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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
1)'omfg what a dick denying all my creeps D:' -> get upset -> make mistakes. 2)'muahahah i am denying all his shit, i own him!!!' -> get cocky -> proceed to own harder or get owned. 3)'gg team dendi denied all my creeps i am done mid' -> team proceeds to gank mid nonstop -> dendi is pissed etc. | ||
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Slomo
Germany7198 Posts
 Seriously, any tips to convince people to actually support me instead of doing stuff like dual jungle (Axe + Prophet) and stuff like that? :D | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
On December 10 2013 00:52 Slomo wrote: Torte plz, your AM 6.79 build sucks. I dont make any progress in my A-Z challange because of it. Seriously, any tips to convince people to actually support me instead of doing stuff like dual jungle (Axe + Prophet) and stuff like that? :D stack its the answer to any MM related dota question usually | ||
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Slomo
Germany7198 Posts
On December 10 2013 00:54 Klonere wrote: stack its the answer to any MM related dota question usually Stacking for A-Z challange? You serious? | ||
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Grettin
42417 Posts
gotta get past those tough obstacles you know. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
TBH I expect ranked to include a lot of mad people. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
Great opportunity for pissing people off. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Animzor
Sweden2154 Posts
On December 10 2013 01:19 Sn0_Man wrote: I wonder how the a-z challenge would go over in ranked matchmaking? TBH I expect ranked to include a lot of mad people. Just like any other game mode. | ||
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FuzzyJAM
Scotland9300 Posts
On December 10 2013 00:52 Slomo wrote: Torte plz, your AM 6.79 build sucks. I dont make any progress in my A-Z challange because of it. Seriously, any tips to convince people to actually support me instead of doing stuff like dual jungle (Axe + Prophet) and stuff like that? :D IMO people worry too much about early game for AM in random pubs. Not getting your Battlefury at 12 minutes isn't a disaster if you have a really hard lane; just soak exp and grab a couple last hits wherever possible. Don't be afraid to miss creep waves completely and go jungle and then base if it's totally unsafe to be in lane. In theory, if you have a really hard lane, you should be getting more out of other areas of the map, meaning your team will be able to make more space for you after laning so you can afk farm to catch up without your team losing 4v5. In theory. Obviously it's not ideal, and in such instances you'd much rather have a hero other than AM, but needs must and all that. Just don't die and hope your team really are getting something from leaving you out to dry. In terms of build, 1/1/1 and at least a couple points in stats with PMS into RoH and Treads and Stick (order on these three is negotiable, Stick depends on lane) is by far the best when you're getting no support. Go as safe and non-greedy as possible, especially because you want to be able to jungle semi-effectively as early as possible. Disclaimer: This is mostly theory. I've only played one 6.79 game of AM in similar circumstances. . .which I lost. Others can probably give vastly superior advice. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On December 10 2013 02:18 Kupon3ss wrote: just go offlane AM I think I'm 1-1 with this strat. Seems legit. | ||
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Slomo
Germany7198 Posts
On December 10 2013 01:32 PassiveAce wrote: I like how theres going to be a ranked ap. Great opportunity for pissing people off. Better not random. Otherwise Finol bans you. On December 10 2013 01:44 FuzzyJAM wrote: IMO people worry too much about early game for AM in random pubs. Not getting your Battlefury at 12 minutes isn't a disaster if you have a really hard lane; just soak exp and grab a couple last hits wherever possible. Don't be afraid to miss creep waves completely and go jungle and then base if it's totally unsafe to be in lane. In theory, if you have a really hard lane, you should be getting more out of other areas of the map, meaning your team will be able to make more space for you after laning so you can afk farm to catch up without your team losing 4v5. In theory. Obviously it's not ideal, and in such instances you'd much rather have a hero other than AM, but needs must and all that. Just don't die and hope your team really are getting something from leaving you out to dry. In terms of build, 1/1/1 and at least a couple points in stats with PMS into RoH and Treads and Stick (order on these three is negotiable, Stick depends on lane) is by far the best when you're getting no support. Go as safe and non-greedy as possible, especially because you want to be able to jungle semi-effectively as early as possible. Disclaimer: This is mostly theory. I've only played one 6.79 game of AM in similar circumstances. . .which I lost. Others can probably give vastly superior advice. Dunno. I started skipping the BF in some cases completly and go Vlads instead for jungling. But I feel that I always react to slow to the shitty lanes, should predict them more and actually not bother. I also feel like pubs have adapted too much to "he's in the safe lane, he's fine" while the lane itself isnt much safer than any other lane if you are alone. Even something stupid like a Beastmaster & Clickz lane simply kills me or at least prevents me from farming if I am alone. On December 10 2013 02:18 Kupon3ss wrote: just go offlane AM Watching my last game where the enemy team had a solo clockwerk there. Yep, that would have been the better choice. :D | ||
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On December 10 2013 02:28 Slomo wrote: I started skipping the BF in some cases completly and go Vlads instead for jungling. I understand the attraction here but without a bfury am sux at split pushing, and farming, and all the things that make AM a strong hero. Its frustrating, but thats just kinda how the hero plays out imo. On December 10 2013 02:28 Slomo wrote: I also feel like pubs have adapted too much to "he's in the safe lane, he's fine" while the lane itself isnt much safer than any other lane if you are alone. Even something stupid like a Beastmaster & Clickz lane simply kills me or at least prevents me from farming if I am alone. No need for that beastmaster lol without serious support its easy for an enemy solo like clinkz to outlane you. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
On December 10 2013 02:28 Slomo wrote: Better not random. Otherwise Finol bans you. Dunno. I started skipping the BF in some cases completly and go Vlads instead for jungling. But I feel that I always react to slow to the shitty lanes, should predict them more and actually not bother. I also feel like pubs have adapted too much to "he's in the safe lane, he's fine" while the lane itself isnt much safer than any other lane if you are alone. Even something stupid like a Beastmaster & Clickz lane simply kills me or at least prevents me from farming if I am alone. Watching my last game where the enemy team had a solo clockwerk there. Yep, that would have been the better choice. :D Just go phase boots -> vanguard -> manta -> EB and wreck faces. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On December 10 2013 02:28 Slomo wrote: Even something stupid like a Beastmaster & Clickz lane simply kills me or at least prevents me from farming if I am alone. Clinkz isn't really a "stupid" thing to get outlaned by solo in my opinion. I've been playing a little Clinkz recently and I frequently outlane duos on the safelane as a suicide solo. Those arrows REALLY hurt. | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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