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zezamer
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BlitzerSC
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On December 27 2013 03:42 zezamer wrote: whats the correct way to play/pick against opponents who have 3 tanky str cores You pick lifestealer. | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
im pretty sure 3 core tanky str comps revolve around having a naix involved | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
On December 27 2013 03:32 Staboteur wrote: I loved the shit out of it in League but I've never taken that over to Dota. I've never felt the need for the same level of spamcasting is necessary here, so it feels more like a preference thing than one actually being objectively superior to the other. i've only ever used league's smart+self cast (e.g. orianna ball shield) because self cast was alt+Q/W/E rather than double tap. | ||
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Sbrubbles
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canikizu
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On December 27 2013 00:11 PassiveAce wrote: Do any of you guys use smartcasting? I turned it on 3 days ago to see if it made a difference, and after getting used to it it seems pretty useful. Does anyone have any experience with it? That's why I've never used the old normal cast again, smartcasting is just way better. I prefer the League's one though. In league, although it's also smartcast, the spells are executed when you release the button, so as long as you hold down the key, the spells don't cast. In dota though, spells are casted as soon as you press the key, so sometimes you can still miss aim your spells, hence. Smite also implements both kind of casting from both games (smartcast and instantcast). I've been using smartcasting in every games I'm playing now. | ||
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PassiveAce
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SkelA
Macedonia13085 Posts
On December 27 2013 03:42 zezamer wrote: whats the correct way to play/pick against opponents who have 3 tanky str cores timber | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On December 27 2013 04:56 PassiveAce wrote: using soul catcher with quickcasting sounds like a nightmare. quickcast is probably really nice for some heroes and really really shitty for others. That's because Dota2's quickcasting is badly implemented. In LoL or Smite, spells are executed when you release the button, so when you still hold down the key, you can still see the AOE and can still aim to where you want. In dota, spells are executed instantly, so it's harder for spells like soulcatcher. | ||
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Testuser
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 27 2013 05:46 canikizu wrote: That's because Dota2's quickcasting is badly implemented. In LoL or Smite, spells are executed when you release the button, so when you still hold down the key, you can still see the AOE and can still aim to where you want. In dota, spells are executed instantly, so it's harder for spells like soulcatcher. That's not really the only reason why soulcatcher isn't great for smartcasting. Soulcatcher is all about preplanning and timing, it's completely the opposite of what smartcasting is. Anyway you shouldn't really rely on smartcasting. The large majority of spells in dota aren't about how quickly you can get them off but rather about when to use them. | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
huskar, necro as well then :D? hehe | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
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canikizu
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On December 27 2013 05:57 Numy wrote: That's not really the only reason why soulcatcher isn't great for smartcasting. Soulcatcher is all about preplanning and timing, it's completely the opposite of what smartcasting is. Anyway you shouldn't really rely on smartcasting. The large majority of spells in dota aren't about how quickly you can get them off but rather about when to use them. It all boils down to how comfortable and suitable you are with the casting system. A person can be good at normalcasting blink pudge hook and terrible at quickcasting, and another person can be the opposite. There're no indications or statistics that show one way is superior than another besides people who are complain about something that they don't even play for 5 games. The term quickcasting is misleading because it implies you have to sacrifice accuracy for speed while it's not. It's just another mode for spellcasting, and completely our choice to choose to use it or not. Dota2 is not a special game where if you use quickcasting, you're putting yourself at disadvantage (half of spells in dota are target spells anyway). | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
to me it seems like quick casting is fine even for aoe spells as long as you are intimately familiar with the radius. | ||
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Staboteur
Canada1873 Posts
Dota has very few combo-based heroes that combo with single-target spells that need the same level of optimized combos, and a lot of combo-based heroes have spells that don't require precise targeted spell clicks, I.E.Tinker, Storm Spirit, Queen of Pain. Where in League it's fairly common to have a caster type hero that has two or three single-target spells, it's actually quite rare for Dota to have heroes with a bunch of precise spells. So I'd say it's generally less important to Dota, but if you're eblade blink dagon tinker, you might as well use it :D | ||
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