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chocopaw
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
Can't do anything against a strong pusher. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On April 29 2012 02:53 chocopaw wrote: Maybe somebody could enlighten me why exactly Bane never sees competetive play and is listed in the bottom tier almost all the time? He has two awesome disables, a decent nuke/selfheal and (at least on paper) an anti-carry spell. He has seen some play by DTS/Navi and I think M5. His main problem is lack of push/anti push I think so in a metagame all about pushing down towers it's hard for him to fit into a lineup but he sometimes does. People outside of Russian/Eastern Europe don't seem to experiment past the "tried and tested" heroes I think. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
 On April 29 2012 02:53 chocopaw wrote: Maybe somebody could enlighten me why exactly Bane never sees competetive play and is listed in the bottom tier almost all the time? He has two awesome disables, a decent nuke/selfheal and (at least on paper) an anti-carry spell. well bane is heavyly single target disabler so compare to shadow shaman and lion he lack of crow control ability. His first skill is mostly useless. The best thing about him is an ulti going through BKB but batrider do a much better job with AoE abilities. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
 Also bane has no real way to get any farm, but he could need some items like blink dagger. High cooldown skills don't help him either. | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On April 29 2012 04:06 Mafe wrote: I'd like to see a team messing up the farm of the enemy teams carry with bane's first skill during the laning phase. Try lasthitting with -50 damage at lvl 3. Would probably be just a fun build though Also bane has no real way to get any farm, but he could need some items like blink dagger. High cooldown skills don't help him either. well the thing is most of the heroes in the current meta game has a 'guarentee farm' skill. Take off lane solo heroes for example: WR spam powershot, beast spam axe, brood..... you cant really simply deny enemy farm by taking away their attack dmg. Even if you can, its you who dont have anyfarm bc you have to stay lane and bully a DPS carrier. Not even just that, bane 1st skill mana cost is quite high to just spam in lane. The most common way to build bane is still 1 or 2 level of stats before ulti just because of his high mana cost. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On April 28 2012 16:30 Dead9 wrote: yo babes time for some ih message SZPT if you wanna inhouse he has a picture of emerald gawain get in here for some sexxy time edit: U DO NOT HAVE MUCH TIME MESSAGE ME QUICKLY edit2: u can add me i can be ur fvriend but only if u wanan ih right now edit3: come omn hury up jessus christ message me arleady edit4: 00:54 blahz0r: rabidch is my bf edit5: 00:69 blahz0r: plz rabidch take my penis in ur butt oh so this is why i got a plz bebe message from you last night. Sorry, I couldn't down the opportunity to hear 400 people shouting hail satan. edit : A soul ring and brain sap spam is one of the most annoying things in the game to lane against in a solo scenario. You could do the same with his q but why? And it's a % based decrease so at level 3 it's not going to give any -50 damage unless they have 100 base damage (and then they're only gonna a bit behind your last hit damage anyways). Unless you mean level 3 of the skill? Other reason for stats is that nightmare has an insanely long disable with just one point and bane's q just isn't very useful until much later. | ||
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Rice
United States1332 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 29 2012 04:06 Mafe wrote: I'd like to see a team messing up the farm of the enemy teams carry with bane's first skill during the laning phase. Try lasthitting with -50 damage at lvl 3. Would probably be just a fun build though Also bane has no real way to get any farm, but he could need some items like blink dagger. High cooldown skills don't help him either. You're forgetting about his obscene mana costs. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
On April 29 2012 04:21 NB wrote: well the thing is most of the heroes in the current meta game has a 'guarentee farm' skill. Take off lane solo heroes for example: WR spam powershot, beast spam axe, brood..... you cant really simply deny enemy farm by taking away their attack dmg. Even if you can, its you who dont have anyfarm bc you have to stay lane and bully a DPS carrier. Not even just that, bane 1st skill mana cost is quite high to just spam in lane. The most common way to build bane is still 1 or 2 level of stats before ulti just because of his high mana cost. Well there's a reason I said "carry" and not "off lane solo hero". More precisely, I was thinking of antimage, void, spectre, heroes that typically farm with heir autoattack while being protected in a trilane. You might go trilane vs trilane and give your carry a farm advantage. But anyway, you are surely correct in saying it is not good strategy, even more so in the current metagame which. It is just something I have thought of once since bane got introduced into dota 2. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 29 2012 04:51 Mafe wrote: Well there's a reason I said "carry" and not "off lane solo hero". More precisely, I was thinking of antimage, void, spectre, heroes that typically farm with heir autoattack while being protected in a trilane. You might go trilane vs trilane and give your carry a farm advantage. But anyway, you are surely correct in saying it is not good strategy, even more so in the current metagame which. It is just something I have thought of once since bane got introduced into dota 2. The other problem with this idea is that if you're leveling Enfeeble early, Bane is going to be a useless hero midgame. Who cares if their carry is getting zero farm. The fact that your team has a useless hero that leveled a skill that has little to no midgame teamfight potential means that their team can make a lot of space for their carry to catch up midgame. Carry farm isn't the end-all-be-all. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
Sing<3 | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
My Axe felt like tissue papper. ~~ | ||
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dragonborn
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ROFL hahahahahahahahahahahaha randomly flaming his teammate with ingame voice :D :D :D :D :D | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On April 29 2012 06:46 Noocta wrote: Playing initiator against Ursa + Sladar is no fun. My Axe felt like tissue papper. ~~ Blademail -> GG | ||
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