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vndestiny
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
I'm still mad over 1.0 str gain  | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
seriously tho, aba is broken | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
On September 18 2013 14:20 Shaella wrote: I've decided to change my sig to reflect my current opinion on the state of balance seriously tho, aba is broken He's been like that for a while though... But he did get a MS boost from 6.78 6.75 patch made him so good though: | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On September 18 2013 14:30 trinxified wrote: He's been like that for a while though... But he did get a MS boost. I don't know, all I know is that hero is retarded. He just walks in and does whatever he wants. And wins. Whenever I play Aba i feel like the rules just don't fucking apply to me | ||
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Kuroeeah
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
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dfs
Russian Federation4050 Posts
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Kuroeeah
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KlaCkoN
Sweden1661 Posts
Finally in mid and late game engagements a lot of lds survivability comes from standing far back from the fighting and having a fuckton of armour, ench doesn't care at all about either of those, while at the same time being virtually untouchable herself. | ||
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Kuroeeah
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On September 18 2013 14:37 dfs wrote: Every time someone says "that non-Furion hero is broken, nerf pls" I just look at Furion and it makes me sad. People have a weird sense of perspective when it comes to broken heroes. idk, Furion is pretty fucking dumb too. I feel like he can be dealt w/ a bit better tho | ||
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
On September 18 2013 14:37 KlaCkoN wrote: I don't know, as someone who plays ld a lot a feel he has a point. (ench being good vs ld that is). Ench probably has the strongest lvl 1-3 ganks in the game, a period where ld is very weak. Mid ld is a lot more vulnerable than safe lane, but any ganks on him pre lvl 6 are very scary no matter where he lanes and ench does that very well. Further LDs role as a carry is very much based around giving his team a mid game tower gold advantage with which to push a reasonably early high ground. Enchantress excels at taking towers in the early game, and ld provides no counter push whatsoever which potentially nullifies one of his mid game strengths somewhat. (If his timing push is merely catching up on towers instead of building a tower gold lead that's bad) Finally in mid and late game engagements a lot of lds survivability comes from standing far back from the fighting and having a fuckton of armour, ench doesn't care at all about either of those, while at the same time being virtually untouchable herself. I feel that sylla can generally do well against almost every other character. not to imply that she's a counter or anything (she's not) but enchantress's pure damage hurts a lot for both you and especially your bear and i seriously think it's a mistake to even touch her in fights. | ||
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Kuroeeah
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On September 18 2013 14:37 dfs wrote: Every time someone says "that non-Furion hero is broken, nerf pls" I just look at Furion and it makes me sad. People have a weird sense of perspective when it comes to broken heroes. A lot of people would argue Wisp is broken, dendi on the other hand stated in an interview that he's not and can be played against (kky said this a long while ago as well). i don't really have an opinion on wisp though. Furion can be argued for being broken but you don't nearly see him banned as much as say a bat. I think alchemist needs a bit of a nerf, Greevil's greed specifically. i feel that od should be nerfed a little as well. on the flip side though, you can say the same about people's opinions on what heroes should be given buffs. invoker, broodmother etc but i think both are quite fine. --- I mean it's hard to speak on the issue because everyone has their own opinions on what they would change about the game that may or may not be factored by certain biases. The topic as a whole should just be left to Icefrog skyping a bunch of pro's he has on his contacts on what their opinions of the current state of the game is....why icefrog uses skype to do this i dont know | ||
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dfs
Russian Federation4050 Posts
You can talk about how broken some heroes are (the brand new are a bit of a different story, though), but if we have someone like Furion in constant play I don't think the discussions like these have much of a point. That's just my point of view. | ||
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Kuroeeah
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On September 18 2013 15:03 dfs wrote: I must elaborate a little. I feel like the Furion is the most fucking retarded hero in the game, but for different reasons he is almost never banned. So, if such a broken hero gets constant playtime and no one really talks about him, then there is a chance that other broken heroes, like Abba will end up in the same spot. You can talk about how broken some heroes are (the brand new are a bit of a different story, though), but if we have someone like Furion in constant play I don't think the discussions like these have much of a point. That's just my point of view. The thing about Furion is that he wasn't consistent, he literally phased out from being top pick/ban material from early-ish 2012 to back in only as of recently without even having any significant changes to the character. He was always around but for various reasons (meta, pace of the game, etc) has went full circle from being a top pick/ban, never been seen (nyx/mag/naga/morphling/w.e meta) to arriving back to where he was from the start. | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
1. give more experience and bounty for killing Treants. 2. casting Teleportation will break invisibility. 3. higher cooldown on Nature's Call. 4. higher cooldown on Teleportation. Actually I only really want the first one to be implemented. The rest I'm fine not being touched. | ||
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
On September 18 2013 15:03 dfs wrote: I must elaborate a little. I feel like the Furion is the most fucking retarded hero in the game, but for different reasons he is almost never banned. So, if such a broken hero gets constant playtime and no one really talks about him, then there is a chance that other broken heroes, like Abba will end up in the same spot. You can talk about how broken some heroes are (the brand new are a bit of a different story, though), but if we have someone like Furion in constant play I don't think the discussions like these have much of a point. That's just my point of view. In my opinion, unlike all the new hero's types of broken, Prophet's overpowered in pretty one aspect. His global teleport on a low cooldown. Technically, there's ways to counter a prophet(by ganking it), but there's no real way to counter a new broken hero's skill set(Phoenix when it was first released for example,that shit was gay). However this doesn't take into account the player skills involved, good luck in trying to gank a Prophet who has good game sense and does the right things. You will seldom succeed for the amount of effort you put into ganking it. What prophet needs is a slight tweak to it's teleport's cooldown. That will make it more tenable without totally breaking it's strong point. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
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