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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 14 2013 03:24 GMT
#77701
On September 14 2013 12:22 MrCon wrote:
Level 1 TP, you don't see that every day :o Just the logistic of buying a TP at lvl1 is complicated for radiant. The money is another one.

Level 1, you can certainly disrupt the ES. You can't necessarily stop him, though, and if he manages to get you under tower, you're toast. I thought you meant a little later.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-14 03:54:38
September 14 2013 03:54 GMT
#77702
I picked Night Stalker, started regen + shield + 1 branch. Ended up going mid vs a death prophet with random gold who absolutely molested me in lane. Like...11 CS by 5 minutes. I know it's a shitty matchup but I still feel like I played it horribly. He played ultra aggresive and kept me off bottle till 3 minutes. I couldnt bottle crow that much cause pub game = every1 wants courier. Are there any tips beyond using Q for last hits? In general I suck at melee vs ranged matchups when I'm not either playing a hero with really good base stats or have a spammable nuke that I can harass + get last hits with (shockwave, flare, etc)
Dodge arrows
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 14 2013 04:01 GMT
#77703
On September 14 2013 12:54 TheSubtleArt wrote:
I picked Night Stalker, started regen + shield + 1 branch. Ended up going mid vs a death prophet with random gold who absolutely molested me in lane. Like...11 CS by 5 minutes. I know it's a shitty matchup but I still feel like I played it horribly. He played ultra aggresive and kept me off bottle till 3 minutes. I couldnt bottle crow that much cause pub game = every1 wants courier. Are there any tips beyond using Q for last hits? In general I suck at melee vs ranged matchups when I'm not either playing a hero with really good base stats or have a spammable nuke that I can harass + get last hits with (shockwave, flare, etc)

There's not a whole lot you can do apart from skipping shield and going the standard Bottle rush build (tango 3 branches). From there you just have to bottlecrow. Something to keep in mind is that you can hold onto your Void levels until the first night, so the manacost stays lower. Nobody's going to have instant-travel 90 damage autoattack, so with a little care, you can lasthit just fine.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 14 2013 04:03 GMT
#77704
your auto attack damage is a lot higher than hers, u have to abuse that with last hits and denying
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
September 14 2013 04:04 GMT
#77705
On September 14 2013 13:03 FinestHour wrote:
your auto attack damage is a lot higher than hers, u have to abuse that with last hits and denying

Not if she starts with a null talisman. Plus either way if I try to go up I get right clicked and crypt swarmed
Dodge arrows
ilovesharkpeople
Profile Joined June 2013
United States53 Posts
September 14 2013 04:11 GMT
#77706
On September 14 2013 10:30 Erandorr wrote:
Guys i just got my creeps fissureblocked for 6 mins into 12 wave attack on our towers. Since when is shit allowed in dota

Edit : ROFL
+ Show Spoiler +

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A solution:



If the ES already cast fissure, it'll be really hard for whoever is farming in lane to punish you by going for a kill.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 14 2013 04:11 GMT
#77707
ok then
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
September 14 2013 04:14 GMT
#77708
players per month is declining rapidly, 1 month of TI3 is over
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 14 2013 04:15 GMT
#77709
On September 14 2013 13:14 Elasticity wrote:
players per month is declining rapidly, 1 month of TI3 is over

huh.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 14 2013 04:16 GMT
#77710
On September 14 2013 13:14 Elasticity wrote:
players per month is declining rapidly, 1 month of TI3 is over

ded game all switch to blizzards moba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
September 14 2013 04:33 GMT
#77711
concurrency is a better stat anyways
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 14 2013 05:12 GMT
#77712
On September 14 2013 13:14 Elasticity wrote:
players per month is declining rapidly, 1 month of TI3 is over

That stat probably includes people who only logged in to watch the international on dota TV.

It may not be a big amount, but that likely includes some of that drop.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
September 14 2013 05:18 GMT
#77713
krob vs ns isn't even that bad of a mu; ns has amazing base stats
your attack animation is way better and your base damage is really good
void for lasthits if necessary, farm your boots bottle and go kill stuff at nighttime
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
September 14 2013 05:37 GMT
#77714
its not a bad matchup for ns, she can nuke you a bunch but you can just bottle crow that off, so you probably missed a bunch of last hits and positioned badly
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
September 14 2013 06:25 GMT
#77715
He did say he can't bottlecrow due to the courier too busy in pub
As per Acritter mentions, you just hold the level void for farming important items : boots and bottle and you are set to go for
1st night and dodge her nukes
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
September 14 2013 06:57 GMT
#77716
On September 14 2013 13:14 Elasticity wrote:
players per month is declining rapidly, 1 month of TI3 is over


TI3 killed dota go to next game.
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
September 14 2013 07:18 GMT
#77717
On September 14 2013 14:12 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 13:14 Elasticity wrote:
players per month is declining rapidly, 1 month of TI3 is over

That stat probably includes people who only logged in to watch the international on dota TV.

It may not be a big amount, but that likely includes some of that drop.

And studies are starting up again for most people. I know a few people who haven't logged on since TI3 because of studies starting up.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-14 08:11:14
September 14 2013 08:03 GMT
#77718
MM is really weird or just fucked up...

I've been on Very High/High bracket but randomly I'll still be placed on Normal games. I understand bouncing between High and Very High, but then a Normal bracket is ridiculous. I know it doesn't mean a lot but still. Pubstats.me says this:

Normal (9.7%)
High (33.3%)
Very High (56.9%)

I end up with team mates who are building Vanguard on Ogre Magi (could've bought Mek, ForceStaff, wards, etc.), Vlad's on Kunkka (after Lothar's, could've bought Crystalys) and Tinker buying BoTs quite early (never split pushed nor used the TP at all since it was too hard he said).

I guess this is Valve's way of making people lose when needed to "balance" winrates.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
September 14 2013 08:17 GMT
#77719
yes, because its only you that gets bad teammates

stop whining.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
noulss
Profile Joined November 2012
France353 Posts
September 14 2013 09:20 GMT
#77720
from your stats you seem to be at the bottom of the vh bracket, so stop whining and play better, looking at your mates itembuild wont win you the game, plus they are in a pubgame, they can go dagon eb if they want to.
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