|
|
On April 29 2012 04:29 Nevuk wrote:
You could do the same with his q but why? And it's a % based decrease so at level 3 it's not going to give any -50 damage unless they have 100 base damage (and then they're only gonna a bit behind your last hit damage anyways). Unless you mean level 3 of the skill?
.
It's a flat amount now, -25, -50, -75, -100.
|
Anyone have insight on how good the most recent dota hero are ?
Like the Pheonix, Huskarr, Ember spirit and stuff ? Do they are even played ?
|
On April 29 2012 11:21 Noocta wrote:
Anyone have insight on how good the most recent dota hero are ?
Like the Pheonix, Huskarr, Ember spirit and stuff ? Do they are even played ?
You mean Rubick, Phoenix, Ember Spirit, Wisp, new rooftrellen, legion commander, tuskar? I don't think emberspirit/legion commander/skymage are enabled in CM yet. Tuskar isn't picked because of the downsides to his snowball, but I think wisp, rubick, and treant all have been picked or banned. These are probably going to be the last heroes added to dota 2 as they're still dealing with balance concerns on them. (Has magnataur ever made it to CM?)
On April 29 2012 11:05 Pseudoku wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2012 04:29 Nevuk wrote:
You could do the same with his q but why? And it's a % based decrease so at level 3 it's not going to give any -50 damage unless they have 100 base damage (and then they're only gonna a bit behind your last hit damage anyways). Unless you mean level 3 of the skill?
. It's a flat amount now, -25, -50, -75, -100.
I don't get the logic behind this change. I remember it getting changed from -120% to -100% because negative base attack caused bugs. It's pretty much not worth leveling now, the mana costs are super high for what it does.
Just compare to VS- has an aoe spell that almost certainly reduces the opposing teams damage by more than 100 at max level while reducing armor, granting vision, doing damage and costing less than half the mana at all levels and even being on a similar CD.
It seems like they're trying to get people to level this skill in lane but brain sap /nightmare are just flat out better in lane and without points in stats you aren't going to have the mana to cast all 3. I actually can't think of a carry that doesn't have some sort of farm mechanism that gets significant play time. (Spectre? That's about all. AM too but laning your bane against AM in some sort of duo/tri lane and having no nuke won't stop him from mana burning you to death).
It used to have a niche role mid/lategame in casting it on carries who had yet to get manta or bkb or after they had used them, but -100 damage lategame is so insignificant. The only positive thing I see is that it has 1000 range.
|
Wisp is sick, but not so new, or was he reworked ?
Seems like he wasn't reworked. Weird i remember playing Wisp with a friend that stopped playing DotA a while ago.
|
My friend was saying that Wisp was banned by tournaments because he was so good. Is this or was this true?
|
On April 29 2012 11:29 Nevuk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2012 11:21 Noocta wrote:
Anyone have insight on how good the most recent dota hero are ?
Like the Pheonix, Huskarr, Ember spirit and stuff ? Do they are even played ? You mean Rubick, Phoenix, Ember Spirit, Wisp, new rooftrellen, legion commander, tuskar? I don't think emberspirit/legion commander/skymage are enabled in CM yet. Tuskar isn't picked because of the downsides to his snowball, but I think wisp, rubick, and treant all have been picked or banned. These are probably going to be the last heroes added to dota 2 as they're still dealing with balance concerns on them. (Has magnataur ever made it to CM?)
In the 648 era, yes. That was along with great blinkers and co (for magnataur).
|
On April 29 2012 11:36 SpiZe wrote:
Wisp is sick, but not so new, or was he reworked ?
Seems like he wasn't reworked. Weird i remember playing Wisp with a friend that stopped playing DotA a while ago.
He's not new but he only made it to CM mode recently. (and I mean this in the sense of a few months ago while he's been out for forever in stable/testing versions)
edit : they were added to CM in 6.74
- Added Wisp, Disruptor and Rubick to CM
http://www.playdota.com/changelogs/6.74c
|
On April 29 2012 11:50 Whole wrote:
My friend was saying that Wisp was banned by tournaments because he was so good. Is this or was this true?
all the new heroes (thrall wisp rubick) are banned. sometimes they make it into the game but the other team that didnt ban it regrets it even if they win (it's annoying)
|
is it just me or everytime i solo match making, i find myself in a stack or facing a pre-made team... its like im the only +1 in the entire 3 severs im searching on.... weird :-/
|
It's probably just you.
I don't know anyone who plays high mm by themselves on a regular basis....
|
Teams tend to ban new heroes, not necessarily because they're overpowered, but because they've spent thousands of hours practicing with a previous metagame, why throw that all away to risk playing with a hero that changes the game in ways you're not used to.
|
On April 29 2012 14:10 Ack1027 wrote:
It's probably just you.
I don't know anyone who plays high mm by themselves on a regular basis....
Me and it is depressing.
|
On April 29 2012 14:10 Ack1027 wrote:
It's probably just you.
I don't know anyone who plays high mm by themselves on a regular basis....
exactly why some people need to play more solo queue.
and ye if you look around PD you will find ALOT people who do solo queue have the same problem. mm is broken as fck. or should i say, mm is a fcking bad troll.
|
On April 29 2012 15:41 BurningSera wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2012 14:10 Ack1027 wrote:
It's probably just you.
I don't know anyone who plays high mm by themselves on a regular basis.... exactly why some people need to play more solo queue. and ye if you look around PD you will find ALOT people who do solo queue have the same problem. mm is broken as fck. or should i say, mm is a fcking bad troll.
I wont be naive in thinking I am very good at the game. But when I have matches where I end up going on losing streaks because my team either feeds, or never played the hero at all. I ask myself, why am I getting queued with these people. Sure, I have not played all the heroes. But I can play just about all of them competently.
So now, my mm drops even more because someone goes Sf and dies 20 times. I don't have many friends on DotA 2 so it is difficult for me to find groups. And my skill level is unknown to me so scared of even finding TL members to play with since afraid I am horrible compared. But the people I play with now, it makes me pissed off.
Oh and side note, I like going support when I get (like getting rhasta). So when I play and my team sucks, I can't even carry the team and potentially win. I do hope Valve continues to work to make the system better because as it stands now; if you do not group, you are going to be stuck.
|
On April 29 2012 16:30 Nilrem wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2012 15:41 BurningSera wrote:On April 29 2012 14:10 Ack1027 wrote:
It's probably just you.
I don't know anyone who plays high mm by themselves on a regular basis.... exactly why some people need to play more solo queue. and ye if you look around PD you will find ALOT people who do solo queue have the same problem. mm is broken as fck. or should i say, mm is a fcking bad troll. I wont be naive in thinking I am very good at the game. But when I have matches where I end up going on losing streaks because my team either feeds, or never played the hero at all. I ask myself, why am I getting queued with these people. Sure, I have not played all the heroes. But I can play just about all of them competently. So now, my mm drops even more because someone goes Sf and dies 20 times. I don't have many friends on DotA 2 so it is difficult for me to find groups. And my skill level is unknown to me so scared of even finding TL members to play with since afraid I am horrible compared. But the people I play with now, it makes me pissed off. Oh and side note, I like going support when I get (like getting rhasta). So when I play and my team sucks, I can't even carry the team and potentially win. I do hope Valve continues to work to make the system better because as it stands now; if you do not group, you are going to be stuck.
yes. and the worst thing is actually, say you have a 4 man stack, you will be guaranteed to get a newbie/noob as the 5th guy. i have seen it too many times (the oppo team complaint rofl).
the thing is when you do solo queue, is either you need to carry the whole fcking game (you solo mid owns hard, you gank, you ward, you call miss and need to remind them to b etc, i saw this too many times on pros stream too), or your team is too good you get a roflstomp game. I swear mm wasnt that bad before the panda patch. so i now only queue RD and SD when i solo queue and I tend to get whatever hero to give the team better laning.
if you wanna check your skill level just go Watch and filter your games in high/mid/low skill.
|
On April 29 2012 16:54 BurningSera wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2012 16:30 Nilrem wrote:On April 29 2012 15:41 BurningSera wrote:On April 29 2012 14:10 Ack1027 wrote:
It's probably just you.
I don't know anyone who plays high mm by themselves on a regular basis.... exactly why some people need to play more solo queue. and ye if you look around PD you will find ALOT people who do solo queue have the same problem. mm is broken as fck. or should i say, mm is a fcking bad troll. I wont be naive in thinking I am very good at the game. But when I have matches where I end up going on losing streaks because my team either feeds, or never played the hero at all. I ask myself, why am I getting queued with these people. Sure, I have not played all the heroes. But I can play just about all of them competently. So now, my mm drops even more because someone goes Sf and dies 20 times. I don't have many friends on DotA 2 so it is difficult for me to find groups. And my skill level is unknown to me so scared of even finding TL members to play with since afraid I am horrible compared. But the people I play with now, it makes me pissed off. Oh and side note, I like going support when I get (like getting rhasta). So when I play and my team sucks, I can't even carry the team and potentially win. I do hope Valve continues to work to make the system better because as it stands now; if you do not group, you are going to be stuck. yes. and the worst thing is actually, say you have a 4 man stack, you will be guaranteed to get a newbie/noob as the 5th guy. i have seen it too many times (the oppo team complaint rofl). the thing is when you do solo queue, is either you need to carry the whole fcking game (you solo mid owns hard, you gank, you ward, you call miss and need to remind them to b etc, i saw this too many times on pros stream too), or your team is too good you get a roflstomp game. I swear mm wasnt that bad before the panda patch. so i now only queue RD and SD when i solo queue and I tend to get whatever hero to give the team better laning. if you wanna check your skill level just go Watch and filter your games in high/mid/low skill.
Yeah :-/ I knew about the replay but that is dependent on the match and not person skill. So if you are on a losing streak for playing support while carries fail, your replays wont be high. Now, perhaps I am just bad and truly medium skilled. But, without seeing mmr to begin with, it is difficult to tell.
I do try that, go for carry and wipe the floor with the team. Like going viper and always winning mid-lane. But argh, I want to be better at all types and not just play carries. I also made a smurf account just so can practice a hero Ive never played before playing on main account.
|
United States47024 Posts
|
this stream lags so bad
if anyone wants to ih in soon message me (szpt)
|
United States47024 Posts
On April 29 2012 18:07 Dead9 wrote:
this stream lags so bad
if anyone wants to ih in soon message me (szpt)
If it's lagging, NGF has its own Twitch stream:
http://zh-cn.twitch.tv/nvidiageforce
|
what if they both lag rofl
edit: theyango add me and join this ih and fix ur internet
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
