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zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 12:32:40
December 27 2013 12:32 GMT
#92161
playing furion is so satisfying
after you win "gg rat won", " sad bulldog won" "i reported u furion"
after u lose " haha noob rat" " rat got punished"
bonus points if your teammates complains about you not having shadowblade

=)
Liebig
Profile Joined August 2010
France738 Posts
December 27 2013 12:35 GMT
#92162
Ratting with lycan is funny too, just go vlad treads necro and towers melt like crazy
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
December 27 2013 13:52 GMT
#92163
Beastmaster. I like to play this hero offlane but i got some questions.

Aura or hawk? Offlaning I find that hawk allows me to stack ancient , but aura is the most popular build on dotabuff...

Is soul ring + tranquil better than power treads/arc + drums? Should the goal of bm to rush for 6 and become a roamer as soon as possible, or is it better to build him into a stronger mid game hero at the expense of later ganking power

Should I get aghs or blink or necro mid game? I feel blink is the best choice since beastmaster falls out really quickly , but blink was not even in the most popular items and i feel after blink necro is superior to aghs...

Help pls
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 14:04:12
December 27 2013 14:03 GMT
#92164
On December 27 2013 22:52 BlindKill wrote:
Beastmaster. I like to play this hero offlane but i got some questions.

Aura or hawk? Offlaning I find that hawk allows me to stack ancient , but aura is the most popular build on dotabuff...

Is soul ring + tranquil better than power treads/arc + drums? Should the goal of bm to rush for 6 and become a roamer as soon as possible, or is it better to build him into a stronger mid game hero at the expense of later ganking power

Should I get aghs or blink or necro mid game? I feel blink is the best choice since beastmaster falls out really quickly , but blink was not even in the most popular items and i feel after blink necro is superior to aghs...

Help pls

Offlane in general you want the summons for stacking and early mapcontrol. Especially offlane your main goal is to develop into someone who makes shit happen with a minimum amount of farm (very similar to an offlane clock).

You'll need Arcanes if you run Mek/Pipe, treads/drums is more of a brawly build that's great if you do well in lane and will be able to get solo kills later on.

Aghs vs Blink depends on the game. You generally don't want both, you sometimes want neither.

Necro/Shivas/AC/Pipe/Halberd are all great to round out your build depending on teamcomps.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
rudimentalfeelthelov
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland268 Posts
December 27 2013 14:06 GMT
#92165
On December 27 2013 22:52 BlindKill wrote:
Beastmaster. I like to play this hero offlane but i got some questions.

Aura or hawk? Offlaning I find that hawk allows me to stack ancient , but aura is the most popular build on dotabuff...

Is soul ring + tranquil better than power treads/arc + drums? Should the goal of bm to rush for 6 and become a roamer as soon as possible, or is it better to build him into a stronger mid game hero at the expense of later ganking power

Should I get aghs or blink or necro mid game? I feel blink is the best choice since beastmaster falls out really quickly , but blink was not even in the most popular items and i feel after blink necro is superior to aghs...

Help pls


You deffo don't need to skill aura when offlaning lol.

Power treads+drums are pretty much always better than soul ring+tranquil. Everything else is situational. Build a blink if your team lacks initiation, build aghs if the farm allows you, build necro if your playing push strat. Build mekansm if no one else on team is building it and you need it for push. Build urn if you're pushing and ganking a lot.
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 14:09:27
December 27 2013 14:08 GMT
#92166
On December 26 2013 23:52 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 13:51 Artok wrote:
Wow, playing earth spirit may be the most fun ive ever had in mobas ;O So much random shit i can do

Earth spirit seems like a hero who's really hard to master, but not particularly difficult to play at like 80% efficiency

i dunno, but whenever i do something i could have done it better, which makes me play that hero over and over again ;O
Chun-li since ST
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
December 27 2013 14:32 GMT
#92167
On December 27 2013 23:08 Artok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 23:52 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On December 26 2013 13:51 Artok wrote:
Wow, playing earth spirit may be the most fun ive ever had in mobas ;O So much random shit i can do

Earth spirit seems like a hero who's really hard to master, but not particularly difficult to play at like 80% efficiency

i dunno, but whenever i do something i could have done it better, which makes me play that hero over and over again ;O

You dont have to do it better, you get kills by rolling your head on your keyboard anyway
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 27 2013 14:56 GMT
#92168
Earth spirit is really dumb. The fact that he can't be stunned out of that ball is a big pile of bull shit. Its like very 4 seconds he becomes immune to everything and rockets across the field.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 27 2013 15:05 GMT
#92169
He can be stunned out of that ball...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
December 27 2013 15:08 GMT
#92170
On December 27 2013 17:39 PassiveAce wrote:
quitter.
il stop playing earth spirit when he stops being the most fun hero in dota

He's fun because he wins so much. Winning is fun, thus ES is fun.

If you have no soul
ヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノDELETE ICEFROGヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 16:24:50
December 27 2013 15:54 GMT
#92171
hes on my list of OP heroes im unable to win with

has anyone tried that puj hook online game with 1000ms ping? its hard

http://weneedwards.com/meathook/
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 16:57:05
December 27 2013 16:45 GMT
#92172
On December 28 2013 00:08 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 17:39 PassiveAce wrote:
quitter.
il stop playing earth spirit when he stops being the most fun hero in dota

He's fun because he wins so much. Winning is fun, thus ES is fun.

If you have no soul

now you get it.
I like playing heroes that kill people. I used to mass games with clock, but ever since Clock 2.0-No Cooldowns Edition was released I dont really see a reason to play anything else.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 17:32:05
December 27 2013 17:31 GMT
#92173
On December 28 2013 00:05 Erasme wrote:
He can be stunned out of that ball...

If he can be stunned out of the ball, I have never seen it happen in game or on anyones stream. He just yolo's all over the place and no one ever lands a stun on him. Maybe its that the ball goes so fast that most stuns only hit after it lands.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 27 2013 17:34 GMT
#92174
Come to think of it, nobody ever stunned me out of the Roll either.

Maybe people just don't know it can be done (on my level at least)
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 17:38:32
December 27 2013 17:36 GMT
#92175
On December 27 2013 23:03 r.Evo wrote:
You'll need Arcanes if you run Mek/Pipe, treads/drums is more of a brawly build that's great if you do well in lane and will be able to get solo kills later on.

Arcanes is in general very team-oriented and more suited for higher-level games. The draw of Arcanes is that you can have something like Arcanes+Bottle+Wand+Headdress+TP+Smoke and hide out in jungle the same way a Bat with Blink can. You stay off the map and can farm sustainably but the enemy still has to play scared even if they saw your smoke, because TP+Smoke basically means you can be anywhere in ~10 seconds without ever passing a ward.

Without Arcanes it's harder to do this, even with Bottle-crow because your low max mana means that if you have to countergank at the wrong time, you won't have the mana cuz your Bottle didn't quite get back to you. The Arcanes guarantees you always have enough mana to cast Roar+Axes, and, as mentioned, supports Mek later.

On December 28 2013 02:34 Talin wrote:
Come to think of it, nobody ever stunned me out of the Roll either.

Maybe people just don't know it can be done (on my level at least)

It's still bugged. If there's no hero you would have hit during the roll, you stop, but if there's a target that you would have run into, you teleport to them and do damage to them as if you rolled into them even if you are stunned.

It's a really, really stupid bug.
yango pls
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 27 2013 17:49 GMT
#92176
Vindicated, I knew he was fucked up in some way. The fact that the ball always fucking lands is super annoying. Plus his unlimited forcestaff of power.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
December 27 2013 17:50 GMT
#92177
basically he's a good hero turned utterly broken by dota2engine
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Scalepad
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden366 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 19:39:22
December 27 2013 19:39 GMT
#92178
About to play my first ranked match.

H-here I go!
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
December 27 2013 19:55 GMT
#92179
Kupon's point about smartcasted orbwalking makes much sense. I am enlightened.
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
December 27 2013 20:23 GMT
#92180
5 man OP as fuck xD
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
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