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CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
January 04 2014 11:49 GMT
#92761
The server broke down, I was the only one left in the game. Im afraid to enter a game now, is it safe?
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13085 Posts
January 04 2014 13:12 GMT
#92762
Whats up with all the new items with frozen , corrupted quality ? Are they special in some kind of way ?
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 04 2014 13:18 GMT
#92763
Everyone's a special snowflake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
January 04 2014 13:27 GMT
#92764
On January 04 2014 22:12 SkelA wrote:
Whats up with all the new items with frozen , corrupted quality ? Are they special in some kind of way ?


wraith night recipes require frozen items
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
January 04 2014 13:41 GMT
#92765
On January 04 2014 22:27 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 22:12 SkelA wrote:
Whats up with all the new items with frozen , corrupted quality ? Are they special in some kind of way ?


wraith night recipes require frozen items

They are have blue names :D
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-04 14:17:21
January 04 2014 14:15 GMT
#92766
On January 04 2014 16:36 trinxified wrote:
Currently hovering around 3850-4000 MMR, is it really possible to make it to 5000? Already got 1000+ games clocked in, so probably impossible at this point.


Ofc it is possible, how can you say it is imposible? 1k games doesn't mean anything. You can have 5k games and you are still a scrub. It really depends on how you invest into those games. So make every game count. Making a jump from 4k to 5k won't happen in one week or month. Maybe in one year, it really depends on how well you can improve your game.
juracule
Profile Joined November 2013
292 Posts
January 04 2014 14:25 GMT
#92767
I went from 3600 to 4000 in the span of 2 days. Granted, I played a shitload of games, but it worked. I also picked only visage during those games, just a tip.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-04 14:52:28
January 04 2014 14:42 GMT
#92768
On January 04 2014 23:25 juracule wrote:
I went from 3600 to 4000 in the span of 2 days. Granted, I played a shitload of games, but it worked. I also picked only visage during those games, just a tip.


That's exactly my issue of 'grinding up' the mmr, what is the point of just playing specific hero and hope for the best that your carry/mid doesnt suck too hard. Solo mm is almost purely a gamble now from my experience (i will drop my review of the whole solo/team mm system before i went abroad again in that ranked mm thread), no wonder most of the 'good players' that i know they dont quite bother with solo mm atm (they almost always play in 3-5men stack before the rmm introduced anyway). Solo mm didnt bother me before rmm because it doesnt show a number etc and then now if i just go 'casual' solo queue the games are even harder over there...

I mean ya, if people really aim to 'win the game' in solo mm, proactive support is probably the better choice (albeit still a gamble), or i dont think it was an coincidence that i faced a few times of brood+chen autolose games. And when i picked brood the team didnt know what is the meaning of 'go 4men pls'. And i am 80% sure that total game count is a (small) factor in the rmm, the people in my (solo mm) games are mostly 'pro noob' if you know what i meant.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 04 2014 14:56 GMT
#92769
I don't understand your people's issue with that. Of course tryharding and playing the same shit will get you a better rating. How is that a surprise to anybody? It was the exact same thing before visible rating, you just see your stupid number now.
super gg
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-04 15:25:45
January 04 2014 15:24 GMT
#92770
On January 04 2014 23:56 cecek wrote:
I don't understand your people's issue with that. Of course tryharding and playing the same shit will get you a better rating. How is that a surprise to anybody? It was the exact same thing before visible rating, you just see your stupid number now.

They want their mmr to represent their average skill with every single hero in the game even those they never play and the roles they never play and the things they never do cause if mmr only represents their skill when they really try and play with heroes they actually can play what is it then worth

wait.

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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-04 15:39:57
January 04 2014 15:36 GMT
#92771
i dont think anyone should look to mmr as a measure of skill
+ Show Spoiler +
of course im going to say this tho


edit: ok what the fuck steam, it asks me for my age, on my laptop this is always set to my birthday so im just used to clicking OK and it letting me through, now im on new pc it said the current date so i basically said i wasnt even 1, now i cant view any even slightly age restricted games on the store.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
January 04 2014 15:39 GMT
#92772
On January 04 2014 23:25 juracule wrote:
I went from 3600 to 4000 in the span of 2 days. Granted, I played a shitload of games, but it worked. I also picked only visage during those games, just a tip.

How is that any fun? Is getting a higher number more rewarding than just playing the game?
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
January 04 2014 15:40 GMT
#92773
On January 05 2014 00:39 SilverStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 23:25 juracule wrote:
I went from 3600 to 4000 in the span of 2 days. Granted, I played a shitload of games, but it worked. I also picked only visage during those games, just a tip.

How is that any fun? Is getting a higher number more rewarding than just playing the game?

you get to play, theoretically, better players
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
hadang
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany941 Posts
January 04 2014 16:04 GMT
#92774
On January 05 2014 00:40 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 00:39 SilverStar wrote:
On January 04 2014 23:25 juracule wrote:
I went from 3600 to 4000 in the span of 2 days. Granted, I played a shitload of games, but it worked. I also picked only visage during those games, just a tip.

How is that any fun? Is getting a higher number more rewarding than just playing the game?

you get to play, theoretically, better players


The problem with that approach is, that when you reach your desired MMR and stop playing the 1 hero, then you just drop down to where you were before.
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
January 04 2014 16:16 GMT
#92775
Ultimately, when people get 3000 mmr after hundreds and hundreds of games played before Ranked matchmaking appeared, they have no right to say "omg I deserve so much more, I dont want to play furion every game to get to 5000". They're obviously where they should

If you're good you'll get to a good rating with random heroes no matter what. Same as before, except now you see your MMR
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
January 04 2014 16:18 GMT
#92776
On January 05 2014 01:04 hadang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2014 00:40 Targe wrote:
On January 05 2014 00:39 SilverStar wrote:
On January 04 2014 23:25 juracule wrote:
I went from 3600 to 4000 in the span of 2 days. Granted, I played a shitload of games, but it worked. I also picked only visage during those games, just a tip.

How is that any fun? Is getting a higher number more rewarding than just playing the game?

you get to play, theoretically, better players


The problem with that approach is, that when you reach your desired MMR and stop playing the 1 hero, then you just drop down to where you were before.


You'll become that feeder everyone is always raging about!
RockIronrod
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia1369 Posts
January 04 2014 16:27 GMT
#92777
I think the idea is that it's an imperfect system and inflating their MMR massively and then falling to a middle ground between the two would better represent their current skill than the systems estimate.
To me it's a mix between wanting to be labelled as the upper end of your skill set variance rather than the average and serious overestimation of how MLG you are.
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
January 04 2014 16:51 GMT
#92778
Or you know, you can play your other heroes while doing unranked and hey, the rating won't drop! what's the big deal anyway? i mean you queue ranked to make the rating go up, obviously you should play the same few heroes that you think would give you the highest chances of winning.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 04 2014 16:56 GMT
#92779
Or play any hero you want and fool around with rogue builds occasionally even in ranked if you want to, that's fine too. But then don't bitch about your teammates and how awful the MMR system is. It's seriously getting on my nerves.
super gg
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
January 04 2014 17:10 GMT
#92780
fuck these stupid chinese idiots, killing invokers integrity by building necrobook and literally playing him like a fucking furion

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Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
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