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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
March 31 2014 08:59 GMT
#101001
it would help broodmother's case if her spiderlings had some marginally better magic resistance similar to how lycan's wolves got buffed.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-31 09:34:16
March 31 2014 09:24 GMT
#101002
The previous Brood was absolutely obnoxious. Icefrog was messing with the engine and when he gets bored (by playing against brood in mm or people's whining) he just abandoned brood since the latest patch. As a summoner type hero (riot pls), brood is the only one who can produce overwhelming amount of summoned units (without spending big gold on refresh) so the hero is fundamentally broken in the first place (little micro extremely high reward).

If you limited the amount of spiderlings then you take away the 'fun' (or unique) part of the hero; if you made the spiderlings weaker (1 rubick's bolt to kill all spiderlings? lol) or stronger you break the hero (as if she is not a huge opportunistic pusher already).

Remove her from the game (might as well since i bet not even bamboe wants to play that shit) or make her web gives bigger aoe that 4 webs will cover 80% of the map so she can be a (legit) split pusher or global-ish support or join-team-fight-in-time brood (just gives her faster ms in web).

There i even draw it out. Just make it lvl1 = 1 web etc. Only 20% of the map is not covered under my professional paint skill.
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is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Gowerly
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom916 Posts
March 31 2014 09:29 GMT
#101003
On March 31 2014 17:41 Kuroeeah wrote:
means liquid'moonmeander.

I would jettison myself into space.
I will reduce you to a series of numbers.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
March 31 2014 09:30 GMT
#101004
On March 31 2014 18:24 BurningSera wrote:
The previous Brood was absolutely obnoxious. Icefrog was messing with the engine and when he gets bored (by playing against brood in mm or people's whining) he just abandoned brood since the latest patch. As a summoner type hero (riot pls), brood is the only one who can produce overwhelming amount of summoned units (without spending big gold on refresh) so the hero is fundamentally broken in the first place (little micro high reward).

If you limited the amount of spiderlings then you take away the 'fun' (or unique) part of the hero; if you made the spiderlings weaker (1 rubick's bolt to kill all spiderlings? lol) or stronger you break the hero (as if she is not a huge opportunist pusher already).

Remove her from the game (might as well since i bet not even bamboe wants to play that shit) or make her web gives bigger aoe that 4 webs will cover 80% of the map so she can be a (legit) split pusher or global-ish support or join-team-fight-in-time brood (just gives her faster ms in web).


Or just redo the last 3 patches on her and make her into the old broodmother. At the very least she was picked sometimes, even in progames.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
March 31 2014 09:31 GMT
#101005
Meepo is apparently RTZ's kryptonite.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 31 2014 09:35 GMT
#101006
On March 31 2014 18:24 BurningSera wrote:
The previous Brood was absolutely obnoxious. Icefrog was messing with the engine and when he gets bored (by playing against brood in mm or people's whining) he just abandoned brood since the latest patch. As a summoner type hero (riot pls), brood is the only one who can produce overwhelming amount of summoned units (without spending big gold on refresh) so the hero is fundamentally broken in the first place (very little micro high reward).

If you limited the amount of spiderlings then you take away the 'fun' (or unique) part of the hero; if you made the spiderlings weaker (1 rubick's bolt to kill all spiderlings? lol) or stronger you break the hero (as if she is not a huge opportunist pusher already).

Remove her from the game (might as well since i bet not even bamboe wants to play that shit) or make her web gives bigger aoe that 4 webs will cover 80% of the map so she can be a (legit) split pusher or global-ish support or join-team-fight-in-time brood (just gives her faster ms in web).

There i even draw it out. Just make it lvl1 = 1 web etc. Only 20% of the map is not covered under my professional paint skill.
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there's also the fact that microing broodmother spiderlings is generally very unrewarding where chen micro is incredibly powerful.

I'd rather BM spiderlings function more like wolves (kinda like ember spirits do for invoker), and have her abilities focused aroudn that sort of splitpushingness still
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
March 31 2014 09:39 GMT
#101007
On March 31 2014 17:37 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 17:18 hariooo wrote:
Ember is frail enough to die within the duration of a single duration throughout the entire game. Someone like Storm or AM usually have the durability to tank through just due to the items they buy. You don't need to stack stuns on Ember or any silly shit like that, just get your dedicated right-clicker on him for 2-3 seconds when he's disabled and that's it.

I think it's quite easy for a coordinated team (or even a single hero if you're someone like Tinker/Storm) to ensure that Ember gets off no more than a single SoF, which simply isn't enough contribution to win a fight.

To be it's like saying that a farmed OD is unstoppable because Refresher Sanity's Eclipse basically one-shots entire teams. Or if you arrive at a point in the game where you can't deal with tanky PL illusions constantly sieging you at no risk to the main hero. Yeah it's true if you don't have the farm, lineup, or coordination to counterplay.

unlike Ember, OD can't just across the map in a moments notice


I'm pretty sure the shiny red thing is giving due notice.

You might as well delete 6slot EBlade Dagon Tinker from the game as well.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 31 2014 09:43 GMT
#101008
6slot eblade dagon tinker can't rape my whole team with crits with one skill, and be untargetable the whole time
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 31 2014 09:45 GMT
#101009
I kind of liked Bulldog's idea, giving her webs charges similar to Ember's and Earth's remnants. If you could tp into a fight and have the opportunity to drop 4 webs instantly could change her in a good way. Make her less one-dimensional and stuff...
super gg
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-31 09:46:08
March 31 2014 09:46 GMT
#101010
On March 31 2014 18:45 cecek wrote:
I kind of liked Bulldog's idea, giving her webs charges similar to Ember's and Earth's remnants. If you could tp into a fight and have the opportunity to drop 4 webs instantly could change her in a good way. Make her less one-dimensional and stuff...

that'd be soooo nice

you could actually

move around the map
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
March 31 2014 09:49 GMT
#101011
Lone Druid's animal companion is now modeled after a rat, comes with level 3 Necronomicon ability that both Lone Druid and his spirit rat can use simultaneously.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 31 2014 10:09 GMT
#101012
On March 31 2014 18:49 Kuroeeah wrote:
Lone Druid's animal companion is now modeled after a rat, comes with level 3 Necronomicon ability that both Lone Druid and his spirit rat can use simultaneously.

What?
super gg
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 31 2014 11:41 GMT
#101013
On March 31 2014 18:31 Kuroeeah wrote:
Meepo is apparently RTZ's kryptonite.

no its null talisman
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
March 31 2014 12:11 GMT
#101014
Got muted, well then i riki for 24h, raguuu uu u u u uu u everywhere
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 31 2014 12:32 GMT
#101015
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1weKszu6G5RbiTPGBSbvO_7SNHiX22huDooCbHCsVmlk/preview?sle=true
big fakenotes
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
March 31 2014 12:38 GMT
#101016
Wow fake patch notes for aprils fools, which comedic genius came up with that
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 31 2014 12:41 GMT
#101017
On March 31 2014 21:38 Yoshi- wrote:
Wow fake patch notes for aprils fools, which comedic genius came up with that

A most vacu[um]ous exercise.



OK that was rather forcing it.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
March 31 2014 12:50 GMT
#101018
On March 31 2014 18:45 cecek wrote:
I kind of liked Bulldog's idea, giving her webs charges similar to Ember's and Earth's remnants. If you could tp into a fight and have the opportunity to drop 4 webs instantly could change her in a good way. Make her less one-dimensional and stuff...

I've wanted this forever, Icefrog please.
rip
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
March 31 2014 13:03 GMT
#101019
On March 31 2014 21:38 Yoshi- wrote:
Wow fake patch notes for aprils fools, which comedic genius came up with that

Bruno. He changed his twitter photo to IceFrog's from PlayDota, then tweeted this changelog at Bulba asking what he thinks, later he deleted it claiming it was meant to be private. I bet he thinks he's the funniest guy in the world.
super gg
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 31 2014 13:19 GMT
#101020
Oh Bruno
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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