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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 18:53:13
October 19 2013 18:52 GMT
#83161
I felt like Lycan's junging issues wasn't because of his stats but rather his wolves. The severe HP cut and still high mana cost is what's costing him his jungle ability
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 19 2013 18:55 GMT
#83162
Since the TI2 nerf, it is known for jungling lycan to tank for his wolves the first 2 level. That makes him incredibly vulnerable against ganks but once you get around level 5-6, things should be a lot easier.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
October 19 2013 19:37 GMT
#83163
I think Lycan is still sort of okay even if his jungle isn't insta-win anymore. Like his level 6 still makes him run over people.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
October 19 2013 19:55 GMT
#83164
Mud golems have less armor, little ursa has less hp and the wolves have better magic resist, so they tank the ursa clap better. But you get less exp overall from jungle.
super gg
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 19 2013 19:57 GMT
#83165
lycan was fine in the jungle even before this patch
it just took more micro and ~2 more hp pots than pre wolf nerf
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 19:59:16
October 19 2013 19:58 GMT
#83166
I played Lycan the other day and I wasn't really sure about the proper way to jungle him efficiently. But I still hit 6 around 4.5-5 minutes. I assume that's somewhat standard. If that's considered a major nerf he's still pretty good cause once you're 6 you jungle hella fast.

I wish I played him when he was imba jungle.
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Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
October 19 2013 20:48 GMT
#83167
On October 20 2013 04:58 TheEmulator wrote:
I played Lycan the other day and I wasn't really sure about the proper way to jungle him efficiently. But I still hit 6 around 4.5-5 minutes. I assume that's somewhat standard. If that's considered a major nerf he's still pretty good cause once you're 6 you jungle hella fast.

I wish I played him when he was imba jungle.

Are you sure you hit it that early? Cause that is, all things considered, quite early.

Or my timings are way off.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 21:00:11
October 19 2013 20:59 GMT
#83168
did you have random gold
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 19 2013 21:18 GMT
#83169
That is definitely very early. Maybe you meant you hit Level 5 by 6 minutes lol.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
October 19 2013 21:59 GMT
#83170
just put 3 rares on risingstars, lets see what happens!
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 19 2013 22:09 GMT
#83171
emu are you tripping on a saturday night lol
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
October 19 2013 22:20 GMT
#83172
On October 20 2013 06:59 teddyoojo wrote:
just put 3 rares on risingstars, lets see what happens!


not wise brother, both rs teams are worthless atm.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-19 22:40:12
October 19 2013 22:40 GMT
#83173
If you fissure block creeps into ancients and have leshrac with lvl 1 edict, can you kill the ancients with that? Alternatively, is there another hero that could kill them together with the es?
super gg
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 19 2013 23:03 GMT
#83174
Best hero to clear ancient early level would be ursa. The point is for every camp that is not dragon, you could just use ES and solo the 2 small creep down and kill the big one next wave. But if you get dragon camp, they deal splash damage which clear out your wave incredibly fast plus damaging ES in melee range, effectively cancel his clarity for next fissure.

Just test it out yourself, overall its not worth it for having 2 heroes ancients together, except may be the case of ursa wips on dire which could rosh anytime.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
734pot
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia294 Posts
October 20 2013 00:24 GMT
#83175
Is there a way I can stop myself gaining xp in a private lobby, so I can just constantly practice shadowfiend lvl 1 lasthitting?
Chrobbus
Profile Joined February 2010
Iceland195 Posts
October 20 2013 00:25 GMT
#83176
Okay...... so, for weeks (ever since Funn1k joined Na'Vi) the following has been in Funn1k's stream description: "FP stream from Empire.Funn1k, visit us @ empiretv.org and team-empire.org"

Personally I have indicated this information in his stream chat shortly after he joined Na'Vi but nothing has changed. I am, truly, absolutely baffled that he has not changed this information yet. Does anyone know what the 'fuck' is up with that? :o
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
October 20 2013 00:27 GMT
#83177
On October 20 2013 09:25 Chrobbus wrote:
Okay...... so, for weeks (ever since Funn1k joined Na'Vi) the following has been in Funn1k's stream description: "FP stream from Empire.Funn1k, visit us @ empiretv.org and team-empire.org"

Personally I have indicated this information in his stream chat shortly after he joined Na'Vi but nothing has changed. I am, truly, absolutely baffled that he has not changed this information yet. Does anyone know what the 'fuck' is up with that? :o

why is this a big deal?
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
October 20 2013 00:32 GMT
#83178
the max 5 viewers he gets through teamliquid just dont matter
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-20 00:37:14
October 20 2013 00:37 GMT
#83179
On October 20 2013 09:24 734pot wrote:
Is there a way I can stop myself gaining xp in a private lobby, so I can just constantly practice shadowfiend lvl 1 lasthitting?


Create a bane and enfeeble the shadowfiend.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 20 2013 00:45 GMT
#83180
alternatively spawn a lot of extra heroes and leave them around such that they leech XP.
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