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On September 14 2013 10:30 Erandorr wrote: Guys i just got my creeps fissureblocked for 6 mins into 12 wave attack on our towers. Since when is shit allowed in dota sounds like free gold for Kotl of the light
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On September 14 2013 10:29 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 10:07 hideo wrote:On September 14 2013 09:41 Erasme wrote: Split pushing is effective at every level of the matchmaking, however rushing BoT will make you useless and can lose you games Fast BoTs don't have much to do with split pushing at all. Outside of Tinker who wants BoT ASAP... I think the last time I've seen a BoT-rushing split pusher was Lakelz-style morphling and that wasn't popular at all. I guess meepo qualifies too, but you want the agh staff first. OTOH, BoT-first bat, solo bane, beastmaster, etc. is devastating, because you can attend every single little skirmish that breaks out. Now that I think about it, it's kinda sad BoT-first necrolyte isn't a thing anymore. I'm saying that rushing BoT is bad. And how isnt fast BoT related to splitpush ? jesus and bot first anything (bar tinker) is subpar. Bane/Bat wants a blink or arcane, bm wants a mek or a blink before even considering BoT. Just saying it's a bad association. It's much more of a power ganker item early on, and is picked up only much later in split push application. Even then the BB-into-fight is the much more relevant aspect imo.
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On September 14 2013 10:39 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 10:30 Erandorr wrote: Guys i just got my creeps fissureblocked for 6 mins into 12 wave attack on our towers. Since when is shit allowed in dota sounds like free gold for Kotl of the light
of what kind of shit are we talking about here ?
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On September 14 2013 10:45 Darkren wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 10:39 NB wrote:On September 14 2013 10:30 Erandorr wrote: Guys i just got my creeps fissureblocked for 6 mins into 12 wave attack on our towers. Since when is shit allowed in dota sounds like free gold for Kotl of the light of what kind of shit are we talking about here ? People were saying it would never work in a competitive game, nb makes a stupid comment when it works in mm.
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On September 14 2013 10:53 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 10:45 Darkren wrote:On September 14 2013 10:39 NB wrote:On September 14 2013 10:30 Erandorr wrote: Guys i just got my creeps fissureblocked for 6 mins into 12 wave attack on our towers. Since when is shit allowed in dota sounds like free gold for Kotl of the light of what kind of shit are we talking about here ? People were saying it would never work in a competitive game, nb makes a stupid comment when it works in mm.
You need a coordinated team to somehow deal with it i guess. what really hurt in my game is that they parked a fucking axe at the tower. what can you do but stare at that guy
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Farm jungle I guess, let the supports rotate mid or their easy lane to be useful.
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On September 14 2013 10:56 Erasme wrote: Farm jungle I guess, let the supports rotate mid or their easy lane to be useful.
yeah probably just pull for yourself and tell everyone else to rotate. problem that gets overlooked is that you will be lvl 2 most likely and the axe is gonna have 6 when they push in your tower. its not just farm its the levels that just go poof
Actually if you pull correctly hes probably gonna be 3-4. need to know what you are dealing with first though, i was really really confused
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On September 14 2013 10:53 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 10:45 Darkren wrote:On September 14 2013 10:39 NB wrote:On September 14 2013 10:30 Erandorr wrote: Guys i just got my creeps fissureblocked for 6 mins into 12 wave attack on our towers. Since when is shit allowed in dota sounds like free gold for Kotl of the light of what kind of shit are we talking about here ? People were saying it would never work in a competitive game, nb makes a stupid comment when it works in mm. what is 'it' exactly? and I dont think its smart when you just straight up calling people stupid without proofs.
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On September 14 2013 10:58 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 10:56 Erasme wrote: Farm jungle I guess, let the supports rotate mid or their easy lane to be useful. yeah probably just pull for yourself and tell everyone else to rotate. problem that gets overlooked is that you will be lvl 2 most likely and the axe is gonna have 6 when they push in your tower. its not just farm its the levels that just go poof Actually if you pull correctly hes probably gonna be 3-4. need to know what you are dealing with first though, i was really really confused
Can't really stare at Axe since he'll cast battle hunger on you too.
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On September 14 2013 10:54 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 10:53 Erasme wrote:On September 14 2013 10:45 Darkren wrote:On September 14 2013 10:39 NB wrote:On September 14 2013 10:30 Erandorr wrote: Guys i just got my creeps fissureblocked for 6 mins into 12 wave attack on our towers. Since when is shit allowed in dota sounds like free gold for Kotl of the light of what kind of shit are we talking about here ? People were saying it would never work in a competitive game, nb makes a stupid comment when it works in mm. You need a coordinated team to somehow deal with it i guess. what really hurt in my game is that they parked a fucking axe at the tower. what can you do but stare at that guy There's a Youtube video posted a few pages (like 100 or so) back where some guys were doing it. I'm guessing that might be related to your trials.
Isn't doing this banned in competitive or something? I know it used to be, at least, but that was the same era when you weren't allowed to have more than one sheep per team.
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On September 14 2013 11:08 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 10:53 Erasme wrote:On September 14 2013 10:45 Darkren wrote:On September 14 2013 10:39 NB wrote:On September 14 2013 10:30 Erandorr wrote: Guys i just got my creeps fissureblocked for 6 mins into 12 wave attack on our towers. Since when is shit allowed in dota sounds like free gold for Kotl of the light of what kind of shit are we talking about here ? People were saying it would never work in a competitive game, nb makes a stupid comment when it works in mm. what is 'it' exactly? and I dont think its smart when you just straight up calling people stupid without proofs. Oh so now Kotl of the light is smart ? Sick.
On September 14 2013 11:09 trinxified wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 10:58 Erandorr wrote:On September 14 2013 10:56 Erasme wrote: Farm jungle I guess, let the supports rotate mid or their easy lane to be useful. yeah probably just pull for yourself and tell everyone else to rotate. problem that gets overlooked is that you will be lvl 2 most likely and the axe is gonna have 6 when they push in your tower. its not just farm its the levels that just go poof Actually if you pull correctly hes probably gonna be 3-4. need to know what you are dealing with first though, i was really really confused Can't really stare at Axe since he'll cast battle hunger on you too. In that game, I guess supports will need to protect the am for him to pull safely until pms/roh or just lvl3 if hes competent.
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extremely low chance that it will work in competitive. why do people want to use axe when you can use dark seer anyway
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On September 14 2013 11:28 rabidch wrote: extremely low chance that it will work in competitive. why do people want to use axe when you can use dark seer anyway So you can battlehunger people and leave them with no good way to get it off
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On September 14 2013 11:30 Shaella wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 11:28 rabidch wrote: extremely low chance that it will work in competitive. why do people want to use axe when you can use dark seer anyway So you can battlehunger people and leave them with no good way to get it off why would battle hunger be higher than level 2 is my question, by the time good teams will take countermeasures against this they will do it before axe hits level 3
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On September 14 2013 11:31 rabidch wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 11:30 Shaella wrote:On September 14 2013 11:28 rabidch wrote: extremely low chance that it will work in competitive. why do people want to use axe when you can use dark seer anyway So you can battlehunger people and leave them with no good way to get it off why would battle hunger be higher than level 2 is my question, by the time good teams will take countermeasures against this they will do it before axe hits level 3 Even bad teams can 2v1 him at level 1. If they can't, then they wouldn't have won against a normal Axe lane.
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If you notice they have an ES and the first wave isn't coming, you just pick 2 people and go from top rune to in between their tower, ES has to clarity every fissure so you can prevent him doing it if not just killing him.
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On September 14 2013 12:00 MrCon wrote: If you notice they have an ES and the first wave isn't coming, you just pick 2 people and go from top rune to in between their tower, ES has to clarity every fissure so you can prevent him doing it if not just killing him. The flaw with that is that their teammates can TP in and just kill you. Of course, this IS a pub, so...
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Level 1 TP, you don't see that every day :o Just the logistic of buying a TP at lvl1 is complicated for radiant. The money is another one.
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