind of balance disucssion in LRs banned anyway?

didnt stop me
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
njt7
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden769 Posts
May 05 2014 18:51 GMT
#105906
So NA rejects is the best fully American team or que?
"All the casters who flamed me ever for anything."
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 05 2014 18:53 GMT
#105907
On May 06 2014 03:51 njt7 wrote:
So NA rejects is the best fully American team or que?

well its them or ehug right?
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-05 18:53:17
May 05 2014 18:53 GMT
#105908
revenge
ehugs awful
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 05 2014 18:53 GMT
#105909
Revenge aint fully american they are all peruvian.

Unless you mean "fully from the american continents".
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TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
May 05 2014 18:54 GMT
#105910
Treant aghs buff: game pretends the ult does damage; you'll now get assists for kills; grants temporary immunity to people who obsess with K/D/A
Dodge arrows
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 05 2014 18:57 GMT
#105911
1437s canadian
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-05 18:58:50
May 05 2014 18:58 GMT
#105912
Sure but NAR have 5 US[A]mericans or something even if dismek's benched every game.

I suppose ur right-ish.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 05 2014 19:00 GMT
#105913
On May 06 2014 03:47 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 03:34 Plansix wrote:
On May 06 2014 03:27 Talron wrote:
Isn't any kind of balance disucssion in LRs banned anyway?

Yes, so over the years the whiners have evolved and mask their whine behind more acceptable topics, it's a fine art.

I just remember the "outrage" over the power of rat dota last year, demanding that PL be removed for the good of the viewers and that NP was evil. It was pretty fun. They were also fun at MLG.

Hyperboles aside, aren't those all legitimate complaints? PL got nerfed pretty substantially and by the time TI3 hit rat dota had become THE way to play, enough that Icefrog felt it was worth addressing

Complaints and discussion are fine. Doing it with the ferver of someone condemning mass murder is just comical when it's about a video game. It doesn't improve anyone's viewing experience and just makes the arguments look silly.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
May 05 2014 19:08 GMT
#105914
On May 06 2014 03:44 Sn0_Man wrote:
Treant aghs upgrade: applies current level of leech seed to each enemy hit by the ult *or* applies current level of living armor to each ally hit by the ult. Or both >_>

Either way, pretty swag lol.

That would make overgrowth the most OP ability in the game bar none. I could maybe see it applying leech seed to every enemy hero, but definitely not every enemy unit. Can you imagine that? You hit 6 creeps and 2 heroes (that sounds reasonable, you could easily get more) and you would in total get like 2.5k AoE heal. :D 8 targets, 6 pulses, 60hp per pulse. Even if it worked just on heroes, it would be too good, I think. If you hit ult 2 heroes, and manually cast a third leech seed that would still be like a 1k aoe heal.
super gg
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 05 2014 19:10 GMT
#105915
Okay yeah hero seems like the most reasonable option.

Don't forget the interaction with BKB wouldn't change, you need to buy an aghs on shitpoor treant who never gets any farm space and can't flashfarm, etc.

I'm just dreaming up funny ideas, I'll admit its probably too good. But mega-hilarious.
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Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
May 05 2014 19:13 GMT
#105916
Treant ASU makes it a global castrange AoE ground targeted ability. That's what I'd call too good.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 05 2014 19:14 GMT
#105917
So basically gyros ASU?

I think IceFraud likes to give different things or something.
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Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
May 05 2014 19:16 GMT
#105918
Yeah, tho Gyro's ASU is mediocre at best, while Treants would be pretty damn strong.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-05 19:20:44
May 05 2014 19:18 GMT
#105919
Treant Aghs: Merges Nature's Guise and Living Armor into a single spell. The new spell has global cast and applies the living armor and the invisibility. The new spell has Nature's Guise cooldown (10/8/6/4). :D

edit: the cooldown actually sounds OP as hell. Maybe 21/17/13/9, average between guise and armor.
super gg
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-05 19:19:03
May 05 2014 19:18 GMT
#105920
On May 06 2014 04:16 Talron wrote:
Yeah, tho Gyro's ASU is mediocre at best, while Treants would be pretty damn strong.

Well, that has to do with the roles the heroes usually play not with how good the upgrade is. And i guess a little about how tree's ult is centered on the hero whereas gyro's is ground target at decent range.
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