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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
April 03 2014 19:08 GMT
#101641
I agree with comeh, it's perfect
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 03 2014 19:08 GMT
#101642
just follow ixmike then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
April 03 2014 19:58 GMT
#101643
I also agree with comeh. bst pstn awhi;l
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 20:03:09
April 03 2014 20:01 GMT
#101644
On April 04 2014 03:04 Jukei wrote:
It's kinda trolly, but I like jakiro in the offlane. You destroy most dual lanes and weak trilanes. Max liquid fire and watch them burn.


How do you prevent the enemy team from just diving you? Is it just the threat of ice path?

On April 04 2014 03:04 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 03:00 Shaella wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:58 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:46 Shaella wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:44 Comeh wrote:
I've concluded that I can no longer first pick a hero in AP. Especially Storm spirit - auto Doom Nyx etc etc always happen.

Makes this game pretty hard yo

just pick spirit breaker


Enemy team pick Bane, slit wrists.

>people picking supports
>in solo que

haha

I actually love picking rubick against SB.

Unless the SB is a baller and picks up a Shadow Blade, then I'm screwed.


Disruptor against SB is also hilarious.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 03 2014 20:02 GMT
#101645
Jakiro also has really good base strength/armor and strength gain for a support, but yeah he should just feed if he's offlane.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
April 03 2014 20:12 GMT
#101646
My allies have been with it and strategically sound lately. Is there something wrong? Did I accidentally install a different version of DOTA?

I mean, for God's sake, some of them even understand the concept of "teamwork!"
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 03 2014 20:28 GMT
#101647
On April 04 2014 05:01 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 03:04 Jukei wrote:
It's kinda trolly, but I like jakiro in the offlane. You destroy most dual lanes and weak trilanes. Max liquid fire and watch them burn.


How do you prevent the enemy team from just diving you? Is it just the threat of ice path?

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 03:04 Comeh wrote:
On April 04 2014 03:00 Shaella wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:58 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:46 Shaella wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:44 Comeh wrote:
I've concluded that I can no longer first pick a hero in AP. Especially Storm spirit - auto Doom Nyx etc etc always happen.

Makes this game pretty hard yo

just pick spirit breaker


Enemy team pick Bane, slit wrists.

>people picking supports
>in solo que

haha

I actually love picking rubick against SB.

Unless the SB is a baller and picks up a Shadow Blade, then I'm screwed.


Disruptor against SB is also hilarious.

I'm telling you, Bane is where it is at. SB charges in, connects with a hero, cues his ult, then......nap time.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
April 03 2014 20:31 GMT
#101648
On April 04 2014 05:28 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 05:01 Logo wrote:
On April 04 2014 03:04 Jukei wrote:
It's kinda trolly, but I like jakiro in the offlane. You destroy most dual lanes and weak trilanes. Max liquid fire and watch them burn.


How do you prevent the enemy team from just diving you? Is it just the threat of ice path?

On April 04 2014 03:04 Comeh wrote:
On April 04 2014 03:00 Shaella wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:58 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:46 Shaella wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:44 Comeh wrote:
I've concluded that I can no longer first pick a hero in AP. Especially Storm spirit - auto Doom Nyx etc etc always happen.

Makes this game pretty hard yo

just pick spirit breaker


Enemy team pick Bane, slit wrists.

>people picking supports
>in solo que

haha

I actually love picking rubick against SB.

Unless the SB is a baller and picks up a Shadow Blade, then I'm screwed.


Disruptor against SB is also hilarious.

I'm telling you, Bane is where it is at. SB charges in, connects with a hero, cues his ult, then......nap time.


Does not compete with high speed SB vs Rubick chase scenes, complete with enough time to type "So... where we goin?" in all chat as you charge after the SB towards wherever the fuck AND does not compete with letting SB charge hit, letting him queue up his ult, lifting him stealing his ult and then mashbashing him in the face with it.
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
njt7
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden769 Posts
April 03 2014 20:31 GMT
#101649
Dont worry it will pass. People are all for positivity and teamwork as long as you are winning.
"All the casters who flamed me ever for anything."
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 20:36:49
April 03 2014 20:35 GMT
#101650
I don't think there's any skill more essential to success in pub dota than knowing how to lane shit. Like, when that guy last-picks PA into a lineup with three cores already, knowing how to make your lanes work best is basically the difference between getting stomped and not.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
April 03 2014 21:09 GMT
#101651
Just played a game on Invoker with 1.2s ping 90% of the game.
Thanks for carrying me Alchemist. :3
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Jukei
Profile Joined August 2011
France114 Posts
April 03 2014 21:25 GMT
#101652
On April 04 2014 05:01 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 03:04 Jukei wrote:
It's kinda trolly, but I like jakiro in the offlane. You destroy most dual lanes and weak trilanes. Max liquid fire and watch them burn.


How do you prevent the enemy team from just diving you? Is it just the threat of ice path?

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 03:04 Comeh wrote:
On April 04 2014 03:00 Shaella wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:58 Plansix wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:46 Shaella wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:44 Comeh wrote:
I've concluded that I can no longer first pick a hero in AP. Especially Storm spirit - auto Doom Nyx etc etc always happen.

Makes this game pretty hard yo

just pick spirit breaker


Enemy team pick Bane, slit wrists.

>people picking supports
>in solo que

haha

I actually love picking rubick against SB.

Unless the SB is a baller and picks up a Shadow Blade, then I'm screwed.


Disruptor against SB is also hilarious.


To be frank I only ever tried jaki offlane while playing with friends, so vs opponents that are supposedly worse than me. It was kind of a joke post. But still, I wanted to point out how very strong liquid fire is whether while pushing or in the laning phase, and it's a skill that is often overlooked. Normally you would prefer maxing his team fighting spells earlier if you're playing support, but in the offlane you should max it.

Basically you survive the offlane by playing defensive the first few levels with boots first, but get liquid fire lvl 1 and manfight if the support wants to zone you and the carry isn't able to help, and then take over the lane through sheer harrass with glorious fire dmg.

I guess you play it kinda like phoenix except you dont have icarus dive to fall back on, but your harrass/tankiness is a little higher early on.

Try it sometime on a non-ranked game if you want, it's quite fun.

TL;DR : liquid fire = OP skill on a not so good hero.
On the highest throne in the world, you only sit on your ass.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 03 2014 21:27 GMT
#101653
Dats why u fp liquid fire in AD (at least if ur a melee hero in need of an orb).
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
April 03 2014 21:29 GMT
#101654
On April 04 2014 06:27 Sn0_Man wrote:
Dats why u fp liquid fire in AD (at least if ur a melee hero in need of an orb).


the cd makes it shit tier compared to all the other orbs though
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 03 2014 21:29 GMT
#101655
xcept compared to OD orb.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 21:32:33
April 03 2014 21:32 GMT
#101656
It's probally still better than Glaives and sometimes even Poison Attack, because the effect is so much better and Poison Attack costs too much mana depending on the hero. If you are mid you level fast enough that the CD isn't a huge deal.
calippo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2525 Posts
April 03 2014 21:45 GMT
#101657
Clockwerk announcer!!!!!! Hope they didnt fail with it
in it for the game not for the .... - PMS Army. [WUFC-SDK. VIM. PMS]
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-03 22:09:53
April 03 2014 22:07 GMT
#101658
On April 04 2014 06:32 SKC wrote:
It's probally still better than Glaives and sometimes even Poison Attack, because the effect is so much better and Poison Attack costs too much mana depending on the hero. If you are mid you level fast enough that the CD isn't a huge deal.

Glaives is 600 attack range and only needs to be leveled once (meaning it doesn't interfere with leveling your nukes). Liquid Fire is 400 attack range and needs to be maxed to be really strong.

It's pretty questionable to me that you'd consider Liquid Fire better. Especially in AD, where most of the work of winning the game is done by 3+ nuke heroes and having to commit to leveling a non-nuke skill hurts your strength a lot.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 03 2014 22:11 GMT
#101659
Poison attack is strong on melee heroes because it is spammable ranged orb harass that just happens to slow as well

I had Glaives on Dark Seer once tho

that was disgusting.
WriterXiao8~~
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 03 2014 22:11 GMT
#101660
unless u can get ur hands on napalm. then dot is king
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
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