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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
December 20 2013 01:16 GMT
#91601
apparently i learned how to play Earthshaker guys

Its magical.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 20 2013 01:29 GMT
#91602
Okay, I've beaten Wraith-Night once with every hero (only normal), and now I'm never going to touch it again.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Fullback
Profile Joined January 2012
Argentina170 Posts
December 20 2013 01:41 GMT
#91603
On December 20 2013 10:29 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Okay, I've beaten Wraith-Night once with every hero (only normal), and now I'm never going to touch it again.



WRAITH-NIGHT
Added Queen of Pain, Storm Spirit, Templar Assassin, Witch Doctor, and Elder Titan to Wraith-Night.
Added new rewards to Wraith-Night.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
December 20 2013 01:42 GMT
#91604
also iceiceice invoker set is in.... and my wallet is fucking empty.... FUCK YOU VOLVO T_T. I want those ice forge spirit so bad
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
December 20 2013 01:42 GMT
#91605
downloading a 150mb update right now
Kevmeister @ Dota2
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 20 2013 01:43 GMT
#91606
100 mb last night
another 153 mb when i get home today
thank u gaben for da skins
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
December 20 2013 01:45 GMT
#91607
Did anyone seriously buy LC set for full price? I mean I love LC, one of my favorite heroes. But god man, 30 bucks is like an entirely new game right there.

I draw the line for buying cosmetics at 10 bucks.
Skol
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 20 2013 01:46 GMT
#91608
On December 20 2013 10:41 Fullback wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 10:29 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Okay, I've beaten Wraith-Night once with every hero (only normal), and now I'm never going to touch it again.



WRAITH-NIGHT
Added Queen of Pain, Storm Spirit, Templar Assassin, Witch Doctor, and Elder Titan to Wraith-Night.
Added new rewards to Wraith-Night.

Oh god damn.

Talk about timing xD.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
December 20 2013 01:47 GMT
#91609
Holy 400% battle booster under the 2nd January
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 01:55:56
December 20 2013 01:47 GMT
#91610
Am I reading this right, 400% battle bonus until January 3rd? Holy lord, no time for christmas boys

Okay, forget it, 5 euro.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
December 20 2013 01:54 GMT
#91611
Nope apparently not. You can buy it until the 2nd, but each one only lasts 500mins or something
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
December 20 2013 02:12 GMT
#91612
Yep even make it 4000% battle point booster, but make it all drop commons. Good one Valve!
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
December 20 2013 02:24 GMT
#91613
but its freakin 7 bucks.. :3
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 20 2013 02:26 GMT
#91614
On December 20 2013 11:12 trinxified wrote:
Yep even make it 4000% battle point booster, but make it all drop commons. Good one Valve!


Aren't you guaranteed a rare every five levels now from the box?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
December 20 2013 05:10 GMT
#91615
So I played some ranked games tonight, first game lost, down 19, second game win, up 19, third game win up 19.....So basically if you have a winning record you will increase in MMR. but doesnt valve try to force a 50% win ratio by matching you against harder opponents?

Seems kind of pointless if thats the case, since you will never increase your MMR much more than a few hundred points with an only slightly better than 50% win ratio.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 20 2013 05:14 GMT
#91616
On December 20 2013 14:10 Darpa wrote:
So I played some ranked games tonight, first game lost, down 19, second game win, up 19, third game win up 19.....So basically if you have a winning record you will increase in MMR. but doesnt valve try to force a 50% win ratio by matching you against harder opponents?

Seems kind of pointless if thats the case, since you will never increase your MMR much more than a few hundred points with an only slightly better than 50% win ratio.


The reason you end up with a 50% win ratio is because it matches you with equally skilled opponents; because that is your skill level you win about half the time. If you were to increase in skill then your MMR would increase until you're once again winning half your matches. There is no such thing as forcing a 50% win ratio; it is what occurs naturally when the system works.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 05:20:08
December 20 2013 05:19 GMT
#91617
On December 20 2013 14:10 Darpa wrote:
So I played some ranked games tonight, first game lost, down 19, second game win, up 19, third game win up 19.....So basically if you have a winning record you will increase in MMR. but doesnt valve try to force a 50% win ratio by matching you against harder opponents?

Seems kind of pointless if thats the case, since you will never increase your MMR much more than a few hundred points with an only slightly better than 50% win ratio.

First of all, it doesn't force 50% by matching you against harder opponents, it matches you with and against better players. In the end you should end up close to 50%, but you often have winning streaks when you are adjusting your MMR, as when you are just starting out. You don't always get 19 points, it should depend at least on the strenght of both teams, among other things. Your uncertainty drastically changes how fast you move up or down. So no, it's not pointless and you could get hundreds if not over a thousand MMR on a fresh account, for example, moving up extremelly fast.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
December 20 2013 05:19 GMT
#91618
why would the game match you against harder opponents when you can't prove consistency playing against the opponents your matched against now?
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
December 20 2013 05:22 GMT
#91619
On December 20 2013 14:10 Darpa wrote:
So I played some ranked games tonight, first game lost, down 19, second game win, up 19, third game win up 19.....So basically if you have a winning record you will increase in MMR. but doesnt valve try to force a 50% win ratio by matching you against harder opponents?

Seems kind of pointless if thats the case, since you will never increase your MMR much more than a few hundred points with an only slightly better than 50% win ratio.

If you are at the MMR you should be (skill-wise), then the system should give you 50% w/l. If you are better than your current MMR, you will naturally have a >50% winrate and thus go up in MMR.
:)
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-20 05:26:55
December 20 2013 05:23 GMT
#91620
On December 20 2013 14:19 Kuroeeah wrote:
why would the game match you against harder opponents when you can't prove consistency playing against the opponents your matched against now?

Matchmaking systems like this never require consistency. It should actually be easier to move up or down if you are inconsistent, since the uncertainty factor is higher. It's goal is to create even games, not making sure you are good enough to move on to the next level, so it doesn't need to make sure you are better than the other players you are currently playing with before adjusting.

Obvious example is the first few levels. It often increases your MMR by a ton if you dominate a match, which could increase your MMR more than it should. If that happens you just end up losing a few games and it adjusts.
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