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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-23 01:21:20
December 22 2013 21:53 GMT
#91921
On December 23 2013 06:47 Qbek wrote:
Lycan is practically unslowable by % slows, however purge, which is a slow by a factor of X, will slow you no matter how fast you go,as it is calculated after all the % buffs


Tested this; it is just a 100% slow that is additive like you would expect. If it was multiplicitive then purging a 100 base MS unit would cause them to not move at 522 when under the effects of a 1000% bloodlust. You can also purge and then hex the 522 unit and they'll still run at 522 while under the effects of bloodlust (100 base ms * (1000-100) > 522).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/i7zchsb3gh7zp1w/Purgetest.w3x

If you want to play with my map. It should be intuitive, but you should be able to figure it out by looking at the custom units/abilities in the editor if it isn't.

You can slow Lycan with the hex+purge+other stuff combo because hex sets his base MS to 100. Then you use a multitude of slows to reduce his increased percentage from 1000 to less than 522 (ice wall, purge, etc etc). If it was really multiplicative then you wouldn't need the other stuff since hex sets the base ms to 100.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
December 22 2013 22:06 GMT
#91922
dota 1 engine has a lot of quirks like that, one of my personal favorite being the legendary refresher kunkka double boat into 7 seconds of invulnerablity
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
December 22 2013 22:28 GMT
#91923
Hey guys I've seen slark getting a lot of play lately. What is he generally building ? Id like to run him but I dont really know what to build.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
December 22 2013 22:36 GMT
#91924
On December 23 2013 00:30 Firebolt145 wrote:
So I decided to bulldoze through my last required solo ranked matches, and...

[image loading]

I'm awful at this game.



User was warned for this post


Didn't think it was possible to lose with Legion Commander, guess I was wrong.
Come play Android Netrunner - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409008
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
December 22 2013 23:02 GMT
#91925
On December 23 2013 07:06 Kupon3ss wrote:
dota 1 engine has a lot of quirks like that, one of my personal favorite being the legendary refresher kunkka double boat into 7 seconds of invulnerablity


The best quirk has to be Kunkka permacleaving your team while said team is under Guardian Angel.
Get it by your hands...
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 22 2013 23:15 GMT
#91926
On December 23 2013 07:28 KDot2 wrote:
Hey guys I've seen slark getting a lot of play lately. What is he generally building ? Id like to run him but I dont really know what to build.

In pubs: mid and build Bottle, Treads, Shadowblade. He's a very good solo ganker with shadowblade. After that you usually need a bkb so that you can teamfight. In coordinated -cm mode games, you can't really solo gank, so people tend to build drums into bkb.
super gg
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
December 22 2013 23:25 GMT
#91927
safe lane slark midas ok ?

something like midas treads drums BKB into a bigger item ?
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 23:38:37
December 22 2013 23:37 GMT
#91928
I don't think you can really ask "is Midas good on this hero?" It can be good on any hero, but it's extremely dependent on the situation of the game, more than any other item, imo. So yeah, it can definitely be good.

Anyway, I really think you want Slark mid in pubs. He's one of the best heroes with runes, can gank effeciently with early levels, etc. But if you're safelane and making a midas, you're probably going to be spending a lot of time in the jungle, so make sure you get something for mana regen, or a cm in your team.

e: you might also want to max dark pact in the safelane instead of pounce, because you're farming more than ganking.
super gg
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 23:43:43
December 22 2013 23:40 GMT
#91929
EDIT: NM I have some bad info.
yango pls
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
December 22 2013 23:54 GMT
#91930
Clearly not Yango.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
December 22 2013 23:55 GMT
#91931
Fakeyango.

Are there no big dota games for a week or is the calendar not updated?
Stuck.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
December 23 2013 00:15 GMT
#91932
ognaYtoN
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 23 2013 00:15 GMT
#91933
On December 23 2013 08:55 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Are there no big dota games for a week or is the calendar not updated?


[Fengyun] RO16 Day 1 is in seven hours or so on the calendar.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-23 00:42:54
December 23 2013 00:42 GMT
#91934
meant to edit my post at the top of page.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
December 23 2013 00:45 GMT
#91935
Mid Slark definitely doesnt need bottle. Get lvl 7 with 1/4/1/1 with treads, pms, magic wand. Go gank. Win game.
Skol
wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
December 23 2013 02:28 GMT
#91936
On December 23 2013 07:36 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2013 00:30 Firebolt145 wrote:
So I decided to bulldoze through my last required solo ranked matches, and...

[image loading]

I'm awful at this game.



User was warned for this post


Didn't think it was possible to lose with Legion Commander, guess I was wrong.


LC is easy to deal with multiple stuns flying during teamfight or countergank. Or when I play her with blink 7mins
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-23 03:34:47
December 23 2013 03:31 GMT
#91937
LC also just is not that good against teams that can push or force fights when she's either still farming her Blink Dagger or just got it. She's not like Magnus or Batrider where having just a naked Blink can be good enough to win teamfights. She needs to get Duel kills and more items beyond that to actually be strong, so heroes that start forcing down towers in that 7-10 minute mark when she wants to be picking off people solo are good against her because she doesn't do a whole lot in fights at that point and can't get pick-offs when their whole team is 5-manning. Pugna, Chen, Luna, etc. all do well against her if you can get the team together to push.
yango pls
Bswhunter
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia954 Posts
December 23 2013 04:03 GMT
#91938
Dumb theorycrafting+ Show Spoiler +
On December 23 2013 08:37 cecek wrote:
I don't think you can really ask "is Midas good on this hero?" It can be good on any hero, but it's extremely dependent on the situation of the game, more than any other item, imo. So yeah, it can definitely be good.

I think one of the worst heroes for midas is Leshrac. I think he generally benefits from more mana then midas seeing as he relies mostly on mana for flash farming, especially when it comes to clearing stacked camps.

I just wanted to get that out of my head, leshrac midas and its viability has been bouncing around in my head for some time.


Anyway, what heroes can reliably beat Earth Spirit mid? I really, really dislike this guy, every time I play against him I always get squashed (I usually end up with melee heroes thou). If I don't get a good hero vs him, what are some things I can do to not completely lose the lane?
Stop browsing and do whatever it is you're supposed to do. TL will still be here when you get back
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
December 23 2013 04:04 GMT
#91939
On December 23 2013 13:03 Bswhunter wrote:
Dumb theorycrafting+ Show Spoiler +
On December 23 2013 08:37 cecek wrote:
I don't think you can really ask "is Midas good on this hero?" It can be good on any hero, but it's extremely dependent on the situation of the game, more than any other item, imo. So yeah, it can definitely be good.

I think one of the worst heroes for midas is Leshrac. I think he generally benefits from more mana then midas seeing as he relies mostly on mana for flash farming, especially when it comes to clearing stacked camps.

I just wanted to get that out of my head, leshrac midas and its viability has been bouncing around in my head for some time.


Anyway, what heroes can reliably beat Earth Spirit mid? I really, really dislike this guy, every time I play against him I always get squashed (I usually end up with melee heroes thou). If I don't get a good hero vs him, what are some things I can do to not completely lose the lane?


pick earth spirit, wait untill the whole enemy team picked and loaded. repick and play the hero you want to play.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 23 2013 04:05 GMT
#91940
pick timbersaw buy shield get reac armor and just bully him
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