• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:31
CEST 10:31
KST 17:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2313Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon111
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double Recent Patches and the Future Stellar Fest 1 Replay Pack Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) 2026 GSTL Grand Finals SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ] ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder Where can I find Flash replays that work? a Announcement on the JEDI Ringing Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 3 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine All you football fans (soccer)! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Violent-Cooperative Play and…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10163 users

General Discussion - Page 4144

Forum Index > Dota 2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4142 4143 4144 4145 4146 6534 Next
IRC chatter should remain in IRC - http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=tl.dota2

Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 17 2013 19:14 GMT
#82861
dual lanes already work amazingly if your teammate isnt a potato. now its going to be even easier.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 17 2013 19:15 GMT
#82862
On October 18 2013 04:11 Incze wrote:
I don't get it. This is so massive and weird. Why would icefrog do this?

The lat huge patch was nuts too. Everything was crazy and kind of awesome.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
October 17 2013 19:17 GMT
#82863
I feel like this is the goofiest things have been since 6.48.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
October 17 2013 19:19 GMT
#82864
Feels like we're gonna play a whole new game. He's really targetting the old relic mechanics of DotA this time.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
October 17 2013 19:31 GMT
#82865
On October 18 2013 04:15 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 04:11 Incze wrote:
I don't get it. This is so massive and weird. Why would icefrog do this?

The lat huge patch was nuts too. Everything was crazy and kind of awesome.

Bloodseeker moves faster than storm ult, I'd say crazy is an understatement.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
October 17 2013 19:32 GMT
#82866
On October 18 2013 04:31 Esoterikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2013 04:15 Plansix wrote:
On October 18 2013 04:11 Incze wrote:
I don't get it. This is so massive and weird. Why would icefrog do this?

The lat huge patch was nuts too. Everything was crazy and kind of awesome.

Bloodseeker moves faster than storm ult, I'd say crazy is an understatement.

Can move =/= moves
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 17 2013 19:32 GMT
#82867
ha, isnt MLG the first LAN that gona be using this new patch?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
October 17 2013 19:33 GMT
#82868
On October 18 2013 04:32 NB wrote:
ha, isnt MLG the first LAN that gona be using this new patch?

Is the new patch gonna be up tomorrow? So no.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 17 2013 19:37 GMT
#82869
Very soon, if is like the previous patches.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
October 17 2013 19:46 GMT
#82870
On October 18 2013 04:32 NB wrote:
ha, isnt MLG the first LAN that gona be using this new patch?


Looks like it. I'm not even sure I want to play this patch, it looks awful.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
October 17 2013 19:50 GMT
#82871
this is gonna be awesome guys
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3473 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 19:55:38
October 17 2013 19:53 GMT
#82872
Why makes things so volatile. Why IF is going the way of "terrible, terrible damage", where is the defender advantages now?

Another thing so not like IF is the universal, multi-directional nerf. Buff what it's good at, and makes its weakness more apparent, isn't how it supposed to be? Carry Alch got a direct nerf from the trilane nerf, why still smashed his carry power to the ground?

With the building change while NP stays the same? Is he encouraging more action or more rat doto? Buyback got hammered, is there a reason to ever getting in a teamfight now? Not sure how more NP_esque would increase spectator experience?

Some of the direct value buff do not make sense at all, since the hero has 0 issue in that specific aspect (i.e. ES buff). Why buff an already strong hero, leave other very strong heroes the same, while continue smashing popular but not rly that strong (too many nerf) into the ground.

IF should have learned from his mistake to not overdo a skill, but we have the New Bloodseeker and Disruptor now. Also, should not make exceptions. Disruptor ulti now is the only AOE item silence, Lich is the only hero who still have xp while sitting at base doing nothing.

One more thing with the volatility. Skill does not necessary overcome luck anymore. No matter how big of a lead a team has acquired, late game teamfight lost. It's a 10k swing, with the change in spree reward, buyback etc...

The bara nerf shows that IF care about pub. But why doesn't he learn from mistake and be careful next time he buff some pub heroes. Just look at that Riki, it does not really make sense.

Fir item, it's so weird. Look at the tranquil boots. Seem familiar does it, I wonder what kind of boot provide armor b4 but he finally realized it was a bad idea. Oh now let's implement it again.

I still have many more thoughts but I need to sleep now... So tired...
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
October 17 2013 19:56 GMT
#82873
Patch summary: Buffs, buffs, more gold, less jungle, easier laning, more killing, +++skill, +mobility, other crazy stuff.

Seems like more PvP less PvE directed changes.
Lemonayd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States745 Posts
October 17 2013 19:58 GMT
#82874
D2CL
+ Show Spoiler +
Congrats TL, great win over Navi :D
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 17 2013 20:05 GMT
#82875
On October 18 2013 04:56 Kishin2 wrote:
Patch summary: Buffs, buffs, more gold, less jungle, easier laning, more killing, +++skill, +mobility, other crazy stuff.

Seems like more PvP less PvE directed changes.


exactly the point of the patch, same with last patch. icefrog wants more action less farming which makes games more fun to watch and play.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-17 20:07:55
October 17 2013 20:05 GMT
#82876
fuckign denied of 15 rares fucking dotalounge bots

also bet 4 rares on lgdint, get 61

ah ok that changed very very quickly
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 17 2013 20:08 GMT
#82877
http://www.gamebreaker.tv/news/blizzard-announces-heroes-of-the-storm-in-new-video/


the true moba cometh
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
October 17 2013 20:11 GMT
#82878
HotS best moba
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
October 17 2013 20:12 GMT
#82879
On October 18 2013 05:08 FinestHour wrote:
http://www.gamebreaker.tv/news/blizzard-announces-heroes-of-the-storm-in-new-video/


the true moba cometh


If its anything like the one I played at Blizzcon no thank you.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
October 17 2013 21:25 GMT
#82880
I'm starting to know how Stancel feels when he plays on USE for tlih. I have an account that I've been playing on with my friend from Singapore for like two months and most of our games are on SEA, and I get 250 ping. Anyways, it's a neat story because he's a friend from elementary that moved back to singapore in grade 6, and we occasionally talk through facebook, but it's been a few years and he contacted me again a few months back. We talked about our current interests/jobs/studies and he was like I play Dota 2, and I was like HOLY SHIT SO DO I. He's pretty legit which is even better, but taht damn SEA server not fun.
Administrator
Prev 1 4142 4143 4144 4145 4146 6534 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 29m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
actioN 512
Hyuk 310
910 230
Killer 76
Dewaltoss 59
Yoon 47
Shinee 34
Mind 28
ZergMaN 27
NotJumperer 26
[ Show more ]
Bale 21
yabsab 19
Noble 8
Dota 2
XcaliburYe130
League of Legends
JimRising 483
Counter-Strike
olofmeister892
ceh9538
Heroes of the Storm
crisheroes2161
Khaldor428
Other Games
singsing1021
Sick241
Mew2King136
XBOCT103
ArmadaUGS41
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick713
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream300
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH150
• LUISG 25
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2308
League of Legends
• Jankos967
• Stunt569
Other Games
• WagamamaTV59
Upcoming Events
Kung Fu Cup
2h 29m
Stellar Fest
4h 29m
The PondCast
1d 1h
OSC
1d 4h
Stellar Fest
1d 4h
OSC
1d 15h
Stellar Fest
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Online Event
3 days
FEL
3 days
[ Show More ]
AI Arena Tournament
3 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
INu's Battles
4 days
herO vs Classic
Percival vs Rogue
BSL Open Qualifier
4 days
BSL Open Qualifier
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
INu's Battles
6 days
SHIN vs Cure
ByuN vs Zoun
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-27
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.