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United States47024 Posts
The list of Universal spells is pretty short though. Tinker can use March now but can't use Laser, so it's maybe a little better (rank 4 Laser used to one-shot rank 1 Familiars before, though, so I dunno). Midnight Pulse is hard to use to do meaningful damage to Familiars since it's percentage-based damage and Familiars have fairly low max HP. You're obviously not going to Doom Familiars. Warlock Golems and Echo Slam killing familiars is a nice bonus, but won't really change the dynamics of the heroes against Visage (Visage vs. Earthshaker is more likely to involve the Familiars trying to stop Shaker's Blink, so it's not likely that they're going to be in the Echo if he gets the Blink off).
The lack of Pure damage AoE probably means that Familiars are more likely to die incidentally in a fight now than they were before, but conversely means that they're harder to snipe because virtually all the of the Mixed and Universal damage spells are either high-value ultimates or over-time damage.
EDIT: Though since thus far, DotA 2 hasn't replicated DotA 1's flying/hovering unit mechanics, this means that Techies mines could potentially one-shot Familiars at all ranks.
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According to my unbiased and up-to-date source (Pokémon) ground based attacks shouldn't hit flying units. Your move Valve.
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im looking forward to 5 years from now where there is twitchplayssdota2 15000 dudes 1 hero infinite possibilities etcetc
actually that account would probably go right into low priority right away huh
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15,000 dudes 1 hero infinite possibilities
all trench
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On March 06 2014 10:05 TheYango wrote: The list of Universal spells is pretty short though. Tinker can use March now but can't use Laser, so it's maybe a little better (rank 4 Laser used to one-shot rank 1 Familiars before, though, so I dunno). Midnight Pulse is hard to use to do meaningful damage to Familiars since it's percentage-based damage and Familiars have fairly low max HP. You're obviously not going to Doom Familiars. Warlock Golems and Echo Slam killing familiars is a nice bonus, but won't really change the dynamics of the heroes against Visage (Visage vs. Earthshaker is more likely to involve the Familiars trying to stop Shaker's Blink, so it's not likely that they're going to be in the Echo if he gets the Blink off).
The lack of Pure damage AoE probably means that Familiars are more likely to die incidentally in a fight now than they were before, but conversely means that they're harder to snipe because virtually all the of the Mixed and Universal damage spells are either high-value ultimates or over-time damage.
EDIT: Though since thus far, DotA 2 hasn't replicated DotA 1's flying/hovering unit mechanics, this means that Techies mines could potentially one-shot Familiars at all ranks. Familiars die in 1-2 seconds in march making tinker an insane hero against visage because birds are only usable with very high limitations.
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Northern Ireland22213 Posts
"Victoria's secret shop" LOL
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is there a certain joke with the left shoe
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banana for scale is the winner.
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i for one would pay much money for kaci announcer
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
Godz being salty on twitter. Another chapter in the passive-aggressive BTS remarks towards joinDOTA. #drama
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Isn't it just dumb when a Casting studio doesn't want exclusivity?
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Northern Ireland22213 Posts
Riot-levels of anti-competition
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
That's some fucking weak drama.
Call me when Tobi gets involved, then it might get interesting.
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On March 06 2014 09:58 Aui_2000 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 09:48 TheYango wrote:On March 06 2014 08:35 teddyoojo wrote: i just found out beastmaster axes 1shot lvl1 visage birds... That's a consequence of them being changed from having 96% Magic Resistance to being Magic Immune in 6.80. Mixed damage is reduced by magic resistance, but does damage through magic immunity. It means that Familiars now take a lot more damage from Mixed damage sources (Beastmaster Axes, Leshrac's Edict, Alchemist's Acid Spray), but conversely are untargetable by Pure damage sources (Bane, PA, Enchantress, etc.). This is a large net buff because there are a lot more Pure damage sources in the game, and until Techies is in, Wild Axes are the only burst damage Mixed damage spell that can be used to snipe Familiars. Also gets hurt from universal dmg like tinker march (!!) and midnight pulse. I think it's only better because people aren't picking anti familiar heroes even though visage is a first 2 pick.
so why would you only pick just to counter some1s hero? this leads you a place where you dont have an own gameplan anymore.
i think the best way to deal with familiars is just to have like a lycan in your team, that increases eveyones autoattack by a very high amount, so they get autoattacked down with 2 shots, even from the supports.
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Theres like 3 different chinese streams casting it so idk why they gave the english cast exclusively to joindota.
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On March 06 2014 22:41 teapoted wrote: That's some fucking weak drama.
Call me when Tobi gets involved, then it might get interesting. dont worry maelk did it for him
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Still prefer BTS over joinDota in terms of casting.
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United Kingdom24425 Posts
Not doing it for me, that's just standard asshole Maelk. I need some more spice in my drama.
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