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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
April 12 2014 22:51 GMT
#102761


Loda firing shots
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
April 12 2014 22:51 GMT
#102762
the 30 attack speed is actually pretty nice lol
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
April 12 2014 22:52 GMT
#102763
On April 13 2014 07:51 ahswtini wrote:
https://twitter.com/LodaBerg/status/455084218373390336

Loda firing shots

If my memory serves correctly, this is virtually identical to a tweet he had almost exactly a year ago.

I don't even know what he's referring to here. Did LD/Lysander flame him today?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-12 22:54:15
April 12 2014 22:53 GMT
#102764
On April 13 2014 07:40 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 07:34 hariooo wrote:
On April 13 2014 07:31 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Odd question, but has anyone ever hidden a Midas pick up by using it and then putting it back on courier for the next 100 seconds?

Midas is often a "let's kill the greedy fuck" signal for the opposition so I was just wondering if people had next levelled like that before. I'm sure I'm not the first to think about it so I guess it's deemed impractical. 30 as is pretty good after all.


What is it going to do? Feign a Radiance rush? In which case the behaviour you're trying to dissuade happens anyway. "Let's kill this hero before they get a Radiance".

Well it could easily just be indecision on your part. Fast HoD or fast BKB or something similar.

The basic idea would be to keep your opponents guessing as to your team's plan. When they don't know what someone's done with 2k gold it's an advantage, albeit maybe marginal and not worth the effort/loss of 30as.

Edit: And yeah, obviously this would have to be with a pro team or at least a 5-stack or something where you can guaranteed know what the courier is going to be doing.


I mean the psychology behind someone thinking you're rushing a BKB with no Ogre Club is a discussion that exceeds the scope that mere TL mortals can provide to you.

On April 13 2014 07:52 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 07:51 ahswtini wrote:
https://twitter.com/LodaBerg/status/455084218373390336

Loda firing shots

If my memory serves correctly, this is virtually identical to a tweet he had almost exactly a year ago.

I don't even know what he's referring to here. Did LD/Lysander flame him today?


Probably Lysander dismissing Bloodstone when it won C9 top rax for absolutely free.
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
April 12 2014 22:58 GMT
#102765


lmao
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-12 23:00:16
April 12 2014 23:00 GMT
#102766
On April 13 2014 07:53 hariooo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 07:40 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On April 13 2014 07:34 hariooo wrote:
On April 13 2014 07:31 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Odd question, but has anyone ever hidden a Midas pick up by using it and then putting it back on courier for the next 100 seconds?

Midas is often a "let's kill the greedy fuck" signal for the opposition so I was just wondering if people had next levelled like that before. I'm sure I'm not the first to think about it so I guess it's deemed impractical. 30 as is pretty good after all.


What is it going to do? Feign a Radiance rush? In which case the behaviour you're trying to dissuade happens anyway. "Let's kill this hero before they get a Radiance".

Well it could easily just be indecision on your part. Fast HoD or fast BKB or something similar.

The basic idea would be to keep your opponents guessing as to your team's plan. When they don't know what someone's done with 2k gold it's an advantage, albeit maybe marginal and not worth the effort/loss of 30as.

Edit: And yeah, obviously this would have to be with a pro team or at least a 5-stack or something where you can guaranteed know what the courier is going to be doing.


I mean the psychology behind someone thinking you're rushing a BKB with no Ogre Club is a discussion that exceeds the scope that mere TL mortals can provide to you.

Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 07:52 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On April 13 2014 07:51 ahswtini wrote:
https://twitter.com/LodaBerg/status/455084218373390336

Loda firing shots

If my memory serves correctly, this is virtually identical to a tweet he had almost exactly a year ago.

I don't even know what he's referring to here. Did LD/Lysander flame him today?


Probably Lysander dismissing Bloodstone when it won C9 top rax for absolutely free.


lmao

I'll e-mail EE-sama and pray he accepts my meagre strategic offering. When they win TI4 I'll assume 0.2% responsibility.

+ Show Spoiler +
Not even slightly sarcastic. Honest.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
April 12 2014 23:48 GMT
#102767
There are caster talking like 8h per day, of course they will say shit sometimes, Loda is just a drama queen.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-13 00:09:33
April 12 2014 23:56 GMT
#102768
On April 13 2014 07:58 Skullflower wrote:
https://twitter.com/ppdDota/status/455087194168758273

lmao

when the 2nd whiniest person in the scene tells u to stop whining :D:D:D:D

even tho i agree, casters need to stop critizicing players for choices they make since they have no clue how to play dota, like when someone goes an item rather than saying "LOLOLO ID RATHER GO BKB LMAONOOB420BLAZEIT" they should just try to find WHY the player went for a certain item rather than assuming u know better since u dont and ur awful
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-13 00:08:54
April 13 2014 00:00 GMT
#102769
Venomancer still good, i think that little nerf didnt make him much weaker did it (i didnt really play him mid)? And the wardvision doesnt help against smokeganks so lowering the ward vision was annoying but not that relevant i think.

I used to skill him 1311, but now i think 1221 into 1241 is maybe better for earlier push/counterpushpower (the lvl2 give the wards +/-125% more hp, worth it). Skilling him like this counters his nerf a bit as damage comes from the wards and less from venomancer. Axe and glasscannons (which i see alot nowadays) dont like poisondamage/poisonslows at all, they melt. I bet and hope that venomancer is gonna been seen alot at ti4 and probably be decisive in the ti4 finals, because i dont feel there was any good reason why he fell off from a first pick to a nobody, it doesnt make sence.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
April 13 2014 00:08 GMT
#102770
On April 13 2014 08:56 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 07:58 Skullflower wrote:
https://twitter.com/ppdDota/status/455087194168758273

lmao

when the 2nd whiniest person in the scene tells u to stop whining :D:D:D:D

dude is like the lost brother of naniwa
u gotta farm
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
April 13 2014 00:19 GMT
#102771
On April 13 2014 09:00 govie wrote:
Venomancer still good, i think that little nerf didnt make him much weaker did it (i didnt really play him mid)? And the wardvision doesnt help against smokeganks so lowering the ward vision was annoying but not that relevant i think.

I used to skill him 1311, but now i think 1221 into 1241 is maybe better for earlier push/counterpushpower (the lvl2 give the wards +/-125% more hp, worth it). Skilling him like this counters his nerf a bit as damage comes from the wards and less from venomancer. Axe and glasscannons (which i see alot nowadays) dont like poisondamage/poisonslows at all, they melt. I bet and hope that venomancer is gonna been seen alot at ti4 and probably be decisive in the ti4 finals, because i dont feel there was any good reason why he fell off from a first pick to a nobody, it doesnt make sence.

How can you decide how to skill veno before the game started? His Q and E are both 1 point wonders which also scales well, then it's up if you want to harass, take or defend T1 early or if you need that extra burst of gale to gank.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
SnowfaLL
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada730 Posts
April 13 2014 00:26 GMT
#102772
On April 13 2014 08:48 pedrlz wrote:
There are caster talking like 8h per day, of course they will say shit sometimes, Loda is just a drama queen.


I don't think people understand the impact casters have on the foundation of esports / "new" viewers to the game who know nothing about the game and take what casters say as gospel. It's why we see so many people stuck on crappy pub builds, because they listen to Aysee or Tobi saying "This is the only way you can build this hero" and then they play a pub game where the SITUATION calls for a different build (say BKB vs a stun-heavy lineup) and they go with the caster's "pro build" - it's unfortunate, and more casters need to be less opinionated and more unbiased. Casters have the opportunity to alter player reputations too, remember how many people bagged on AdmiralBulldog as a 3-hero wonder (or even one hero wonder) until they won TI3?

they are not nearly as bad as early days SC2 casters were.. I mean, people looked up to Artosis so much on GSL, and he was best friends with IdrA (both zerg), so everytime a protoss won a game, we heard some extremely biased casting from Artosis. It's how the whole "protoss deathball attack move" crap started, and since everyone thinks Artosis knew what he was talking about, they started to echo his comments for years. I still think Protoss gets a bad reputation for that sole reason (Artosis and IdrA's zerg nerd rage) - No protoss was respected for their skill in the same way other races were until Rain came along. Anyone remember their "Imbalanced" show?? Thankfully he eventually wised up and became less biased eventually.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 13 2014 00:26 GMT
#102773
who cares
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-13 00:40:26
April 13 2014 00:37 GMT
#102774
lmao on bone7 stream right now, enemy sk allchatting and obviously not knowing its bone, writing stuff like "this lycan is so op, he such a bad player and gets kill only cuz op hero" and constantly making himself look so retarded :D

e: orofl its low priority so ya i guess
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
April 13 2014 00:44 GMT
#102775
On April 13 2014 09:08 Ru ba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2014 08:56 teddyoojo wrote:
On April 13 2014 07:58 Skullflower wrote:
https://twitter.com/ppdDota/status/455087194168758273

lmao

when the 2nd whiniest person in the scene tells u to stop whining :D:D:D:D

dude is like the lost brother of naniwa

i think its a swedish thing

LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 13 2014 00:45 GMT
#102776
On April 13 2014 09:26 FinestHour wrote:
who cares

was it ur 10k post
ur legit son
son u man now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
April 13 2014 00:47 GMT
#102777
Implying Finesthour is smart enough to even realize he was nearing 10k posts.

jk ilu <3
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-13 01:03:48
April 13 2014 00:51 GMT
#102778
i hope my 10k will be as good

also damn konadora
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 13 2014 01:03 GMT
#102779
no it was applauding rabidch for playing a mean lean lycanthrope but unable to win cuz his troop of weeaboos let him down
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
April 13 2014 01:05 GMT
#102780
On April 13 2014 10:03 FinestHour wrote:
no it was applauding rabidch for playing a mean lean lycanthrope but unable to win cuz his troop of weeaboos let him down

But the question is did you even realize it was a 10k post?
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