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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 31 2014 21:32 GMT
#101101
On April 01 2014 06:27 hariooo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 05:10 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2014 05:05 Daozzt wrote:
EE's actually the most successful NA carry player ever.

That's like being the most successful US soccer team. Color me unimpressed.

On April 01 2014 05:10 teddyoojo wrote:
u guys have all no idea what ur talking about envys one of the best players right now


He is a very talented player, but he has a long way to go before he gets to Dendi, puppy or burning.

If I had a choice on who to have on a team, I would take fear over EE every day. I'll take a strong leader over a talented diva.


And this post is why you can't take random internet assessments of pro players too seriously.

All the "kick EE" nonsense makes about as much sense as kicking xboct off Navi, which was a popular thing to say before TI2 AND TI3. He contributes to the team winning. That's all that matters.

I never said to kick him, only that he has a long way to go when I put him up against more seasoned players. There are other teams like Empire, Alliance and Navi that are just doing better then them and winning more. That means there is room for improvement.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 31 2014 21:34 GMT
#101102
On April 01 2014 06:13 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 05:55 trifecta wrote:
Is anyone besides Puppey in the Drafter's Hall of Fame?

I'm unsure if such a thing officially exists but if so Goblak is a solid candidate.

no
terrible linear drafts are not worthy for hall of fame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
March 31 2014 21:34 GMT
#101103
EE won MLG with blinkz strategy, he is the true c9 napoleon.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-31 21:35:17
March 31 2014 21:34 GMT
#101104
Innovation yo
was @grouchyrasme
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 31 2014 21:36 GMT
#101105
EE's stream is great to watch.
WriterXiao8~~
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
March 31 2014 21:36 GMT
#101106
On April 01 2014 06:32 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 06:27 hariooo wrote:
On April 01 2014 05:10 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2014 05:05 Daozzt wrote:
EE's actually the most successful NA carry player ever.

That's like being the most successful US soccer team. Color me unimpressed.

On April 01 2014 05:10 teddyoojo wrote:
u guys have all no idea what ur talking about envys one of the best players right now


He is a very talented player, but he has a long way to go before he gets to Dendi, puppy or burning.

If I had a choice on who to have on a team, I would take fear over EE every day. I'll take a strong leader over a talented diva.


And this post is why you can't take random internet assessments of pro players too seriously.

All the "kick EE" nonsense makes about as much sense as kicking xboct off Navi, which was a popular thing to say before TI2 AND TI3. He contributes to the team winning. That's all that matters.

I never said to kick him, only that he has a long way to go when I put him up against more seasoned players. There are other teams like Empire, Alliance and Navi that are just doing better then them and winning more. That means there is room for improvement.


C9: Finals of every lan they attend, winners of MLG.

Empire: Hasn't won anything.

Damn man, you really are blinded by hate.
secret - never again
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
March 31 2014 21:39 GMT
#101107
On April 01 2014 06:32 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 06:27 hariooo wrote:
On April 01 2014 05:10 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2014 05:05 Daozzt wrote:
EE's actually the most successful NA carry player ever.

That's like being the most successful US soccer team. Color me unimpressed.

On April 01 2014 05:10 teddyoojo wrote:
u guys have all no idea what ur talking about envys one of the best players right now


He is a very talented player, but he has a long way to go before he gets to Dendi, puppy or burning.

If I had a choice on who to have on a team, I would take fear over EE every day. I'll take a strong leader over a talented diva.


And this post is why you can't take random internet assessments of pro players too seriously.

All the "kick EE" nonsense makes about as much sense as kicking xboct off Navi, which was a popular thing to say before TI2 AND TI3. He contributes to the team winning. That's all that matters.

I never said to kick him, only that he has a long way to go when I put him up against more seasoned players. There are other teams like Empire, Alliance and Navi that are just doing better then them and winning more. That means there is room for improvement.


And I didn't say you did.

You're the one who compared him to "more seasoned player" Fear of all people and not even for the right reasons.

Not to mention C9 literally just beat Empire in a bo5 on Europe servers yesterday.

Not that EE couldn't improve, since you know everyone can still improve but EE gets completely disproportionate criticism for his performance. Maybe he brings it on himself due to his weird ass personality but at some point you have to start respecting results.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 31 2014 21:40 GMT
#101108
The results of booting EE are pretty impressive actually. Small sample size, but great results.

huehuehue
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bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
March 31 2014 21:45 GMT
#101109
On April 01 2014 06:32 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 06:27 hariooo wrote:
On April 01 2014 05:10 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2014 05:05 Daozzt wrote:
EE's actually the most successful NA carry player ever.

That's like being the most successful US soccer team. Color me unimpressed.

On April 01 2014 05:10 teddyoojo wrote:
u guys have all no idea what ur talking about envys one of the best players right now


He is a very talented player, but he has a long way to go before he gets to Dendi, puppy or burning.

If I had a choice on who to have on a team, I would take fear over EE every day. I'll take a strong leader over a talented diva.


And this post is why you can't take random internet assessments of pro players too seriously.

All the "kick EE" nonsense makes about as much sense as kicking xboct off Navi, which was a popular thing to say before TI2 AND TI3. He contributes to the team winning. That's all that matters.

I never said to kick him, only that he has a long way to go when I put him up against more seasoned players. There are other teams like Empire, Alliance and Navi that are just doing better then them and winning more. That means there is room for improvement.


Who are the better western carries right now? Loda? Fear?(we all saw how his team was without RTZ and a real captain/drafter)

can't really think of any other player I would definitely choose over EE. What do you define as "seasoned"?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-31 21:58:59
March 31 2014 21:55 GMT
#101110
Loda would be a season carry that has far more accomplishments under his belt. Fear could do better and I can't say he has better results.

Look guys I'm sorry, I don't think EE is NA dota Jesus. I respect his talent, but he hasn't done anything to make me want to cheer for him.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
March 31 2014 21:55 GMT
#101111
On April 01 2014 06:45 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 06:32 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2014 06:27 hariooo wrote:
On April 01 2014 05:10 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2014 05:05 Daozzt wrote:
EE's actually the most successful NA carry player ever.

That's like being the most successful US soccer team. Color me unimpressed.

On April 01 2014 05:10 teddyoojo wrote:
u guys have all no idea what ur talking about envys one of the best players right now


He is a very talented player, but he has a long way to go before he gets to Dendi, puppy or burning.

If I had a choice on who to have on a team, I would take fear over EE every day. I'll take a strong leader over a talented diva.


And this post is why you can't take random internet assessments of pro players too seriously.

All the "kick EE" nonsense makes about as much sense as kicking xboct off Navi, which was a popular thing to say before TI2 AND TI3. He contributes to the team winning. That's all that matters.

I never said to kick him, only that he has a long way to go when I put him up against more seasoned players. There are other teams like Empire, Alliance and Navi that are just doing better then them and winning more. That means there is room for improvement.


Who are the better western carries right now? Loda? Fear?(we all saw how his team was without RTZ and a real captain/drafter)

can't really think of any other player I would definitely choose over EE. What do you define as "seasoned"?


Sneyking
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 31 2014 21:56 GMT
#101112
On April 01 2014 06:55 Plansix wrote:
Load would be a season carry that has far more accomplishments under his belt. Fear could do better and I can't say he has better results.

Look guys I'm sorry, I don't think EE is NA dota Jesus. I respect his talent, but he hasn't done anything to make me want to cheer for him.

he really is world dota jesus
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 31 2014 21:57 GMT
#101113
Best carry in the West is Xboct. Easily.

EE gets way too much hate. Kind of understandable when you're a bit of an unusual player though.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-31 22:01:21
March 31 2014 22:00 GMT
#101114
On April 01 2014 06:55 Plansix wrote:
Loda would be a season carry that has far more accomplishments under his belt. Fear could do better and I can't say he has better results.

Look guys I'm sorry, I don't think EE is NA dota Jesus. I respect his talent, but he hasn't done anything to make me want to cheer for him.


On April 01 2014 05:10 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 05:05 Daozzt wrote:
EE's actually the most successful NA carry player ever.

That's like being the most successful US soccer team. Color me unimpressed.


"I respect his talent". Okay... At this point you might as well just say something and stick with it.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 31 2014 22:01 GMT
#101115
Doesn't warrent you but he warrants a lot of respect from me

Guy gets kicked from his team and instead of moping and quitting he makes a new team and wins MLG

good stuff.
WriterXiao8~~
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 31 2014 22:02 GMT
#101116
aand dota network down
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 31 2014 22:03 GMT
#101117
On April 01 2014 07:00 hariooo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 06:55 Plansix wrote:
Loda would be a season carry that has far more accomplishments under his belt. Fear could do better and I can't say he has better results.

Look guys I'm sorry, I don't think EE is NA dota Jesus. I respect his talent, but he hasn't done anything to make me want to cheer for him.


Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 05:10 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2014 05:05 Daozzt wrote:
EE's actually the most successful NA carry player ever.

That's like being the most successful US soccer team. Color me unimpressed.


"I respect his talent". Okay... At this point you might as well just say something and stick with it.

Talent does not mean I think he is the best player out there. It just means I don't think he sucks
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
March 31 2014 22:07 GMT
#101118
On April 01 2014 07:03 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 07:00 hariooo wrote:
On April 01 2014 06:55 Plansix wrote:
Loda would be a season carry that has far more accomplishments under his belt. Fear could do better and I can't say he has better results.

Look guys I'm sorry, I don't think EE is NA dota Jesus. I respect his talent, but he hasn't done anything to make me want to cheer for him.


On April 01 2014 05:10 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2014 05:05 Daozzt wrote:
EE's actually the most successful NA carry player ever.

That's like being the most successful US soccer team. Color me unimpressed.


"I respect his talent". Okay... At this point you might as well just say something and stick with it.

Talent does not mean I think he is the best player out there. It just means I don't think he sucks


On April 01 2014 04:58 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 04:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
EE's a great player to have on ur team in the abstract but not a great player to be on ur team in game.

Truth. He is good in theory, but is in practice kind of the worse.


Stick with something.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-31 22:14:15
March 31 2014 22:13 GMT
#101119
On April 01 2014 07:07 hariooo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 07:03 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2014 07:00 hariooo wrote:
On April 01 2014 06:55 Plansix wrote:
Loda would be a season carry that has far more accomplishments under his belt. Fear could do better and I can't say he has better results.

Look guys I'm sorry, I don't think EE is NA dota Jesus. I respect his talent, but he hasn't done anything to make me want to cheer for him.


On April 01 2014 05:10 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2014 05:05 Daozzt wrote:
EE's actually the most successful NA carry player ever.

That's like being the most successful US soccer team. Color me unimpressed.


"I respect his talent". Okay... At this point you might as well just say something and stick with it.

Talent does not mean I think he is the best player out there. It just means I don't think he sucks


Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 04:58 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2014 04:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
EE's a great player to have on ur team in the abstract but not a great player to be on ur team in game.

Truth. He is good in theory, but is in practice kind of the worse.


Stick with something.

Oh come on, that was in reference to his stream. He is the fucking worst on his stream. I watched him throw a hissy fit after being ganked, dropped all his items and right clicked them. He them charged to lane and died over and over.

Literally the worst.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
March 31 2014 22:14 GMT
#101120
I would easily say EE is the most motivated player.
His personality makes me cringe to the point where I want to gouge out my eyes and ears, but it somehow works out.

Look at SingSing on the other hand. He had several teams with good players and full of normal people, and all we ever heard was that these normal were too lazy to train and couldn't handle criticism and similar stuff.
Now SingSing is in the same team as EE and it works out.

I bet EE has one of the thickest skins in gaming history.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
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