EPTWell he's certainly not hugely OP.
But if by "broken" you mean "unfun and needing a rework" then I can see where you're coming from. Personally I don't hate the hero but I can see why others would.
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
Well he's certainly not hugely OP. But if by "broken" you mean "unfun and needing a rework" then I can see where you're coming from. Personally I don't hate the hero but I can see why others would. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On March 31 2014 11:15 FuzzyJAM wrote: Well he's certainly not hugely OP. But if by "broken" you mean "unfun and needing a rework" then I can see where you're coming from. Personally I don't hate the hero but I can see why others would. he's good early game, good midgame, and good lategame fuck that hero, he has no power curve other than STRONGER THAN YOU and he's mobile as fuck too | ||
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Daozzt
United States1263 Posts
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On March 31 2014 11:17 Shaella wrote: he's good early game, good midgame, and good lategame fuck that hero, he has no power curve other than STRONGER THAN YOU and he's mobile as fuck too If he's so incredibly strong all game why does he have a losing record in pubs and a 51% win rate for pros? Edit: Having strengths is not the same as being strong. Ember is a slightly too good hero, and incredible in some ways, but he's not that that imbalanced because he also has clear weaknesses. Now, you can argue strengths + weaknesses = bad balance, but that's a different point to claiming he's just straight up too strong. | ||
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Daozzt
United States1263 Posts
On March 31 2014 11:21 FuzzyJAM wrote: If he's so incredibly strong all game why does he have a losing record in pubs and a 51% win rate for pros? Nice insight. Are you going to bring up pre-nerf earth spirit's pub win rate too? | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On March 31 2014 11:23 Daozzt wrote: Nice insight. Are you going to bring up pre-nerf earth spirit's pub win rate too? Did you miss the part where I brought up BOTH pub play and pro play? We knew that Earth Spirit was far too strong at top level play. We know that Ember is not far too strong at top level play. Pretty clear difference. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
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hariooo
Canada2830 Posts
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Ember's a lot stronger in pubs than he is in competitive. | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On March 31 2014 12:39 TheYango wrote: There's a difference between a hero that's strong in competitive and one that's strong in pubs. Ember's a lot stronger in pubs than he is in competitive. I think teams aren't picking correctly against ember, but I think he should be more considered a situational last pick compared to where we are now. But holy shit this hero in pubs is amazing. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
On March 31 2014 12:54 Firebolt145 wrote: Nerf QW Invoker, buff Ember Spirit. Your opinion is invalid. So shush. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 31 2014 12:54 Firebolt145 wrote: Nerf QW Invoker, buff Ember Spirit. Monster. Next thing you are going to want them to buff firebird. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Says the person who wants Broodmother buffed. | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
So shush | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
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Veles
United States3280 Posts
On March 31 2014 13:38 Shaella wrote: who doesn't want broodmother buffed, holy shit she's so bad now The issue with old bm and current phoenix is that they just win the offlane unless you pick around them. Its no fun when one hero can win 1v1/2/3 vs. 90% of the pool | ||
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