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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 14 2013 01:39 GMT
#77681
On September 14 2013 10:30 Erandorr wrote:
Guys i just got my creeps fissureblocked for 6 mins into 12 wave attack on our towers. Since when is shit allowed in dota

sounds like free gold for Kotl of the light
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 14 2013 01:40 GMT
#77682
Imma leave it here again

+ Show Spoiler +
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hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
September 14 2013 01:44 GMT
#77683
On September 14 2013 10:29 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 10:07 hideo wrote:
On September 14 2013 09:41 Erasme wrote:
Split pushing is effective at every level of the matchmaking, however rushing BoT will make you useless and can lose you games

Fast BoTs don't have much to do with split pushing at all. Outside of Tinker who wants BoT ASAP... I think the last time I've seen a BoT-rushing split pusher was Lakelz-style morphling and that wasn't popular at all. I guess meepo qualifies too, but you want the agh staff first.

OTOH, BoT-first bat, solo bane, beastmaster, etc. is devastating, because you can attend every single little skirmish that breaks out.

Now that I think about it, it's kinda sad BoT-first necrolyte isn't a thing anymore.

I'm saying that rushing BoT is bad. And how isnt fast BoT related to splitpush ? jesus
and bot first anything (bar tinker) is subpar. Bane/Bat wants a blink or arcane, bm wants a mek or a blink before even considering BoT.

Just saying it's a bad association. It's much more of a power ganker item early on, and is picked up only much later in split push application. Even then the BB-into-fight is the much more relevant aspect imo.
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
September 14 2013 01:45 GMT
#77684
On September 14 2013 10:39 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 10:30 Erandorr wrote:
Guys i just got my creeps fissureblocked for 6 mins into 12 wave attack on our towers. Since when is shit allowed in dota

sounds like free gold for Kotl of the light


of what kind of shit are we talking about here ?
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 14 2013 01:53 GMT
#77685
On September 14 2013 10:45 Darkren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 10:39 NB wrote:
On September 14 2013 10:30 Erandorr wrote:
Guys i just got my creeps fissureblocked for 6 mins into 12 wave attack on our towers. Since when is shit allowed in dota

sounds like free gold for Kotl of the light


of what kind of shit are we talking about here ?

People were saying it would never work in a competitive game, nb makes a stupid comment when it works in mm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
September 14 2013 01:54 GMT
#77686
On September 14 2013 10:53 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 10:45 Darkren wrote:
On September 14 2013 10:39 NB wrote:
On September 14 2013 10:30 Erandorr wrote:
Guys i just got my creeps fissureblocked for 6 mins into 12 wave attack on our towers. Since when is shit allowed in dota

sounds like free gold for Kotl of the light


of what kind of shit are we talking about here ?

People were saying it would never work in a competitive game, nb makes a stupid comment when it works in mm.


You need a coordinated team to somehow deal with it i guess. what really hurt in my game is that they parked a fucking axe at the tower. what can you do but stare at that guy
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 14 2013 01:56 GMT
#77687
Farm jungle I guess, let the supports rotate mid or their easy lane to be useful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-14 01:59:56
September 14 2013 01:58 GMT
#77688
On September 14 2013 10:56 Erasme wrote:
Farm jungle I guess, let the supports rotate mid or their easy lane to be useful.


yeah probably just pull for yourself and tell everyone else to rotate. problem that gets overlooked is that you will be lvl 2 most likely and the axe is gonna have 6 when they push in your tower. its not just farm its the levels that just go poof

Actually if you pull correctly hes probably gonna be 3-4. need to know what you are dealing with first though, i was really really confused
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 14 2013 02:08 GMT
#77689
On September 14 2013 10:53 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 10:45 Darkren wrote:
On September 14 2013 10:39 NB wrote:
On September 14 2013 10:30 Erandorr wrote:
Guys i just got my creeps fissureblocked for 6 mins into 12 wave attack on our towers. Since when is shit allowed in dota

sounds like free gold for Kotl of the light


of what kind of shit are we talking about here ?

People were saying it would never work in a competitive game, nb makes a stupid comment when it works in mm.

what is 'it' exactly? and I dont think its smart when you just straight up calling people stupid without proofs.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
September 14 2013 02:09 GMT
#77690
On September 14 2013 10:58 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 10:56 Erasme wrote:
Farm jungle I guess, let the supports rotate mid or their easy lane to be useful.


yeah probably just pull for yourself and tell everyone else to rotate. problem that gets overlooked is that you will be lvl 2 most likely and the axe is gonna have 6 when they push in your tower. its not just farm its the levels that just go poof

Actually if you pull correctly hes probably gonna be 3-4. need to know what you are dealing with first though, i was really really confused


Can't really stare at Axe since he'll cast battle hunger on you too.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 14 2013 02:20 GMT
#77691
On September 14 2013 10:54 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 10:53 Erasme wrote:
On September 14 2013 10:45 Darkren wrote:
On September 14 2013 10:39 NB wrote:
On September 14 2013 10:30 Erandorr wrote:
Guys i just got my creeps fissureblocked for 6 mins into 12 wave attack on our towers. Since when is shit allowed in dota

sounds like free gold for Kotl of the light


of what kind of shit are we talking about here ?

People were saying it would never work in a competitive game, nb makes a stupid comment when it works in mm.


You need a coordinated team to somehow deal with it i guess. what really hurt in my game is that they parked a fucking axe at the tower. what can you do but stare at that guy

There's a Youtube video posted a few pages (like 100 or so) back where some guys were doing it. I'm guessing that might be related to your trials.

Isn't doing this banned in competitive or something? I know it used to be, at least, but that was the same era when you weren't allowed to have more than one sheep per team.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 14 2013 02:21 GMT
#77692
On September 14 2013 11:08 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 10:53 Erasme wrote:
On September 14 2013 10:45 Darkren wrote:
On September 14 2013 10:39 NB wrote:
On September 14 2013 10:30 Erandorr wrote:
Guys i just got my creeps fissureblocked for 6 mins into 12 wave attack on our towers. Since when is shit allowed in dota

sounds like free gold for Kotl of the light


of what kind of shit are we talking about here ?

People were saying it would never work in a competitive game, nb makes a stupid comment when it works in mm.

what is 'it' exactly? and I dont think its smart when you just straight up calling people stupid without proofs.

Oh so now Kotl of the light is smart ? Sick.
On September 14 2013 11:09 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 10:58 Erandorr wrote:
On September 14 2013 10:56 Erasme wrote:
Farm jungle I guess, let the supports rotate mid or their easy lane to be useful.


yeah probably just pull for yourself and tell everyone else to rotate. problem that gets overlooked is that you will be lvl 2 most likely and the axe is gonna have 6 when they push in your tower. its not just farm its the levels that just go poof

Actually if you pull correctly hes probably gonna be 3-4. need to know what you are dealing with first though, i was really really confused


Can't really stare at Axe since he'll cast battle hunger on you too.

In that game, I guess supports will need to protect the am for him to pull safely until pms/roh or just lvl3 if hes competent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
September 14 2013 02:28 GMT
#77693
extremely low chance that it will work in competitive. why do people want to use axe when you can use dark seer anyway
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
September 14 2013 02:30 GMT
#77694
On September 14 2013 11:28 rabidch wrote:
extremely low chance that it will work in competitive. why do people want to use axe when you can use dark seer anyway

So you can battlehunger people and leave them with no good way to get it off
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
September 14 2013 02:31 GMT
#77695
On September 14 2013 11:30 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 11:28 rabidch wrote:
extremely low chance that it will work in competitive. why do people want to use axe when you can use dark seer anyway

So you can battlehunger people and leave them with no good way to get it off

why would battle hunger be higher than level 2 is my question, by the time good teams will take countermeasures against this they will do it before axe hits level 3
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 14 2013 02:36 GMT
#77696
On September 14 2013 11:31 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 11:30 Shaella wrote:
On September 14 2013 11:28 rabidch wrote:
extremely low chance that it will work in competitive. why do people want to use axe when you can use dark seer anyway

So you can battlehunger people and leave them with no good way to get it off

why would battle hunger be higher than level 2 is my question, by the time good teams will take countermeasures against this they will do it before axe hits level 3

Even bad teams can 2v1 him at level 1. If they can't, then they wouldn't have won against a normal Axe lane.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-14 03:02:49
September 14 2013 03:00 GMT
#77697
On September 14 2013 10:40 Erandorr wrote:
Imma leave it here again

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Just watched the replay and it's extremely hilarious. What hero were you?

http://dotabuff.com/matches/309054549

nvm you were probably the AM
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 14 2013 03:00 GMT
#77698
If you notice they have an ES and the first wave isn't coming, you just pick 2 people and go from top rune to in between their tower, ES has to clarity every fissure so you can prevent him doing it if not just killing him.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 14 2013 03:18 GMT
#77699
On September 14 2013 12:00 MrCon wrote:
If you notice they have an ES and the first wave isn't coming, you just pick 2 people and go from top rune to in between their tower, ES has to clarity every fissure so you can prevent him doing it if not just killing him.

The flaw with that is that their teammates can TP in and just kill you. Of course, this IS a pub, so...
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-14 03:22:49
September 14 2013 03:22 GMT
#77700
Level 1 TP, you don't see that every day :o Just the logistic of buying a TP at lvl1 is complicated for radiant. The money is another one.
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