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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
February 07 2014 06:33 GMT
#96221
On February 07 2014 15:20 Fatalize wrote:
Really? That's pretty fucking sad from Valve. This is far, VERY FAR from being worth 25€ even though it's well made

so don't buy it
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
February 07 2014 06:36 GMT
#96222
On February 07 2014 15:33 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 15:20 Fatalize wrote:
Really? That's pretty fucking sad from Valve. This is far, VERY FAR from being worth 25€ even though it's well made

so don't buy it

To be fair, I never saw the appeal in any of them (though the lina one is cool, if only for being based on an old concept.) The panda bear, however...
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ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
February 07 2014 06:38 GMT
#96223
On February 07 2014 15:21 rebdomine wrote:
And you need to find the Gem of the color you want on the Market. What an ingenious business model.


"need"
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 06:40:44
February 07 2014 06:40 GMT
#96224
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 06:46:51
February 07 2014 06:44 GMT
#96225
only made 30 mio with visage bug, got a genuine jade hoof courier
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
February 07 2014 07:24 GMT
#96226
On February 07 2014 15:38 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 15:21 rebdomine wrote:
And you need to find the Gem of the color you want on the Market. What an ingenious business model.


"need"


Well if you want to change the color, you don't really have a choice
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
February 07 2014 07:31 GMT
#96227
I'm a bit sad that the TB arcana is 25 euro, I was actually planning to buy it (which would be my first time paying any money in Dota 2, except for the TI3 compendium). I like the hero and his normal skin is pretty ugly, baller to choose color as well. 25 euro for a fancy skin though? That's ridiculous. 10euro? Yeah, I would have at least considered it.

I'm actually surprised that valve is getting any money at all, their prices are just ridiculous generally, the skins usually make even less of a difference to the characters looks than LoL skins, yet LoL skins are generally way cheaper, and they are made by Riot, not by fans.

I'm genuinely wondering. I have a good salary at a fulltime job, yet I can't bring myself to pay these prices for tiny cosmetic items... who are the people actually paying Valve for this stuff?
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
February 07 2014 07:53 GMT
#96228
people that have different opinions and stuff
shocking i know
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
February 07 2014 07:54 GMT
#96229
On February 07 2014 16:31 Tobberoth wrote:
I'm a bit sad that the TB arcana is 25 euro, I was actually planning to buy it (which would be my first time paying any money in Dota 2, except for the TI3 compendium). I like the hero and his normal skin is pretty ugly, baller to choose color as well. 25 euro for a fancy skin though? That's ridiculous. 10euro? Yeah, I would have at least considered it.

I'm actually surprised that valve is getting any money at all, their prices are just ridiculous generally, the skins usually make even less of a difference to the characters looks than LoL skins, yet LoL skins are generally way cheaper, and they are made by Riot, not by fans.

I'm genuinely wondering. I have a good salary at a fulltime job, yet I can't bring myself to pay these prices for tiny cosmetic items... who are the people actually paying Valve for this stuff?


Normal people who are less uptight than you.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 08:03:27
February 07 2014 08:01 GMT
#96230
I've not seen that many Arcana LCs in my games tbh, I think they could make more money by lowering the prize to 10 euros, and then I would buy it myself as well
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 08:14:32
February 07 2014 08:06 GMT
#96231
On February 07 2014 16:31 Tobberoth wrote:
yet LoL skins are generally way cheaper, and they are made by Riot, not by fans.

Arcana skins are rare and not made often. They're akin to for example the 3250 RP pulsefire ezreal skin that riot made(Which is what, 30~35 dollars?).
It's not as though arcana is the general price or standard of cosmetics in dota.

Different people value different things differently, shocking right? I bought all arcanas so far and i don't regret it one bit.
Don't know if i'll be buying the TB arcana though since i don't particularly plan on playing him while i enjoy playing lina and LC a lot more.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
February 07 2014 08:13 GMT
#96232
I barely notice any difference between vanilla TB and arcana TB.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 08:21:41
February 07 2014 08:20 GMT
#96233
On February 07 2014 17:06 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 16:31 Tobberoth wrote:
yet LoL skins are generally way cheaper, and they are made by Riot, not by fans.

Arcana skins are rare and not made often. They're akin to for example the 3250 RP pulsefire ezreal skin that riot made(Which is what, 30~35 dollars?).
It's not as though arcana is the general price or standard of cosmetics in dota.

Different people value different things differently, shocking right? I bought all arcanas so far and i don't regret it one bit.
Don't know if i'll be buying the TB arcana though since i don't particularly plan on playing him while i enjoy playing lina and LC a lot more.

Would also lose their exclusivity value if they went down in price. That being said, the TB arcana is pretty meh based on the pictures, looks far to much like a repainted original model
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
February 07 2014 08:56 GMT
#96234
saving for techies skin.... it better say 'dont run we are your friends'
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
February 07 2014 09:11 GMT
#96235
On February 07 2014 17:20 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 17:06 Unleashing wrote:
On February 07 2014 16:31 Tobberoth wrote:
yet LoL skins are generally way cheaper, and they are made by Riot, not by fans.

Arcana skins are rare and not made often. They're akin to for example the 3250 RP pulsefire ezreal skin that riot made(Which is what, 30~35 dollars?).
It's not as though arcana is the general price or standard of cosmetics in dota.

Different people value different things differently, shocking right? I bought all arcanas so far and i don't regret it one bit.
Don't know if i'll be buying the TB arcana though since i don't particularly plan on playing him while i enjoy playing lina and LC a lot more.

Would also lose their exclusivity value if they went down in price. That being said, the TB arcana is pretty meh based on the pictures, looks far to much like a repainted original model

Yeah, from what I see on youtube, it's pretty much a reskin repaint one, although the special enemy death effect is kind of cool.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
February 07 2014 09:15 GMT
#96236
Just saw an Arcana TB. As far as I can tell he's...red. I'm not sure if he has any special lines or anything because all he did was die over and over again, but that's beside the point.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
February 07 2014 09:24 GMT
#96237
On February 07 2014 18:15 Firebolt145 wrote:
Just saw an Arcana TB. As far as I can tell he's...red. I'm not sure if he has any special lines or anything because all he did was die over and over again, but that's beside the point.

He has a new death animation i heard.
Volvo promoting feeding?!
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
February 07 2014 09:28 GMT
#96238
dota works in mysterious ways, every single time when i get an unwinable lane i have the best games. I don't even know how it is possible to win a solo safe lane with jakiro (repicked) against nightstalker and skywrath but it happend.
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
February 07 2014 09:32 GMT
#96239
On February 07 2014 18:24 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 18:15 Firebolt145 wrote:
Just saw an Arcana TB. As far as I can tell he's...red. I'm not sure if he has any special lines or anything because all he did was die over and over again, but that's beside the point.

He has a new death animation i heard.
Volvo promoting feeding?!

Its an animation for people you kill.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 10:21:54
February 07 2014 10:10 GMT
#96240
On February 07 2014 15:20 Fatalize wrote:
Really? That's pretty fucking sad from Valve. This is far, VERY FAR from being worth 25€ even though it's well made
I don't think you understand what something being 'worth' anything even means.

Things in this world which don't generate any measurable value have a worth which is entirely subjective. Cosmetic items, more appropriately called vanity items, are no different than designer clothes. Their worth has absolutely nothing to do with the quality or workmanship which goes into them, they have price points where they can gain a reputation of exclusivity and still sell a high volume of product. It isn't even necessarily the case that the price point is the one which would be most profitable, but there's more to it than that, Arcana items are the big exclusive sets which is what separates them.

Generally in these cases people also need to understand that the price point being correct or not (if we assume "correct" being that the entire motive is to just make that single item profitable) depends entirely on statistics which the only people who have is Valve. I don't shop at the fancy clothes stores because their prices are too high, does that mean they're wrong? Of course not, I don't have the data to say that they would sell more at lower prices. They have the data, and they spend more time thinking about their profits than you or I.
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