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On September 27 2013 03:10 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 03:03 trinxified wrote:On September 27 2013 02:59 BlitzerSC wrote:
Well you can just... nuke him down low and then right click him. Which will usually take 3+ heroes to do, and most of the time he'll take at least 1 with him to die. While the rest of his team is dominating the other areas of the map because of the dedication to kill this beast. ? chainstun works the same way on huskar than on every other heroes
Permastun sure would, but a big part of stun stacking is just the raw damage from the nukes bringing the hero to 1/3 life anyhow. With huskar, even with proper stun stacking you are looking at a 1/2 health hero with a crazy big heal.
My answer to huskar is usually to try to avoid fighting against him until post-25 minutes whenever his inability to flash farm starts to show through. That sometimes takes team coordination to explain that you DON'T want to gank their carry, so he sometimes stomps anyway.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
A good BH wrecks pubs because of the heavy fighting/overextending nature of pubs
remember that if your teammates can't farm for shit at the very least they will get the track $$, plus you know, people don't sentry ward everything in pubs.
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United States47024 Posts
On September 27 2013 03:33 Kipsate wrote:
A good BH wrecks pubs because of the heavy fighting/overextending nature of pubs
remember that if your teammates can't farm for shit at the very least they will get the track $$, plus you know, people don't sentry ward everything in pubs.
I think BH is good if you're in mid-level pubs.
In low level pubs where all 9 other players are goons, BH can be awkward because his inherent solo-killing power is not that strong. With just 1 other competent player, he is very powerful, though.
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On September 27 2013 03:50 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 03:33 Kipsate wrote:
A good BH wrecks pubs because of the heavy fighting/overextending nature of pubs
remember that if your teammates can't farm for shit at the very least they will get the track $$, plus you know, people don't sentry ward everything in pubs. I think BH is good if you're in mid-level pubs. In low level pubs where all 9 other players are goons, BH can be awkward because his inherent solo-killing power is not that strong. With just 1 other competent player, he is very powerful, though.
To be honest, in low level pubs individual hero kits really don't matter all that much as optimal play isnt necessary to crush opponents. Basher ogre magi FTW.
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ogre magis with skill don't need items to permastun
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On September 27 2013 02:07 Darkren wrote:
Gonna do some theory crafting about OD.
Right now his astral steal 2/4/6/8 int per cast, this leads that at around lv 5 he can destroys u mid because if he can get close to 3 stacks on you that is 18 int lost, (early when you are trying to get your upgraded boots and only have a bottle as mid this can be crushing, this leads to stupid like 50 mana pool).
What about we rework this a bit so that he steal 1/2/3/4 int to the hero but gains double to him, so he gains 2/4/6/8 int. This nerfs his ability to reduce the manapool of the opponent and nerfs a little the ult. His base damage and attack damage gain from astral remain unchained.
Do i deserve a medal or what
There we go playing 6.74 again.
In 6.75 astral was buffed to 4/6/8/10. That's why he's no opressive from level 1. +8 damage that early is no joke and he can easily 4/4 waves with that against most heroes.
The problem is that he steals bonus int. Without that you could have heroes get 3 branches and have the ability to cast spells against him without limiting yourself to like... just razor. It would also help OD become better because then people would actually try to use him more midgame by stopping astral at level 2 and could be getting orb at level 8 after maxed essence aura.
That being said, his ms and armor are too high right now. A nerf to either would be fine IMO, though I hope he wouldn't do both.
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On September 27 2013 04:02 Stancel wrote:
ogre magis with skill don't need items to permastun
Skill implies I level my ultimate, which seemed a waste at the time since all I had were stats and bloodlust....
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On September 27 2013 04:06 LeLoup wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 02:07 Darkren wrote:
Gonna do some theory crafting about OD.
Right now his astral steal 2/4/6/8 int per cast, this leads that at around lv 5 he can destroys u mid because if he can get close to 3 stacks on you that is 18 int lost, (early when you are trying to get your upgraded boots and only have a bottle as mid this can be crushing, this leads to stupid like 50 mana pool).
What about we rework this a bit so that he steal 1/2/3/4 int to the hero but gains double to him, so he gains 2/4/6/8 int. This nerfs his ability to reduce the manapool of the opponent and nerfs a little the ult. His base damage and attack damage gain from astral remain unchained.
Do i deserve a medal or what There we go playing 6.74 again. In 6.75 astral was buffed to 4/6/8/10. That's why he's no opressive from level 1. +8 damage that early is no joke and he can easily 4/4 waves with that against most heroes. The problem is that he steals bonus int. Without that you could have heroes get 3 branches and have the ability to cast spells against him without limiting yourself to like... just razor. It would also help OD become better because then people would actually try to use him more midgame by stopping astral at level 2 and could be getting orb at level 8 after maxed essence aura. That being said, his ms and armor are too high right now. A nerf to either would be fine IMO, though I hope he wouldn't do both.
OD just need shorter duration but better int steal on higher levels imho. Destroy less the lane and make it more useful in mid-late game. Something like 30 secs for 4/8/12/16 int steal.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
On the other hand, denied creeps during astral actually do give experience in Dota 2.
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Apparently its Qojqva's birthday today (that or he lied when making his TL acct)
Somebody should make him a happy bday thread.
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28103 Posts
On September 27 2013 05:12 Sn0_Man wrote:
Apparently its Qojqva's birthday today (that or he lied when making his TL acct)
Somebody should make him a happy bday thread.
Maybe he misread it and put his join date, lol 
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On September 27 2013 05:11 Kipsate wrote:
On the other hand, denied creeps during astral actually do give experience in Dota 2.
I thought they fixed this?
Edit apparently not.
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On September 27 2013 05:19 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 05:11 Kipsate wrote:
On the other hand, denied creeps during astral actually do give experience in Dota 2. I thought they fixed this? Edit apparently not.
Im not sure its suppose to be fixed tbh. In dota 1 you wouldn't get xp when astralled because your hero would be transported off the map if I remember correctly. But in dota 2 this isn't an issue, and I see no gameplay reason why you shouldn't get denyxp in this situation other than to make OD even more powerful 1v1 than he already is.
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On September 27 2013 03:33 Kipsate wrote:
A good BH wrecks pubs because of the heavy fighting/overextending nature of pubs
remember that if your teammates can't farm for shit at the very least they will get the track $$, plus you know, people don't sentry ward everything in pubs.
You also get way more experience vs a pub dual lane than you would vs a properly run tri lane
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On September 27 2013 05:11 Kipsate wrote:
On the other hand, denied creeps during astral actually do give experience in Dota 2.
It was stealth fixed in 6.76 or 6.77 don't remember. It now give exp in dota1 too.
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
So this just happened. My roommate starts a match, his girlfriend calls him and he has to leave. He asks me if I can finish the game, so that he doesn't have to leave. I say fine, stomp hard because his account is in a much lower bracket. At the end of a game a fucking Waldi the Faithful legendary courier drops for him. :D
Match id: 323713030
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On September 27 2013 07:14 cecek wrote:
So this just happened. My roommate starts a match, his girlfriend calls him and he has to leave. He asks me if I can finish the game, so that he doesn't have to leave. I say fine, stomp hard because his account is in a much lower bracket. At the end of a game a fucking Waldi the Faithful legendary courier drops for him. :D
Match id: 323713030
you can now send that courier to your acc without sandbox. LOL
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On September 27 2013 07:14 cecek wrote:
So this just happened. My roommate starts a match, his girlfriend calls him and he has to leave. He asks me if I can finish the game, so that he doesn't have to leave. I say fine, stomp hard because his account is in a much lower bracket. At the end of a game a fucking Waldi the Faithful legendary courier drops for him. :D
Match id: 323713030
I think you meant Waldi the Faithful legendary courier dropped for you 
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Czech Republic18921 Posts
I'm not taking it, that would be a dick move. I wouldn't even use him, I like my compendium Smeevil.
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