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Sn0_Man
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RolleMcKnolle
Germany1054 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On April 17 2014 00:51 RolleMcKnolle wrote: delete pls <3 | ||
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goody153
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On April 17 2014 00:27 Heyoka wrote: Vaguard was the only way I knew how to play AM for the first few months of my Dota life  there was no vanguard the time we were playing AM for the first time. neither did we have vlads.. it was crappy times. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
Thats what I did when I first starting playing dota2 i mean getting 4000 gold is a fucking insurmountable task when your new. | ||
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Jukei
France114 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
I remember that I always bought headress first (the only 603 gold item in the game! dat efficiency). I remember that I really liked chen (since I could steal THEIR creeps. Didn't know about the jungle). I also remember trying lina, alch, earthshaker (another personal favourite. 3 stuns!). I remember not knowing where the secret shop was, and then when I found it laughing at the prices ("3.8K gold? obviously this shop is for those who cheat themselves gold!" which I promptly did LOL). Ah what a great game. | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:03 PassiveAce wrote: vlads first>>>>>vanguard first Thats what I did when I first starting playing dota2 i mean getting 4000 gold is a fucking insurmountable task when your new. Vlad first is far better than any item when your lane is heavily pressured or supports are retards. | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
On a Sidenote: Call me retarded, but I feel like WK is on the edge of OP. Combining the Hailrake build with another core in a WK team is freakign insane to play against - even if your team has necrobooks. | ||
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Jukei
France114 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:06 Sn0_Man wrote: I only have very fuzzy memories of my first dota games (I played vs bots, didn't have bnet access). I remember that I always bought headress first (the only 603 gold item in the game! dat efficiency). I remember that I really liked chen (since I could steal THEIR creeps. Didn't know about the jungle). I also remember trying lina, alch, earthshaker (another personal favourite. 3 stuns!). I remember not knowing where the secret shop was, and then when I found it laughing at the prices ("3.8K gold? obviously this shop is for those who cheat themselves gold!" which I promptly did LOL). Ah what a great game. Headress first master race. It's cheap, is built easily and gives regen the BEST stat in the game by far, IN AN AOE! I went for it every game every hero every lane xcept if i got first blood or something and then i would rush a perseverance. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
And then I read Merlini's guide to Zeus and stomped pubbies with high-damage nukes. | ||
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andyrau
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On April 17 2014 01:13 Talron wrote: I used to get Vanguard -> Manta -> Battlefury couple of years ago. Shit worked like wonders for me. Then again DLG games were pretty much sub3k if compared to today. On a Sidenote: Call me retarded, but I feel like WK is on the edge of OP. Combining the Hailrake build with another core in a WK team is freakign insane to play against - even if your team has necrobooks. get any hero that mana burns and just gank him constantly before 16 | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:17 Jukei wrote: Headress first master race. It's cheap, is built easily and gives regen the BEST stat in the game by far, IN AN AOE! I went for it every game every hero every lane xcept if i got first blood or something and then i would rush a perseverance. merlini was recommending headdress first on OD as late as the fall of 2012 | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:27 andyrau wrote: get any hero that mana burns and just gank him constantly before 16 We had Necro-Lycan and Wex Invoker. Wasn't enough against his Blademail+Mjöllnir. Was a fun game anyway, but I was completely thrown off, because of how hard it was to deal with WK with just minimal items + level16. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
I think with lycan u just ignore the WK and kill his buildings lol. Also with intoker u just crowd control him without necessarily hitting him (ice wall, tornado, deafening blast, whatever) and kill his teammates. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On April 17 2014 00:49 Sn0_Man wrote: Dotabuff shows rapiers have like a 97% winrate or something though It's only a 90% win rate. You're thinking of the Aegis, which is not an item one can build and therefore logically not relevant to the discussion. I forgive your lack of solid reasoning here, however; not everyone can theorycraft at the highest level, nor can they be expected to. To expand, Rapier is too expensive to be a first item, which is why I recommend rushing a Gem. It has an 84% win rate: it increases your chances of winning by almost 70%! If you save your starting gold and wait in fountain for passive gold you can have it in the third minute of the game and, while not a certain victory, you have single-handedly done the best thing you can to ensure your team wins. If you lose from then on, it is plainly the fault of Valve for matching you with failures. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
On April 17 2014 01:41 Sn0_Man wrote: Damn that proper o with the 2 dots. I think with lycan u just ignore the WK and kill his buildings lol. Also with intoker u just crowd control him without necessarily hitting him (ice wall, tornado, deafening blast, whatever) and kill his teammates. Well that's what I thought as well until that match. Might be, becaue I'm a trench-player #roadto3k starting from 4k, but they were pretty on point in TPing back and killing Lycan. Soon paper, we had everythign to deal with WK in theory, but IceFrog knows why it didn't work. We're probably just scrubs messing it up tho. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On April 17 2014 00:27 Heyoka wrote: Vaguard was the only way I knew how to play AM for the first few months of my Dota life Double Vanguard Axe, way back in DotA. I could never get a straight reply if it stacked or not for the longest time! | ||
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