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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 22 2013 15:26 GMT
#83441
On October 23 2013 00:24 Judicator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2013 23:00 teddyoojo wrote:
On October 22 2013 22:56 Judicator wrote:
I laned against a Brood mid last night with Doom, can't really say anything about it from a match sample of 1, but seems pretty worthless still. The change is nice don't get me wrong, but it just doesn't do anything, mobility was never her problem.

Haven't seen any of the newer heroes, but the jungle change is nice.

wow.... cuz u need the net buff in mid lmao


notails stream is so unwatchable lately


Getting to runes isn't non-significant.

I think you get to runes faster with old brood since you had that "lag time" of speed and invis outside the net.

And brood really has no desire to get runes I don't think (plus can push enough that rune control shouldn't be an issue in the first place).
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pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
October 22 2013 15:34 GMT
#83442
undying is even strong now

hopefully I didnt had to lane against him yet
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
October 22 2013 15:47 GMT
#83443
On October 22 2013 21:31 Firebolt145 wrote:
Because he became really boring to watch.

Hes always been boring to watch. Thankfully it seems like hes now boring and bad instead of just boring.

Also i hope new Bloodseeker will make people realize there should always be an urn of shadows on your team
Dodge arrows
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
October 22 2013 16:57 GMT
#83444
All this broodmother hate

fite me cowards.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
October 22 2013 17:09 GMT
#83445
On October 23 2013 00:34 pedrlz wrote:
undying is even strong now

hopefully I didnt had to lane against him yet

yeah, decay at 40 seconds at level 1 is a nightmare against dual and trilanes. I think he's pretty strong right now, at least in pub games.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 22 2013 17:15 GMT
#83446
agha refresher doom is disgusting lol
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 22 2013 17:18 GMT
#83447
On October 23 2013 02:15 BurningSera wrote:
agha refresher doom is disgusting lol

That would certainly disgust me. Sounds like a huge waste of 4200 gold.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 17:22:34
October 22 2013 17:21 GMT
#83448
On October 23 2013 02:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2013 02:15 BurningSera wrote:
agha refresher doom is disgusting lol

That would certainly disgust me. Sounds like a huge waste of 4200 gold.


funnik is getting owned by that rofl. and they won, doom was the only carryish hero in oppo team, he should have gone for carry items instead.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 22 2013 17:24 GMT
#83449
Delta split or something.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
October 22 2013 17:26 GMT
#83450
Not so sure about aghs, but refresher is pretty situationally awesome on doom. It will sometimes single handily win games, depending on team comps.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 22 2013 17:29 GMT
#83451
refresher's amazing tho I dont' think your burning ground stuff stacks
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-22 17:31:38
October 22 2013 17:31 GMT
#83452
On October 23 2013 02:26 Comeh wrote:
Not so sure about aghs, but refresher is pretty situationally awesome on doom. It will sometimes single handily win games, depending on team comps.



do you mean to tell me that certain items are situationally better than other items given the circumstances and team composition of your enemy?

well I never...
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 22 2013 17:54 GMT
#83453
On October 23 2013 00:34 pedrlz wrote:
undying is even strong now

hopefully I didnt had to lane against him yet

I dont know, in my book the buff doesnt affect him that much as people stopped trilaning already. If you face Undying in a 2v2, most of the time the other team doesnt have the killing power and the decay is just used to zone you out. If thats the case, lower str actually make your consumable more effective. I would be worried about a lot of other things before Undying.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
October 22 2013 18:00 GMT
#83454
This new patch is pretty fun. I bet "lich picker" will become a new pub insult soon.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 22 2013 18:01 GMT
#83455
Lich isn't even fun to play against its like "well I'm glad you are going to be 2 levels ahead of me in 5 minutes regardless of anything I can do in game". I mean, sure I guess if he feeds then maybe not but otherwise its just not fun lol.
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bp1696
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States288 Posts
October 22 2013 18:08 GMT
#83456
The new blink pudge is ridiculous. There are tons of spots that don't grant the free terrain travel, but where you're still trapped. Most of them are in the forest areas, but a good pudge can really exploit it.
Sleep is for the fishes
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
October 22 2013 18:25 GMT
#83457
Afaik if pudge immediately blinks away you can get them stuck everywhere
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 22 2013 18:27 GMT
#83458
On October 23 2013 03:25 Yoshi- wrote:
Afaik if pudge immediately blinks away you can get them stuck everywhere

That was fixed before it went into the live client. Update 5 or 6 not sure which.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 22 2013 18:29 GMT
#83459
On October 23 2013 03:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
Lich isn't even fun to play against its like "well I'm glad you are going to be 2 levels ahead of me in 5 minutes regardless of anything I can do in game". I mean, sure I guess if he feeds then maybe not but otherwise its just not fun lol.

Lich is always annoying to play against and will be unless they remove Sacrifice pretty much.
WriterXiao8~~
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 22 2013 18:30 GMT
#83460
Well yes but him GAINING xp from your loss is like a slap in the face.
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