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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
February 18 2014 15:12 GMT
#96921
refresher makes it 100% void favored
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GentleDrill
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom672 Posts
February 18 2014 15:13 GMT
#96922
Oh yeah, I should've thought of that, a Rapier would do the same, but I wanted to keep it vaguely realistic. I was omitting Void's BKB though.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 15:17:19
February 18 2014 15:14 GMT
#96923
On February 19 2014 00:05 cecek wrote:
I wouldn't even say Medusa is stronger lategame than Gyro at this point. Halberd and Eblade pretty much counter Medusa lategame. Halberd is even cheap enough with a good buildup that a support can easily build it lategame. Gyro gets around it with bkb and having a higher burst damage and range.

Because medusa can't buy BKB lategame? Not to mention medusa and gyro both have teams that help them, they can assist and back up both heroes.
Medusa is a teamfight carry, she wrecks entire enemy teams at once because of split shot. Gyro is limited by a certain amount of flak cannon hits, medusa isn't. And her ult also prevents her from any kind of focus fire from the enemy and forces enemies to disengage for atleast a while.

Lategame i would 10 times rather have a 6-slotted medusa than a 6-slotted gyro.
Also if medusa ult procs on sylla she can also take him down if she's six-slotted, regardless of how many items he has on him and his bear. Her new ult is so much better. But theorycrafting 1v1 is stupid, medusa just wrecks teamfights, that's what the hero does.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 15:16:19
February 18 2014 15:15 GMT
#96924
Except the full theorycraft item choice for the Void 1v1 involves a refresher which he drops after using it. Which makes it not a question whether he can kill Sylla in Chrono because he gets 2 of them.

EDIT: kupon beat me
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 15:17:28
February 18 2014 15:16 GMT
#96925
What if I build 50 couriers with necrobooks and dagons on lone druid and kill the void before he even sees me? + Show Spoiler +
there's a bug that couriers activated by bear can use items
What if I go shadowblade and get a jump of the void with double hex + double abyssal and disable him for eternity? Max gold vs max gold doesn't make any sense, because it comes down to information what items the other player has, guessing and execution. It's a pointless debate.
super gg
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 15:19:14
February 18 2014 15:18 GMT
#96926
In this hypothetical 1v1 scenario Satanic on void is a waste. Replace it by a rapier and see how often the sylla survives the chrono.

And ofc we can replace treads by refresher orb for the complete overkill xD

edit: waaaaaaaaaaaaay too slow
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44294 Posts
February 18 2014 15:25 GMT
#96927
On February 19 2014 00:12 Kupon3ss wrote:
refresher makes it 100% void favored

How could i forget refreshers on void. Yeah you guys are right. Maybe swap the satanic with rapier for void to ensure kill.
this is a quote
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 18 2014 15:26 GMT
#96928
By the way, I just watched this video:
Funnik uses orchid on an enemy and right after that diffusal. Shouldn't the diffusal purge remove the orchid silence? I'm confused.
super gg
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44294 Posts
February 18 2014 15:28 GMT
#96929
On February 19 2014 00:16 cecek wrote:
What if I build 50 couriers with necrobooks and dagons on lone druid and kill the void before he even sees me? + Show Spoiler +
there's a bug that couriers activated by bear can use items
What if I go shadowblade and get a jump of the void with double hex + double abyssal and disable him for eternity? Max gold vs max gold doesn't make any sense, because it comes down to information what items the other player has, guessing and execution. It's a pointless debate.

It's fun though. By the way i'd go with just the pure bash bear and sylla . Since if you are to face void. There is a chance that hex + abyssal will be backtracked. And it sucks.
this is a quote
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
February 18 2014 15:29 GMT
#96930
You can't backtrack hex and abyssal.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44294 Posts
February 18 2014 15:31 GMT
#96931
On February 19 2014 00:26 cecek wrote:
By the way, I just watched this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4_QlexfeGc Funnik uses orchid on an enemy and right after that diffusal. Shouldn't the diffusal purge remove the orchid silence? I'm confused.

It doesn't if the diffusals go first. I think icefrog changed it already that if diffusals only remove positive buffs on enemies. Not sure though
this is a quote
Cocacooh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1510 Posts
February 18 2014 15:35 GMT
#96932
On February 19 2014 00:26 cecek wrote:
By the way, I just watched this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4_QlexfeGc Funnik uses orchid on an enemy and right after that diffusal. Shouldn't the diffusal purge remove the orchid silence? I'm confused.

its like the dispell in wow, you purge away buffs from opponents, you purge away debuffs from friends.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
February 18 2014 15:39 GMT
#96933
it says buffs in the tooltip doesnt it?
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 18 2014 15:40 GMT
#96934
Really? So if I'm clinkz and my teammate eblades an enemy I can't purge the ethereal state becasue it's a debuff, but if the enemy gets ebladed by his teammate, I can purge it off because it's a buff? That how it works?
super gg
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 15:55:53
February 18 2014 15:54 GMT
#96935
No, purge not removing friendly buffs is a bug:

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=71162

Though, at least for now, that is how it works in DotA 2. But it's not consistent with War3 DotA, where purge-able buffs are removed by purge regardless of source.
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
February 18 2014 16:03 GMT
#96936
http://esportsexpress.com/2014/02/arteezys-gmail-hacked/

So fucking good. :D Too many hilarious jokes to quote any. ESEX best esports website, no competition. <3
super gg
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
February 18 2014 17:27 GMT
#96937
the funniest parts are aysee's status and that google ad

oh and those tabs lmao
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 17:41:09
February 18 2014 17:40 GMT
#96938
Clearly doom agha on with max ms build is the wat to beat void.
WriterXiao8~~
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
February 18 2014 17:48 GMT
#96939
On February 19 2014 02:27 andyrau wrote:
the funniest parts are aysee's status and that google ad

oh and those tabs lmao


"Tim Tebow, Me (2): Teach me to throw - nice to meet you bro but I ain't Demon"

LMFAO
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-18 18:04:53
February 18 2014 18:04 GMT
#96940
How come theres like 3 big dota tournaments on simultaneously I don't have 3 screens wtf.

Edit: and none on twitch either LOL
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