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Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
March 31 2014 22:16 GMT
#101121
On April 01 2014 07:01 Kipsate wrote:
Doesn't warrent you but he warrants a lot of respect from me

Guy gets kicked from his team and instead of moping and quitting he makes a new team and wins MLG

good stuff.

My thoughts. He's a fearful player.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
March 31 2014 22:19 GMT
#101122
I feel bad even when i randomed lycan -_- 'why your towers so weak' i said. they were mad.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
March 31 2014 22:20 GMT
#101123
On April 01 2014 06:55 Daozzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 06:45 bagels21 wrote:
On April 01 2014 06:32 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2014 06:27 hariooo wrote:
On April 01 2014 05:10 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2014 05:05 Daozzt wrote:
EE's actually the most successful NA carry player ever.

That's like being the most successful US soccer team. Color me unimpressed.

On April 01 2014 05:10 teddyoojo wrote:
u guys have all no idea what ur talking about envys one of the best players right now


He is a very talented player, but he has a long way to go before he gets to Dendi, puppy or burning.

If I had a choice on who to have on a team, I would take fear over EE every day. I'll take a strong leader over a talented diva.


And this post is why you can't take random internet assessments of pro players too seriously.

All the "kick EE" nonsense makes about as much sense as kicking xboct off Navi, which was a popular thing to say before TI2 AND TI3. He contributes to the team winning. That's all that matters.

I never said to kick him, only that he has a long way to go when I put him up against more seasoned players. There are other teams like Empire, Alliance and Navi that are just doing better then them and winning more. That means there is room for improvement.


Who are the better western carries right now? Loda? Fear?(we all saw how his team was without RTZ and a real captain/drafter)

can't really think of any other player I would definitely choose over EE. What do you define as "seasoned"?


Sneyking


lmao you watching the TL vs. RVG series right now?

Sney at the 1 position is not impressive
Silence_
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2 Posts
March 31 2014 22:21 GMT
#101124
On April 01 2014 07:19 BurningSera wrote:
I feel bad even when i randomed lycan -_- 'why your towers so weak' i said. they were mad.


A bit ago my team randomed lycan twice in a row, it does make you almost feel bad.
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
March 31 2014 22:23 GMT
#101125
On April 01 2014 07:13 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 07:07 hariooo wrote:
On April 01 2014 07:03 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2014 07:00 hariooo wrote:
On April 01 2014 06:55 Plansix wrote:
Loda would be a season carry that has far more accomplishments under his belt. Fear could do better and I can't say he has better results.

Look guys I'm sorry, I don't think EE is NA dota Jesus. I respect his talent, but he hasn't done anything to make me want to cheer for him.


On April 01 2014 05:10 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2014 05:05 Daozzt wrote:
EE's actually the most successful NA carry player ever.

That's like being the most successful US soccer team. Color me unimpressed.


"I respect his talent". Okay... At this point you might as well just say something and stick with it.

Talent does not mean I think he is the best player out there. It just means I don't think he sucks


On April 01 2014 04:58 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2014 04:39 Sn0_Man wrote:
EE's a great player to have on ur team in the abstract but not a great player to be on ur team in game.

Truth. He is good in theory, but is in practice kind of the worse.


Stick with something.

Oh come on, that was in reference to his stream. He is the fucking worst on his stream. I watched him throw a hissy fit after being ganked, dropped all his items and right clicked them. He them charged to lane and died over and over.

Literally the worst.


It's not like we haven't seen Dendi grief on stream before?
Plenty of pros have done douchey shit on stream. Not everyone is AUI lol
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-31 22:26:16
March 31 2014 22:25 GMT
#101126
Ahh the old "US guy saying US Player is better, EU guy saying EU player is better"
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
March 31 2014 22:26 GMT
#101127
On April 01 2014 06:55 Plansix wrote:
Loda would be a season carry that has far more accomplishments under his belt. Fear could do better and I can't say he has better results.

Look guys I'm sorry, I don't think EE is NA dota Jesus. I respect his talent, but he hasn't done anything to make me want to cheer for him.

Don't have to, can't be a fan of every team/player. Don't have to like his stream either, not every player appeal to every fan.

You know people said Loda was awful for a long time and that his time was over etc? (around TI2)
And the whole Xboct 4 thing and what not.

EE is really good and definitely up there as one of the best carries.
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Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
March 31 2014 22:38 GMT
#101128
On April 01 2014 07:20 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 06:55 Daozzt wrote:
On April 01 2014 06:45 bagels21 wrote:
On April 01 2014 06:32 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2014 06:27 hariooo wrote:
On April 01 2014 05:10 Plansix wrote:
On April 01 2014 05:05 Daozzt wrote:
EE's actually the most successful NA carry player ever.

That's like being the most successful US soccer team. Color me unimpressed.

On April 01 2014 05:10 teddyoojo wrote:
u guys have all no idea what ur talking about envys one of the best players right now


He is a very talented player, but he has a long way to go before he gets to Dendi, puppy or burning.

If I had a choice on who to have on a team, I would take fear over EE every day. I'll take a strong leader over a talented diva.


And this post is why you can't take random internet assessments of pro players too seriously.

All the "kick EE" nonsense makes about as much sense as kicking xboct off Navi, which was a popular thing to say before TI2 AND TI3. He contributes to the team winning. That's all that matters.

I never said to kick him, only that he has a long way to go when I put him up against more seasoned players. There are other teams like Empire, Alliance and Navi that are just doing better then them and winning more. That means there is room for improvement.


Who are the better western carries right now? Loda? Fear?(we all saw how his team was without RTZ and a real captain/drafter)

can't really think of any other player I would definitely choose over EE. What do you define as "seasoned"?


Sneyking


lmao you watching the TL vs. RVG series right now?

Sney at the 1 position is not impressive


I don't think you're giving a fair chance to The King.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 31 2014 22:42 GMT
#101129
i for one welcome our new german overlord
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
March 31 2014 22:43 GMT
#101130
On April 01 2014 07:25 Yoshi- wrote:
Ahh the old "US guy saying US Player is better, EU guy saying EU player is better"

Dunno, I didn't look that hard, but I think the guys criticizing EE are american while the guys defending him have no countries enabled or are european.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-31 22:52:03
March 31 2014 22:44 GMT
#101131
Yea to be honest I am not really paying attention to most of these discussions.

To be totally honest I don't even know who EE is
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-31 22:52:16
March 31 2014 22:48 GMT
#101132
On April 01 2014 07:26 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 06:55 Plansix wrote:
Loda would be a season carry that has far more accomplishments under his belt. Fear could do better and I can't say he has better results.

Look guys I'm sorry, I don't think EE is NA dota Jesus. I respect his talent, but he hasn't done anything to make me want to cheer for him.

Don't have to, can't be a fan of every team/player. Don't have to like his stream either, not every player appeal to every fan.

You know people said Loda was awful for a long time and that his time was over etc? (around TI2)
And the whole Xboct 4 thing and what not.

EE is really good and definitely up there as one of the best carries.

I think the most egregious thing Plansix said is he would take fear for his 'leadership' abilities. I think Fear without a doubt is a better carry than EE, but fear's 'leadership' is probably his worst aspect. He fucked around for YEARS carrying around dead weight and building garbo teams while getting very little out of the players he recruited. It's only been since Fear let go of the 'leadership/captain' role have EG had any meaningful results.

As I said before, I think Fear is the better player but I think EE is a way better leader. Granted PLD is technically the captain for c9, EE has a history of being so goddamn tryhard, that he gets incredible performance out of his teammates and overall drafts (strategically, not in-game) really interesting ideas for his teams to work with. I think the way EE approaches the competitive aspect of the game spills over and makes his teammates want to be just as tryhard to match EE's intensity.

just my 2c.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 31 2014 22:50 GMT
#101133
It's at least pretty absurd to say EE had a more sucessful Dota career than Fear at this point.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
March 31 2014 22:54 GMT
#101134
If i must choose who wins ti4 at this moment it would be c9. the only reason i say this is, is that they are the only team that recently introduced strategies in important games like semi's and finals. They engineer strats for important games, that alone says to me that betting on c9 with EE is never a bad gamble
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 31 2014 22:57 GMT
#101135
thats not how you spell empire tho
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
March 31 2014 22:58 GMT
#101136
So when c9 engineers their strats what do the others team do?
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 31 2014 22:59 GMT
#101137
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THE FUN ENDS HERE
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 31 2014 23:00 GMT
#101138
It's April 1st, keep that in mind, people.
super gg
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
March 31 2014 23:02 GMT
#101139
On April 01 2014 07:58 Yoshi- wrote:
So when c9 engineers their strats what do the others team do?


To me it looks like most drafts are based on the patchnumber, not on idea's of themselves. That c9 dared that to show there bnew strat in a semi and a final is admireable.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 31 2014 23:02 GMT
#101140
On April 01 2014 07:50 SKC wrote:
It's at least pretty absurd to say EE had a more sucessful Dota career than Fear at this point.

I didn't say he did. I just like him more and think he is a good player. I have always been inspired by how hard he works. Me saying he was a good leader was off mark and that was incorrect. I just like his attitude more.

I've cheered for the Red Sox for over 20 years. Winning and success don't really factor into me being a fan of anyone or anything.
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