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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 01 2012 21:08 GMT
#9541
eblade is designed for morph.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 21:10:04
May 01 2012 21:09 GMT
#9542
Thats what it seems like at least.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 01 2012 21:13 GMT
#9543
On May 02 2012 05:03 PassiveAce wrote:
What other heroes (if any) could consider buying eblade?

2009 mentioned a couple times on his Youku channel that EBlade Broodmother was a thing in Chinese pubs for a while.

I still haven't made up my mind whether it's any good.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 01 2012 21:20 GMT
#9544
On May 02 2012 06:13 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 05:03 PassiveAce wrote:
What other heroes (if any) could consider buying eblade?

2009 mentioned a couple times on his Youku channel that EBlade Broodmother was a thing in Chinese pubs for a while.

I still haven't made up my mind whether it's any good.

i tried it once when my team was ahead. not that we didnt lose the game, but it's not very good at all especially since i was pretty stacked
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 01 2012 21:24 GMT
#9545
i think he mentioned it as a troll
I've tried it on potm once, it worked reasonable well as far as troll builds go, the slow allowed u to leap into pointblank arrow + starfall for around 1k+ dmg

not nearly as good as shadowblade bh tho
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
May 01 2012 21:25 GMT
#9546
Why on earth would you do that? The agi gain is good but apart from spawn spiderlings you have no other nukes to take advantage of it. It also prevents you from attacking at all unless you BKB, whereas Manta is at least a staple on Morphling...
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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
May 01 2012 21:30 GMT
#9547
eth blade is pretty ok on shadow fiend.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
May 01 2012 21:33 GMT
#9548
On May 02 2012 05:03 NB wrote:
tbh i will never get Eblade on morph in pub unless i am 5-0 before 10 mins.... the idea of the item is making your hard carry gank and earn gold from kills mid game instead of stable farming. Kills are uncertain gold source and can often back stab if you die. Just go the normal manta casual relic is much better imo

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On May 02 2012 05:03 PassiveAce wrote:
What other heroes (if any) could consider buying eblade?


anyone that is carrying dagon 5

just because u buy an eblade doesn't mean u go and gank...
it's situational but against some lineups u can solo push and instagib most things that try to stop you
also against obvious 5man pushes or roshstandoffs you can shotgun a hero and leave via ulti to force them to either back off or 4v5

eblade is pretty much only good on morph
it's okay on tinker, magina, na, sa, maybe a few more
it's funny on od, jugger, sf, pugna, luna, meepo, and maybe a few more, but it's not particularly good
Imbajoe
Profile Joined September 2010
United States857 Posts
May 01 2012 21:36 GMT
#9549
It seems like it could be situationally good for Drow late game when an enemy right-clicker is giving you a hard time. I mean, with her frost arrows she can still attack inside the ethereal effect, and with her ult shes not lacking on agi.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 21:40:29
May 01 2012 21:39 GMT
#9550
Just checked out LoL spectator mode and it's not that impressive... The only thing it has that dota doesn't is the rewind/slow mode but I don't think that makes up for spectator chat/being able to watch every game including cross server/being able to watch during queues. Honestly feels like you're cut off from everything and are just watching a replay alone. Can't take PMs either.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
May 01 2012 21:41 GMT
#9551
I don't think any other game in existence has anything remotely close to the awesomeness of DotaTV right now.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 21:42:30
May 01 2012 21:42 GMT
#9552
most rightclickers have a manta and/or a bkb by that point, and the eblade damage by itself isn't very good
you'd probably be better off getting either a ghost or a bfly
Mythra
Profile Joined July 2011
New Zealand274 Posts
May 01 2012 21:45 GMT
#9553
On May 02 2012 06:13 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 05:03 PassiveAce wrote:
What other heroes (if any) could consider buying eblade?

2009 mentioned a couple times on his Youku channel that EBlade Broodmother was a thing in Chinese pubs for a while.

I still haven't made up my mind whether it's any good.

Eblade dagon tinker might be viable for late game as it does a lot of dmg
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
May 01 2012 21:50 GMT
#9554
eblade dagon5 tinker is pretty good
the only problem is actually getting to that point w/o falling too far behind
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 22:14:17
May 01 2012 22:13 GMT
#9555
dagon5 is like one of the most cost inefficient items in the game. 400 dmg for 5k gold and some stats? You could have a whole new item in that time.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 01 2012 22:14 GMT
#9556
On May 02 2012 07:13 Itsmedudeman wrote:
dagon5 is like one of the most cost inefficient items in the game. 400 dmg for 5k gold and some stats?

dagon 5 is 800damage so 600damage pure i think. if it's 25% magic red and not 30% like in wc3.
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Mythra
Profile Joined July 2011
New Zealand274 Posts
May 01 2012 22:17 GMT
#9557
well tinker is a great farmer and the reduced manacost helps a lot even if the reduced cooldown doesnt really mean anything. maybe late game after sheepstick the eblade dagon5 can be worth it
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - KuroKy
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
May 01 2012 22:22 GMT
#9558
the manacost/cd drop and the cast range goes up a decent amount
it's certainly inefficient numbers-wise but you have to remember that there's nothing else you can buy as a replacement, and the buildup is pretty nice since it comes in fully functional parts
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
May 01 2012 22:24 GMT
#9559
On May 02 2012 07:14 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 07:13 Itsmedudeman wrote:
dagon5 is like one of the most cost inefficient items in the game. 400 dmg for 5k gold and some stats?

dagon 5 is 800damage so 600damage pure i think. if it's 25% magic red and not 30% like in wc3.

? That's why I said 5k gold and not 8k gold which is if you're including dagon 1 which I'm not. Dagon 1 is pretty good in terms of cost efficiency, but if you want less than what dagon 1 gave you to upgrade to dagon 5 you'll have to fork up 5.3k more gold.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 22:27:26
May 01 2012 22:26 GMT
#9560
On May 02 2012 07:22 Dead9 wrote:
the manacost/cd drop and the cast range goes up a decent amount
it's certainly inefficient numbers-wise but you have to remember that there's nothing else you can buy as a replacement, and the buildup is pretty nice since it comes in fully functional parts

"nothing else to buy" umm, this only happens once in a blue moon. What does cd matter on tinker anyway? In any case, there's a TON of things I'd rather get for 5k gold than upgrading to dagon 5. Hell, even ethereal blade would give you more. And if you do happen to have 600 gpm and 60 minute game then your priority should be in buybacks at 6 items, not 400 extra damage 60 minutes into the game.
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