EPTAlliance got the the group where MVP is. but i think it's the harder group than the one na'vi is in.
hype boys !
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goody153
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Alliance got the the group where MVP is. but i think it's the harder group than the one na'vi is in. hype boys ! | ||
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andyrau
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On April 17 2014 01:37 Talron wrote: We had Necro-Lycan and Wex Invoker. Wasn't enough against his Blademail+Mjöllnir. Was a fun game anyway, but I was completely thrown off, because of how hard it was to deal with WK with just minimal items + level16. wait how do i make the little face inside mjollnir i can't find it on my keyboard wk is useless if you can either isolate him from the team or manaburn him to death if you can force him to teamfight before he gets big you can just kite or ignore him and kill the rest of his team, kinda similar to countering naix except wk has no inherent bkb. On April 17 2014 02:17 Torte de Lini wrote: Double Vanguard Axe, way back in DotA. I could never get a straight reply if it stacked or not for the longest time! vanguard in dota 1 was actually legit though | ||
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goody153
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On April 17 2014 02:45 andyrau wrote: wait how do i make the little face inside mjollnir i can't find it on my keyboard wk is useless if you can either isolate him from the team or manaburn him to death if you can force him to teamfight before he gets big you can just kite or ignore him and kill the rest of his team, kinda similar to countering naix except wk has no inherent bkb. vanguard in dota 1 was actually legit though actually i have to agree .. idk why but vanguard was sort of better in wc3 dota. Maybe the proc chance actually happens in wc3 dota ? idk | ||
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Sn0_Man
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goody153
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On April 17 2014 02:49 Sn0_Man wrote: No, when people played wc3 dota vanguard gave like 325 hp or something and was therefore actually better than the sum of its parts. i don't think so IIRC it was 250 i guess ? but double vanguard axe so strong before but i was a noob back then so w/e. Maybe the two vanguard stack damage block at times ? | ||
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Talron
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On April 17 2014 02:45 andyrau wrote: wait how do i make the little face inside mjollnir i can't find it on my keyboard wk is useless if you can either isolate him from the team or manaburn him to death if you can force him to teamfight before he gets big you can just kite or ignore him and kill the rest of his team, kinda similar to countering naix except wk has no inherent bkb. [...] Guess we just let him get too big then. Tho I still think Mjollnir, Blademail+BKB shouldn't make him facecruch us as ahrd, as he did. Also: Ö/ö is standard on german keyboards Just as Ä/ä and Ü/ü. Y and Z are also swapped for whatever reason, which made playing SF in wc3 a mess, until I found out you can "make" your keyboard english by pressing alt+shift - yea, germany is weird. | ||
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SKC
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Sn0_Man
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On April 17 2014 02:53 Talron wrote: Guess we just let him get too big then. Tho I still think Mjollnir, Blademail+BKB shouldn't make him facecruch us as ahrd, as he did. Also: Ö/ö is standard on german keyboards Just as Ä/ä and Ü/ü. Y and Z are also swapped for whatever reason, which made playing SF in wc3 a mess, until I found out you can "make" your keyboard english by pressing alt+shift - yea, germany is weird. Canadians can make their keyboards french with "Ctrl + Shift" but all that changes is the punctuation on the right /?"';: etc become the accented vowels (e and a mostly). I can't do it at work though apparently. On April 17 2014 02:53 goody153 wrote: i don't think so IIRC it was 250 i guess ? but double vanguard axe so strong before but i was a noob back then so w/e. Maybe the two vanguard stack damage block at times ? It definitely gave 275 pre 6.73 and I think there were other things before but I could be wrong. | ||
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TheYango
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On April 17 2014 02:53 goody153 wrote: i don't think so IIRC it was 250 i guess ? but double vanguard axe so strong before but i was a noob back then so w/e. Maybe the two vanguard stack damage block at times ? Sn0_man is right, Vanguard was nerfed by 25 HP in 6.73. Along with the introduction of Tranquil Boots, this pushed Vanguard out of use. Prior to 6.68, it gave 300 HP, and in its heyday, it gave equal block value to ranged heroes. | ||
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goody153
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On April 17 2014 03:06 TheYango wrote: Sn0_man is right, Vanguard was nerfed by 75 HP in 6.73. Along with the introduction of Tranquil Boots, this pushed Vanguard out of use. hmm i did not know that lol .. silly me .. | ||
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Slardar
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http://www.playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1414103 | ||
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andyrau
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On April 17 2014 02:53 goody153 wrote: i don't think so IIRC it was 250 i guess ? but double vanguard axe so strong before but i was a noob back then so w/e. Maybe the two vanguard stack damage block at times ? i think they stack multiplicatively, and only one shield can proc at any one time (stoutshield, pms, vanguard) in the order of acquisition (most recent -> oldest). so for vanguard it's: .8 chance to block 40 dmg + (.8*.2) chance to block 40 dmg = .8 + .16 = .96 chance to block 40% damage so you're paying like 2k+ to get 250 more health, 6 regen, and a 16% chance to block 40 damage. 2 vanguards aren't worth it. then again rng/prd works super weird so the average block chance isn't actually .8, it's like .6 or something like that. I'm actually super confused about how the distribution works. On April 17 2014 02:53 Talron wrote: Guess we just let him get too big then. Tho I still think Mjollnir, Blademail+BKB shouldn't make him facecruch us as ahrd, as he did. Also: Ö/ö is standard on german keyboards Just as Ä/ä and Ü/ü. Y and Z are also swapped for whatever reason, which made playing SF in wc3 a mess, until I found out you can "make" your keyboard english by pressing alt+shift - yea, germany is weird. christ i was joking about the face/o | ||
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SKC
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Staboteur
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I also built S&Y on EVERYONE. And usually 1v5'd, because starting laning phase with a fucking Yasha meant I could actually last-hit. Those were the days. | ||
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TheYango
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On April 17 2014 03:13 SKC wrote: I'm not sure if order of acquisition matters for anything at all in Dota 2. I would guess it gives priority to the higher block, if they bothered to deal with it. This is correct. | ||
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SKC
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hfglgg
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never finished it though. | ||
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icystorage
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had 12398129850984083549223 strength | ||
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xsevR
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Would removing the ranged restriction on Vanguard send it back to the days of core on every hero? | ||
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