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Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
October 24 2013 05:29 GMT
#83701
On October 24 2013 10:26 Esoterikk wrote:
Broodmother this patch is such a trash can to play against, unkillable unless you can chain stuns. Was queuing in high and then a losing streak brought me back to normal , finished the night off with a guy stealing my items off courier and selling them.

Having a tough time adjusting to the patch to be honest.



Just played a game where someone on the other team picked Broodmother. We got Bloodseeker and Batrider and just fed off of him all game.
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
October 24 2013 06:16 GMT
#83702
when should i get a skill into moon glaive? i feel it's worth putting a skill into before maxing blessing
CustomKal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada749 Posts
October 24 2013 06:21 GMT
#83703
On October 24 2013 15:16 Kuroeeah wrote:
when should i get a skill into moon glaive? i feel it's worth putting a skill into before maxing blessing


Max blessing is generally still better just because it makes your teammates that much stronger in fights and allows you to take early towers if you want to. Early glaives aren't the greatest when you don't have the damage/attack speed to use them well.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
October 24 2013 06:39 GMT
#83704
On October 24 2013 15:21 CustomKal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 15:16 Kuroeeah wrote:
when should i get a skill into moon glaive? i feel it's worth putting a skill into before maxing blessing


Max blessing is generally still better just because it makes your teammates that much stronger in fights and allows you to take early towers if you want to. Early glaives aren't the greatest when you don't have the damage/attack speed to use them well.

i saw zhou do a 4-2-2 build and i was like..huh
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
October 24 2013 06:40 GMT
#83705
On October 24 2013 10:26 Esoterikk wrote:
Broodmother this patch is such a trash can to play against, unkillable unless you can chain stuns. Was queuing in high and then a losing streak brought me back to normal , finished the night off with a guy stealing my items off courier and selling them.

Having a tough time adjusting to the patch to be honest.


Really, people are still putting in the effort to find out what bracket they queue into despite Valve all but removing it?
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
October 24 2013 06:42 GMT
#83706
On October 24 2013 15:40 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 10:26 Esoterikk wrote:
Broodmother this patch is such a trash can to play against, unkillable unless you can chain stuns. Was queuing in high and then a losing streak brought me back to normal , finished the night off with a guy stealing my items off courier and selling them.

Having a tough time adjusting to the patch to be honest.


Really, people are still putting in the effort to find out what bracket they queue into despite Valve all but removing it?

you can find out if you want to browse through a dumb laundry list of games just to see what bracket your in. whatever, if people still care about it than let them
Souone
Profile Joined July 2012
Brazil470 Posts
October 24 2013 06:46 GMT
#83707
On October 24 2013 15:21 CustomKal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 15:16 Kuroeeah wrote:
when should i get a skill into moon glaive? i feel it's worth putting a skill into before maxing blessing


Max blessing is generally still better just because it makes your teammates that much stronger in fights and allows you to take early towers if you want to. Early glaives aren't the greatest when you don't have the damage/attack speed to use them well.


Zhou usually goes 2 into blessing and then max glaives I think (at least in his latest games). I assume when he starts to get it at 8 he already should have some gear and decent damage to make it worth it.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 06:48:21
October 24 2013 06:46 GMT
#83708
On October 24 2013 15:16 Kuroeeah wrote:
when should i get a skill into moon glaive? i feel it's worth putting a skill into before maxing blessing


Get only 2 points in lunar blessing and then max glaives.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 24 2013 06:49 GMT
#83709
On October 24 2013 15:39 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 15:21 CustomKal wrote:
On October 24 2013 15:16 Kuroeeah wrote:
when should i get a skill into moon glaive? i feel it's worth putting a skill into before maxing blessing


Max blessing is generally still better just because it makes your teammates that much stronger in fights and allows you to take early towers if you want to. Early glaives aren't the greatest when you don't have the damage/attack speed to use them well.

i saw zhou do a 4-2-2 build and i was like..huh

generally around 8~9 so you can clear jungle once lanes start breaking down
you can leave it off for later if you're doing some kind of dedicated 5man but that's rare
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
October 24 2013 07:11 GMT
#83710
Keep in mind Zhou probably last hits better than all of us combined. He has the items which make glaives worth it much sooner than us.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 24 2013 07:25 GMT
#83711
So I played 3 Broodmother games so far. No matter how good you play, you'll always lose. You're so dependent on your team mates not losing 4v5 early to mid game.

I got so farmed that I got Vlads and AC by 18-20 minutes every game. I guess I should team fight and defend more often when I get AC. That was my mistake I think.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 07:38:31
October 24 2013 07:31 GMT
#83712
I'm pretty sure you want to get necrobook on brood now that it's so good. It's also actually good for team fighting.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 07:41:24
October 24 2013 07:40 GMT
#83713
On October 24 2013 16:25 trinxified wrote:
So I played 3 Broodmother games so far. No matter how good you play, you'll always lose. You're so dependent on your team mates not losing 4v5 early to mid game.

I got so farmed that I got Vlads and AC by 18-20 minutes every game. I guess I should team fight and defend more often when I get AC. That was my mistake I think.

honestly vlads and AC arent very gold efficient items (together) on brood unless you follow your team all the time. one is enough but still not apt for midgame play
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Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
October 24 2013 07:42 GMT
#83714
On October 24 2013 16:25 trinxified wrote:
So I played 3 Broodmother games so far. No matter how good you play, you'll always lose. You're so dependent on your team mates not losing 4v5 early to mid game.

I got so farmed that I got Vlads and AC by 18-20 minutes every game. I guess I should team fight and defend more often when I get AC. That was my mistake I think.


What a surprise. That's exactly how brood games played out pre-patch too. Hero still blows.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 07:44:49
October 24 2013 07:44 GMT
#83715
hero is a circus performer. entertaining but unless there's some abusive game breaking cliff action we haven't thought about will probably not see competitive play any time soon
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
October 24 2013 07:46 GMT
#83716
Mistake is that brood players refuse to team fight before like 30 minutes. Works a lot better if you tp in to fight and you let your spiderlings split push.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
October 24 2013 07:55 GMT
#83717
Why don't you get Orchid on Brood and tp to help with fights ?
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 24 2013 07:55 GMT
#83718
Good advise everyone... Will try again.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
October 24 2013 08:35 GMT
#83719
On October 24 2013 16:55 BlitzerSC wrote:
Why don't you get Orchid on Brood and tp to help with fights ?


Because orchid is a solo killing item and not teamfight? lol
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
October 24 2013 08:48 GMT
#83720
Orchid is a good offensive item, but a bad a defensive one.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
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