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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 01:12:54
March 06 2014 01:05 GMT
#97941
The list of Universal spells is pretty short though. Tinker can use March now but can't use Laser, so it's maybe a little better (rank 4 Laser used to one-shot rank 1 Familiars before, though, so I dunno). Midnight Pulse is hard to use to do meaningful damage to Familiars since it's percentage-based damage and Familiars have fairly low max HP. You're obviously not going to Doom Familiars. Warlock Golems and Echo Slam killing familiars is a nice bonus, but won't really change the dynamics of the heroes against Visage (Visage vs. Earthshaker is more likely to involve the Familiars trying to stop Shaker's Blink, so it's not likely that they're going to be in the Echo if he gets the Blink off).

The lack of Pure damage AoE probably means that Familiars are more likely to die incidentally in a fight now than they were before, but conversely means that they're harder to snipe because virtually all the of the Mixed and Universal damage spells are either high-value ultimates or over-time damage.

EDIT: Though since thus far, DotA 2 hasn't replicated DotA 1's flying/hovering unit mechanics, this means that Techies mines could potentially one-shot Familiars at all ranks.
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DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
March 06 2014 01:26 GMT
#97942
According to my unbiased and up-to-date source (Pokémon) ground based attacks shouldn't hit flying units. Your move Valve.
리노크 👑
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 01:39:28
March 06 2014 01:38 GMT
#97943
im looking forward to 5 years from now where there is twitchplayssdota2
15000 dudes 1 hero infinite possibilities etcetc

actually that account would probably go right into low priority right away huh
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
March 06 2014 01:39 GMT
#97944
15,000 dudes
1 hero
infinite possibilities

all trench
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
March 06 2014 03:54 GMT
#97945
On March 06 2014 10:05 TheYango wrote:
The list of Universal spells is pretty short though. Tinker can use March now but can't use Laser, so it's maybe a little better (rank 4 Laser used to one-shot rank 1 Familiars before, though, so I dunno). Midnight Pulse is hard to use to do meaningful damage to Familiars since it's percentage-based damage and Familiars have fairly low max HP. You're obviously not going to Doom Familiars. Warlock Golems and Echo Slam killing familiars is a nice bonus, but won't really change the dynamics of the heroes against Visage (Visage vs. Earthshaker is more likely to involve the Familiars trying to stop Shaker's Blink, so it's not likely that they're going to be in the Echo if he gets the Blink off).

The lack of Pure damage AoE probably means that Familiars are more likely to die incidentally in a fight now than they were before, but conversely means that they're harder to snipe because virtually all the of the Mixed and Universal damage spells are either high-value ultimates or over-time damage.

EDIT: Though since thus far, DotA 2 hasn't replicated DotA 1's flying/hovering unit mechanics, this means that Techies mines could potentially one-shot Familiars at all ranks.

Familiars die in 1-2 seconds in march making tinker an insane hero against visage because birds are only usable with very high limitations.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 06 2014 09:16 GMT
#97946
http://esportsexpress.com/2014/03/valves-ti4-host-decision-pleases-kacis-religious-followers/

esex. better than sex itself
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 06 2014 09:28 GMT
#97947
"Victoria's secret shop" LOL
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 06 2014 09:36 GMT
#97948
is there a certain joke with the left shoe
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 06 2014 09:41 GMT
#97949
banana for scale is the winner.
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 06 2014 10:08 GMT
#97950
i for one would pay much money for kaci announcer
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 13:08:29
March 06 2014 13:06 GMT
#97951
Godz being salty on twitter. Another chapter in the passive-aggressive BTS remarks towards joinDOTA. #drama

super gg
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
March 06 2014 13:14 GMT
#97952
Isn't it just dumb when a Casting studio doesn't want exclusivity?
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
March 06 2014 13:26 GMT
#97953
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 06 2014 13:30 GMT
#97954
Riot-levels of anti-competition
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 13:48:01
March 06 2014 13:41 GMT
#97955
That's some fucking weak drama.

Call me when Tobi gets involved, then it might get interesting.
Once you Goblak...
ScarPe
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany392 Posts
March 06 2014 13:43 GMT
#97956
On March 06 2014 09:58 Aui_2000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 09:48 TheYango wrote:
On March 06 2014 08:35 teddyoojo wrote:
i just found out beastmaster axes 1shot lvl1 visage birds...

That's a consequence of them being changed from having 96% Magic Resistance to being Magic Immune in 6.80. Mixed damage is reduced by magic resistance, but does damage through magic immunity.

It means that Familiars now take a lot more damage from Mixed damage sources (Beastmaster Axes, Leshrac's Edict, Alchemist's Acid Spray), but conversely are untargetable by Pure damage sources (Bane, PA, Enchantress, etc.). This is a large net buff because there are a lot more Pure damage sources in the game, and until Techies is in, Wild Axes are the only burst damage Mixed damage spell that can be used to snipe Familiars.


Also gets hurt from universal dmg like tinker march (!!) and midnight pulse. I think it's only better because people aren't picking anti familiar heroes even though visage is a first 2 pick.


so why would you only pick just to counter some1s hero?
this leads you a place where you dont have an own gameplan anymore.

i think the best way to deal with familiars is just to have like a lycan in your team,
that increases eveyones autoattack by a very high amount, so they get autoattacked down with 2 shots, even from the supports.
Awaken my child and embrace the glory that is your birthright. -[The Overmind]
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
March 06 2014 13:57 GMT
#97957
Theres like 3 different chinese streams casting it so idk why they gave the english cast exclusively to joindota.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 06 2014 14:16 GMT
#97958
On March 06 2014 22:41 teapoted wrote:
That's some fucking weak drama.

Call me when Tobi gets involved, then it might get interesting.

dont worry maelk did it for him


Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
March 06 2014 14:21 GMT
#97959
Still prefer BTS over joinDota in terms of casting.
Play your best
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 14:24:29
March 06 2014 14:23 GMT
#97960
Not doing it for me, that's just standard asshole Maelk. I need some more spice in my drama.
Once you Goblak...
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