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SkelA
Macedonia13090 Posts
On December 15 2013 22:51 TheKefka wrote: not only that but you can get your whole team to suicide into the towers right at the beginning and it will count as a game. And leave after it? | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
Just some things that are.. just not right Most disappointing team: Where is EG? Best carry: Why is Era in the poll options? Why is TC not even in the honorable mentions? Best solo mid: Why is a player that loses his lane in 90% of his matches in the poll options? Best offlaner: Why the hell is RotK there when he has sucked ass for most of the year and has only been doing well since he joined VG? Why the fuck is Yao not in the poll options and how is Bulba not in the honorable mentions over Jessievash whoever that is. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 15 2013 23:10 BlitzerSC wrote: Why is Ember Spirit face so smooth ? It' doesn't feel right. Well he's fire so maybe it's symbolism of fire burning away imperfections and leaving the smooth core or something. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
I tried Drums into Armlet I tried Armlet into Blink and both seem rather inefficient, or I still can't finish off my opponent before the timer runs out, even with help. Rushing Blink works, but I still have the trouble of finishing off my opponent in time and, in reality, with blink dagger; I feel the need to initiate (or stay back and just steal hte kill, in which case; do I really need blink dagger?) Is Shadow Blade a better alternative? | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
gank all the things | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
General route would be bracer/drum+bkb/AC/Heart asap, armlet if your team needed that damage output. Lothar is for fun ninja duel build (go with a good ganker with you). feel free to use mine :D http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=203337558 | ||
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Fatalize
France5210 Posts
On December 15 2013 23:27 AwfuL_ wrote: Holy shit there are some bullshit nominees in the gg.net Awards vote. Just some things that are.. just not right Most disappointing team: Where is EG? Best carry: Why is Era in the poll options? Why is TC not even in the honorable mentions? Best solo mid: Why is a player that loses his lane in 90% of his matches in the poll options? Best offlaner: Why the hell is RotK there when he has sucked ass for most of the year and has only been doing well since he joined VG? Why the fuck is Yao not in the poll options and how is Bulba not in the honorable mentions over Jessievash whoever that is. LOL You're a TL fanboy, fine, but saying TC deserves to be in a poll about best carriesn is pretty hilarious | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
what do you mean?the game ends you leave:D | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
On December 15 2013 23:27 AwfuL_ wrote: Holy shit there are some bullshit nominees in the gg.net Awards vote. Just some things that are.. just not right Most disappointing team: Where is EG? Best carry: Why is Era in the poll options? Why is TC not even in the honorable mentions? Best solo mid: Why is a player that loses his lane in 90% of his matches in the poll options? Best offlaner: Why the hell is RotK there when he has sucked ass for most of the year and has only been doing well since he joined VG? Why the fuck is Yao not in the poll options and how is Bulba not in the honorable mentions over Jessievash whoever that is. Really ? TC is probably the WORST carry in the scene right now, he doesn't even play like a pro. | ||
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
On December 15 2013 23:57 Fatalize wrote: LOL You're a TL fanboy, fine, but saying TC deserves to be in a poll about best carriesn is pretty hilarious I'm glad I was able to entertain you then. He deserves to be in that list just as much or more so than Era, Fear (who hasn't even played carry in most of EG's matches) and Meracle. I guess people like 2009 are just clueless though  On December 16 2013 00:03 BlitzerSC wrote: Really ? TC is probably the WORST carry in the scene right now, he doesn't even play like a pro. Haha. This poll is for the whole of 2013, did you get that? Did I strike a nerve by saying the two Fnatic nominees don't deserve to be there? | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
Second, who is the guy that almost always loses his lane ? H4nn1 ? Oke buddy, go watch his games another time. Third, did you really just play the "fanboy" card ? lmfao | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
On December 16 2013 00:05 AwfuL_ wrote: I'm glad I was able to entertain you then. He deserves to be in that list just as much or more so than Era, Fear (who hasn't even played carry in most of EG's matches) and Meracle. I guess people like 2009 are just clueless though Haha. This poll is for the whole of 2013, did you get that? Did I strike a nerve by saying the two Fnatic nominees don't deserve to be there? Right, and Fnatic did well at TI3, came 2nd at Dreamleague, 2nd at Fragbite, 2nd at EMS and qualified for D2L playoff's in the past couple of months alone. Don't get me wrong, you're right in saying that because it's for the whole of 2013 there are a lot of people/teams missing from the nominee's, but Fnatic have definitely had a good end to the year and shouldn't be discounted at all. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On December 15 2013 23:55 BurningSera wrote: dude you cant expect to do X fixed build on X hero and expect to do well every game...especially a hero like LC is highly dependent to the tempo of the game, basically you get a 'new' game after you got your dagger in every other game, think of him as a less item dependent version of Axe (most of the time all LC needs is a dagger, axe can get whatever) but he is even more dependent to the flow of your game/combos with your team mates. General route would be bracer/drum+bkb/AC/Heart asap, armlet if your team needed that damage output. Lothar is for fun ninja duel build (go with a good ganker with you). feel free to use mine :D http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=203337558 Yeah I know that. Obviously with each scenario, things flex and the priority of items change. Naturally. I'm just reconsidering the priority of Blink Dagger, maybe I just need better coordination with allies. | ||
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
On December 16 2013 00:13 BlitzerSC wrote: LOL No, TC looks good only when he has free farm. As soon as he gets contested he becomes the absolute worst. All the other carries at least showed some big plays and not stuff like "durr look at how im goot with my 6 slotted gyro/am with free farm". Everybody improved, he didn't, in fact I would say that now he is probably worse than he was before. Second, who is the guy that almost always loses his lane ? H4nn1 ? Oke buddy, go watch his games another time. Third, did you really just play the "fanboy" card ? lmfao One, TC finds a more farm when is team is losing than most others. He's also one of the strongest laners out of all the carry players. Source: other carry players and statistics. Liquid as a whole hasn't been doing well in their recent matches. Doesn't mean he's the worst carry of 2013. Just ridiculous tbh. I have watched every Liquid match of 2013, and not just on and off like you probably have. I know what I'm talking about even if I'm going to be biased towards the team. Two, yes, that is H4nni. He loses in cs by whide margins to pretty much everyone unless he has a really advantageous matchup and even then he doesn't do as well as he should. His midgame play is good though Disclaimer: I only watch Fnatic matches against big teams, not Starladder qualifiers and stuff like that. I hardly care how he does against mid players that aren't on a top team.Third, if you're saying H4nni isn't the weakest laner among the mid players on top teams, obviously you're watching through some pretty special glasses. His ganking and midgame farm/global ganking and spell usage is strong though. But he's just not a strong laner, which is a pretty big part of "being the world's best mid player" which is what this vote is about. On December 16 2013 00:17 ReignSupreme. wrote: Right, and Fnatic did well at TI3, came 2nd at Dreamleague, 2nd at Fragbite, 2nd at EMS and qualified for D2L playoff's in the past couple of months alone. Don't get me wrong, you're right in saying that because it's for the whole of 2013 there are a lot of people/teams missing from the nominee's, but Fnatic have definitely had a good end to the year and shouldn't be discounted at all. Yeah and I'm not discounting Fnatic as a team, I never did. This collection of players is one of the best Dota teams, emphasis on 'team' and not on 'players'. Ofcourse all these players are good but not even close to top 5 world material in any of their roles (though there's n0tail wisp...). I bash H4nni's performance in the lane a lot but I like the players on the team and I like watching the team play over pretty much every other team. I think my criticism of his laning is easily justified and I think even H4nni himself would agree it is his weak point. But they're good enough as a team for it not to matter all that much. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
Will TL be doing a best of 2013 write-up? Last years was pretty great: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=393513 | ||
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Cool Cat
United States1644 Posts
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
There really isn't much left to be said. Among all Tier1/2 teams, can you name a carry player who has less impact? The only person that comes to mind is Jeyo before he was pushed to support. Now that was a player that truly could not carry. Outside of that one perfect Gyro game. | ||
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