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HazeB7onU
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Kishin2
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
On October 27 2013 10:56 HazeB7onU wrote: If you hook a teammate, do they then have 5 sec of free pathing? If so can that be used for any exploits? I haven't tested it, but I'm almost sure you do. One of the most common reasons for blink hooking into nothingness was griefing after all. | ||
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Grettin
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On October 27 2013 10:38 Excludos wrote: With both brood and bat you can move outside of the borders of the map. No matter how many trees you cut or burn, it doesn't matter if the enemy can't physically reach you in any way shape or form. Its pretty retarded tbh. Wasn't the biggest deal with bat, mostly because he doesn't usually go in the sidelanes. But with brood getting popular because of the update, its near impossible to gank her because you simply can't follow her outside of the map. Same as above. Up to now this hasn't really been much of an issue, although still annoying as hell when it happens, simply because bat was the only one who could do it. After the patch, aside from brood who can also do it at will, its technically possible for any hero to go outside of the borders of the map with the 5 sec freewalk thingie from a blinking pudge or vengeful. Its an exploit that needs fixing asap. Exactly what i was thinking. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
On October 27 2013 10:56 Kishin2 wrote: How is going outside the map a significant problem? If brood is outside the map she's not farming/pushing/doing anything. She can't die, but so what? Its not like the problem is brood going outside the map and sitting there for 20 minutes. The problem is that you can't possibly gank her, even if you have people who can remove trees, truesight, and whatever else required to pull of a good gank. She can just spot you, go outside the map, and you can't touch her. Sure you can argue that brood isn't actually very useful to begin with and this might just be the little extra she needs to be more viable. But it would be far far better to remove the bug and just buff her instead, so other heroes might gain flying or cliffwalk in the future as well. | ||
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Judicator
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
Slark's ulti right now is just like a variation of Abaddon's but better. Absolutely nothing can stop it right now. I mean both are bearable but the Slark one is really stupid. | ||
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Kishin2
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On October 27 2013 11:22 trinxified wrote: A lot of the 6.79 changes just feel silly to me. Brood is one, slark is two, and the rest of the other smaller stuff... Slark's ulti right now is just like a variation of Abaddon's but better. Absolutely nothing can stop it right now. I mean both are bearable but the Slark one is really stupid. Non-targeted damage still hits him. Plus it's fairly obvious that this was always supposed to be Slark's ability purely from the visuals. I imagine that WC3 simply didn't have the capability to make something invisible without being revealable. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
On October 27 2013 11:27 Kishin2 wrote: I really still don't see how that's an issue. Brood's one job in the game is to annoy the enemy team to death. She doesn't do much outside of that. Now she's more annoying. Still is never picked, doesn't win games. People thought the bloodseeker changes were outrageous, but he's still bloodseeker. Unless you convince reddit that the whole thing is outrageous, I don't see it changing. You're missing the point completely in every single direction. It doesn't matter if you can justify walking outside the map for broodmother, because its a bug that affects every hero with cliffwalking, both present and future. You might as well buff broodmother in other aspects and fix the bug instead. | ||
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
On October 27 2013 11:39 Excludos wrote: You're missing the point completely in every single direction. It doesn't matter if you can justify walking outside the map for broodmother, because its a bug that affects every hero with cliffwalking, both present and future. You might as well buff broodmother in other aspects and fix the bug instead. It's a bug that hasn't proven to be too significant with any hero it affects yet. If it becomes significant, sure, fix it. If you prematurely fix something then you potentially lose something amazing (tongfu vs. Na'Vi game 3). | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
when that happens remains to be seen for each individuals games | ||
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
On October 27 2013 11:50 Kishin2 wrote: It's a bug that hasn't proven to be too significant with any hero it affects yet. If it becomes significant, sure, fix it. If you prematurely fix something then you potentially lose something amazing (tongfu vs. Na'Vi game 3). Yeah, you need someone to use the gamebreaking bug to win a game at the international before you fix it.. Well, that wont ever happen, because broodmother is still absolute shit in real games. The only place she excels now is to piss off people in pubs by continuously abuse a bug. edit: Lets put it in this light: Na'vi pudgehooking people into fountain is amazing and top 10 worthy, because it was also kinda tricky to pull off, especially that many times in one game. On the other hand, there will never be a "top 10" moment because a broodmother walked outside the map. Thats not amazing, thats just lame. | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
The only real bug is that units can blink up there and be tossed up there etc (unless that was fixed when I wasn't paying attention). | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
On October 27 2013 08:53 trinxified wrote: I haven't seen much pro games buying it actually... Am I missing something? I do recall a certain rule before in WC3 Dota where you're limited to buy Necro books up to 2 per team. They had that rule on other items too, I think on sheepstick as well. Both WePlay and WPC have had tonnes of Necrobook's being bought over the past week. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
On October 27 2013 13:35 LAN-f34r wrote: How is this a bug? Brood can cliffwalk, so she can go up into those unpathable areas. The only real bug is that units can blink up there and be tossed up there etc (unless that was fixed when I wasn't paying attention). You don't think its a bug to be able to exit the playable map of the game with your hero..? Anyways, its not possible in dota 1. So its a bug in any case (anything that is possible in dota 2 but not in wc3 dota is either confirmed change or a bug) | ||
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LAN-f34r
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ReignSupreme.
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HazeB7onU
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