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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-05 00:09:54
April 05 2014 00:09 GMT
#101901
On April 05 2014 08:42 misirlou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 08:28 hfglgg wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:17 Ru ba wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:08 hfglgg wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:04 Ru ba wrote:
On April 05 2014 07:59 SpiZe wrote:
On April 05 2014 07:29 Ru ba wrote:
On April 05 2014 07:22 Unleashing wrote:
On April 05 2014 07:17 Ru ba wrote:
On April 05 2014 07:09 Unleashing wrote:
[quote]
Stability together with pretty good overall results since TI3.
Why would they not deserve it?

because they haven't actually done anything notable aside from winning that captains draft tournament,which was yea a captains draft
I mean I'm not even sure I would give empire a direct invite
were talking about a direct invite to the biggest tournament of the year,I don't get why you guys think teams that didn't actually win a decent tournament through the year and just did ok deserve a invite
if the team is good they are going to emerge through the qualifier i dont see what the deal is

But that's wrong, Fnatic have done well ever since TI3, they haven't won any notable tournaments but they have landed a good deal of second places and overall done really well compared to the competition.

Stability + overall good results = of course they will be invited.

idk i disagree
I don't think roster stability and "ok results" should equal a direct invite to the biggest thing of the year
If anything the qualifier should be expanded and teams that are clearly a cut above should be given some sort of shorter path to qualifying as opposed to some bozo team but thats about it
fuck freebie invites i wanna see blood,sweat and tears


"ok results" ? The only teams with better results than Fnatic since TI3 are Alliance and Na'Vi. I don't think this qualifies as "ok results" and personally, I think this does warrant an invite.

both C9 and EG have better results as they actually won something
I guess you mean EU teams,but I consider C9 eu I guess since they have 3 players there,not sure how that's going to be handled


so if you win once and then dont do shit again you are better than someone who is constantly second? you cant honestly believe that.

no I just believe fnatic would get consistently crushed by both C9 and EG as is now
Here is how I see it
8 direct invites should go out
EU:navi alliance C9
China:iG,VG,DK
US:EG
SEA:w/e

and ofc it matters more what happens right now,the team that's good now obviously has more potential to do well at TI than some team that's on a downward spiral or mediocre
and I'm not saying fnatic is bad I just think valve should cut down on direct invites that's all


and how do you explain that every qualified team so far did absouletly horrible in the main event while teams like fnatic or liquid who didnt really won much earlier placed in the top8?


I also find laughable that he would send as many invites to China as he would send to the Winner AND Runner up region.


It goes both ways, since after TI2 there were less Chinese Invites (1,3,4) than EU for TI3

The rough distribution should be EU > China > SEA = NA, with what is likely to be 5 Eastern and 6 Western invites overall
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3309 Posts
April 05 2014 00:19 GMT
#101902
dem lycan denies :D
GranDGranT
Profile Joined April 2011
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
April 05 2014 00:44 GMT
#101903
Korok vs Merlini in Matchmaking, both are streaming.
All Dota 2 casters are bad at their job
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
April 05 2014 00:48 GMT
#101904
dis is gonna be gud
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
April 05 2014 01:46 GMT
#101905
can't find the ability draft thread; have they removed divided we stand from it yet?
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
April 05 2014 02:47 GMT
#101906
Don't think so
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
April 05 2014 04:36 GMT
#101907
On April 05 2014 08:45 rysecake wrote:
so, I was discussing pro mid laners with my friend, and he mentioned mmy from dk used to be the greatest mid (even better at his peak than anyone today). Now I started dota 2 beta around ti2 and never played/watched dota 1. Is this true? Why'd he go to a support role if he was so beast at mid? Just curious



Tinker in wc3 dota is named after him.


Weapon X!!!
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
April 05 2014 04:58 GMT
#101908
lol Arteezy. "it's Korean pop time guys."

"oh fuck it's a boy band... Whatever I can dig this shit"

Arteezy Kpop boyband fan now?
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
April 05 2014 04:58 GMT
#101909
RTZ has always been a demon fan
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
April 05 2014 07:01 GMT
#101910
On April 05 2014 08:45 rysecake wrote:
so, I was discussing pro mid laners with my friend, and he mentioned mmy from dk used to be the greatest mid (even better at his peak than anyone today). Now I started dota 2 beta around ti2 and never played/watched dota 1. Is this true? Why'd he go to a support role if he was so beast at mid? Just curious


Obviously not. Your friend is referring back to the EHOME of 2010. MMY played as X!! that year and was mid for EHOME that featured 820 (retired) 357 (now named QQQ) KingJ and Burning. He dominated the Western teams simply because the rest of the field was not up to par. I would say that the west has only caught up in terms of skill with the Chinese teams last year. If MMY played mid now (or even in his 2010 form) he'd get wrecked.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
April 05 2014 08:17 GMT
#101911
On April 05 2014 16:01 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 08:45 rysecake wrote:
so, I was discussing pro mid laners with my friend, and he mentioned mmy from dk used to be the greatest mid (even better at his peak than anyone today). Now I started dota 2 beta around ti2 and never played/watched dota 1. Is this true? Why'd he go to a support role if he was so beast at mid? Just curious


Obviously not. Your friend is referring back to the EHOME of 2010. MMY played as X!! that year and was mid for EHOME that featured 820 (retired) 357 (now named QQQ) KingJ and Burning. He dominated the Western teams simply because the rest of the field was not up to par. I would say that the west has only caught up in terms of skill with the Chinese teams last year. If MMY played mid now (or even in his 2010 form) he'd get wrecked.

its not fair to compare his form from 2010 to the mid players now. the playstyle was very different back then
FTD
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
April 05 2014 08:21 GMT
#101912
mid with bottle crowing and smokes is a completely different game than mid in 2010
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
April 05 2014 08:28 GMT
#101913
anyone in every sport ever played who had his primes years ago is always worse than the current elite. doesnt matter what you look at, people get better all the time.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
April 05 2014 09:53 GMT
#101914
On April 05 2014 17:28 hfglgg wrote:
anyone in every sport ever played who had his primes years ago is always worse than the current elite. doesnt matter what you look at, people get better all the time.

That's not entirely true. There have been and are world records that have held up for years. If Jan Zelezny in his prime competed with today's javelin throwers, he would be head and shoulders above all of them. Bob Beamon's world record long jump held for 23 years. That's just two examples from the top of my head.
super gg
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
April 05 2014 09:59 GMT
#101915
Yeah but Jan Zelezny is a god. He can throw a Javelin longer than the length of a Football field
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hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
April 05 2014 10:00 GMT
#101916
On April 05 2014 18:53 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 17:28 hfglgg wrote:
anyone in every sport ever played who had his primes years ago is always worse than the current elite. doesnt matter what you look at, people get better all the time.

That's not entirely true. There have been and are world records that have held up for years. If Jan Zelezny in his prime competed with today's javelin throwers, he would be head and shoulders above all of them. Bob Beamon's world record long jump held for 23 years. That's just two examples from the top of my head.


its a bit different for exceptional once-a-lifetime records and there might be the odd man out who was indeed ahead of his time, but in general everything gets better all the time.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
April 05 2014 10:06 GMT
#101917
Boxer is a good example. In the last days of his BW career he was probably 100x more skilled than he was when he won all his WCG's, but he still wasn't even close to competing with Flash/Jaedong/others.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
April 05 2014 11:52 GMT
#101918
On April 05 2014 19:06 TheEmulator wrote:
Boxer is a good example. In the last days of his BW career he was probably 100x more skilled than he was when he won all his WCG's, but he still wasn't even close to competing with Flash/Jaedong/others.

Exactly the example I was thinking of
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-05 12:20:53
April 05 2014 12:19 GMT
#101919
I'm in a game where our weaver got rapier first, got killed, I picked it up and cant use it. Did they change rapier mechanics? Oo

And i was able to give it back
But does it djent?
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
April 05 2014 12:20 GMT
#101920
An enemy needs to pick up rapier for it be fully unlocked
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
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