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Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
April 25 2014 03:53 GMT
#104441
On April 25 2014 12:39 Najda wrote:
Also, don't expect all your teammates to suddenly be significantly better just because you went up a bunch in mmr. You'll still see terrible picks and terrible item choices, though the mistake might not be as terrible as the linken sphere spectre, it can still have similar affect on the game since smaller things matter more.

When you guys are solo queuing do you do all pick or captains mode?


CD when i rarely rank to dodge the mass 1 hero pickers
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
April 25 2014 03:54 GMT
#104442
i wish to never enter the hell hole that is solo queue captains again
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 03:56:00
April 25 2014 03:55 GMT
#104443
On April 25 2014 12:39 Najda wrote:
Also, don't expect all your teammates to suddenly be significantly better just because you went up a bunch in mmr. You'll still see terrible picks and terrible item choices, though the mistake might not be as terrible as the linken sphere spectre, it can still have similar affect on the game since smaller things matter more.

When you guys are solo queuing do you do all pick or captains mode?



I stick with all pick. Right now the copy-a-pro meta for CM can't be that great. Also I really don't feel like having any of my two or three games come down to which captain is slightly less dumb (on top of the fact that I cant be arsed to captain).

Honestly I just don't feel like playing AA/Dazzle/Lich every game. Then again I've always had more success with more aggressive supports.
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wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
April 25 2014 03:58 GMT
#104444
Don't worry about loss of mmr lol. I lost like 200++ mmr when i playing 1 day, and still recover back to the trench I were by randoming lol
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
April 25 2014 04:55 GMT
#104445
3.3k trench randoming every game, yo.
You always get people who have a bad day or dont play seriously at all mmr ranges.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 25 2014 05:27 GMT
#104446
On April 25 2014 08:20 SKC wrote:
Yes, it is possible to go past the 3.8k mark playing support.

How much time someone took to reach a certain MMR is meaningless. You are not really climbing a ladder, its not like your rank is supposed to increase just because you are playing. Some people started at 5k, some people started ranked at 3k and will forever play at 3k, someone may have won 20 straight games and went from 3800 to 4.2k in 20 games.

It's possible going anywhere with playing support

I went 4.6 -> 5.1 playing lion and jungle doom "primarily" (the meka blink shiva warstomp kind of doom).

But then again, you do feel the most helpless when your team is having a bad game and you're the only one not feeding / overextending etc. but it's definitly possible
In the woods, there lurks..
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 05:43:02
April 25 2014 05:35 GMT
#104447
I think if you're 2.5 - 3k~ the people playing carry/mid etc aren't going to be as instrumental as those at 4.5+ though.
Though they'd be of a comparable level to the enemies team players, so maybe it levels out? I dunno.

I think if you truly want to get a higher MMR (+quicker) you are much better off not playing support (edit: In soloQ. If with friends, play whatever and enjoy it). Like that guy from playDOTA/joinDOTA or wherever who took the 2.5k account to 4+, i'm pretty sure he didn't play a single support game.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 05:39:28
April 25 2014 05:39 GMT
#104448
He took it to 5.2k IIRC.
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Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
April 25 2014 06:05 GMT
#104449
On April 25 2014 14:35 ReignSupreme. wrote:
I think if you're 2.5 - 3k~ the people playing carry/mid etc aren't going to be as instrumental as those at 4.5+ though.
Though they'd be of a comparable level to the enemies team players, so maybe it levels out? I dunno.

I think if you truly want to get a higher MMR (+quicker) you are much better off not playing support (edit: In soloQ. If with friends, play whatever and enjoy it). Like that guy from playDOTA/joinDOTA or wherever who took the 2.5k account to 4+, i'm pretty sure he didn't play a single support game.


If your "natural" mmr is ~5.X then it shouldn't be a problem to insta-mid with SF/TA/whoever and smash out 2000+ points in short order.

5 games a day, have it done in less than a 3 weeks
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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
April 25 2014 06:06 GMT
#104450
The term "support" is so ambiguous. Pretty much any hero can snowball with gold and experience. I can't think of a hero who can't, you just need to get the right items. Players in the 2.5 - 3k range won't be able to last hit well enough to get that far ahead so it's possible to catch up.
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
April 25 2014 06:10 GMT
#104451
I spectated a 3k mmr friend's game before and the carries on both teams had like 20 cs at 10 minutes.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 25 2014 06:46 GMT
#104452
On April 25 2014 12:39 Najda wrote:
Also, don't expect all your teammates to suddenly be significantly better just because you went up a bunch in mmr. You'll still see terrible picks and terrible item choices, though the mistake might not be as terrible as the linken sphere spectre, it can still have similar affect on the game since smaller things matter more.

When you guys are solo queuing do you do all pick or captains mode?


I was told never to play All Pick in Ranked.
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Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
April 25 2014 07:14 GMT
#104453
On April 25 2014 15:46 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2014 12:39 Najda wrote:
Also, don't expect all your teammates to suddenly be significantly better just because you went up a bunch in mmr. You'll still see terrible picks and terrible item choices, though the mistake might not be as terrible as the linken sphere spectre, it can still have similar affect on the game since smaller things matter more.

When you guys are solo queuing do you do all pick or captains mode?


I was told never to play All Pick in Ranked.


?

all the high level games in ranked are AP
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 25 2014 07:15 GMT
#104454
thats cuz people on tl are little bitches and complain about imba champions gg icefrog report 24/7
play all pick
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
April 25 2014 07:16 GMT
#104455
On April 25 2014 15:46 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2014 12:39 Najda wrote:
Also, don't expect all your teammates to suddenly be significantly better just because you went up a bunch in mmr. You'll still see terrible picks and terrible item choices, though the mistake might not be as terrible as the linken sphere spectre, it can still have similar affect on the game since smaller things matter more.

When you guys are solo queuing do you do all pick or captains mode?


I was told never to play All Pick in Ranked.

u were told wrong
all pick or die
u gotta farm
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
April 25 2014 07:20 GMT
#104456
On April 25 2014 16:15 FinestHour wrote:
champions

uh-huh
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 25 2014 07:22 GMT
#104457
sarcasm is difficult to detect with text i know
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 07:36:23
April 25 2014 07:36 GMT
#104458
On April 25 2014 16:15 FinestHour wrote:
thats cuz people on tl are little bitches and complain about imba champions gg icefrog report 24/7
play all pick


heretic!!!!!!!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
April 25 2014 07:41 GMT
#104459
On April 25 2014 16:22 FinestHour wrote:
sarcasm is difficult to detect with text i know

tell me about it
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 25 2014 07:54 GMT
#104460
I play bot games to try out some hero builds and I didn't realize it was infested with tons of Russian botters. All they do is select NP, cliff-jungle in the same spot; afk for 20 minutes and then buy dagon 5 or whatever and farm kills on the easy bots before ending the game in 30 minutes.

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