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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 13 2013 19:56 GMT
#77621
Nyx is hilarious in pubs. Nobody knows how to handle a 4 position Nyx who can execute a basic Vendetta gank.

Although then they fed so much that I wound up in 2 position...
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
September 13 2013 19:57 GMT
#77622
On September 14 2013 04:53 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 04:51 Comeh wrote:
On September 14 2013 04:48 FinestHour wrote:
ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ rubick players raise your rubicks ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ

My highest amount of deaths game was on rubick.

And we won. #comehsupport

http://dotabuff.com/matches/86250354

The true role of a support, dying a lot to make space. You are the highest cost ward in the game.

Sounds like my axe games.
Blink in, taunt, blademail, die.

So weird that I win the most with axe when I don't have a snowbally start and I just stay in jungle till I have my blink.
In the woods, there lurks..
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
September 13 2013 19:59 GMT
#77623
On September 14 2013 03:53 Elasticity wrote:
as if timbersaw is hard to play


iceiceice v mushi final game of the ti3 mid championship timbersaw
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 13 2013 20:36 GMT
#77624
Huh. This solo mid Nyx from CSC got an Orb of Venom. Interesting choice for the hero, and I kind of like it. Doesn't limit the purchase of the big items by too significant an amount, and can get you an extra attack or two off on a solo kill. 300 gold for an extra 100-150 damage. Not too bad.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 13 2013 20:46 GMT
#77625
On September 14 2013 05:36 Acritter wrote:
Huh. This solo mid Nyx from CSC got an Orb of Venom. Interesting choice for the hero, and I kind of like it. Doesn't limit the purchase of the big items by too significant an amount, and can get you an extra attack or two off on a solo kill. 300 gold for an extra 100-150 damage. Not too bad.

Bear in mind that in many cases it would only really give you an extra attack on people you didn't already have a movespeed advantage over with upgraded boots.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 13 2013 20:47 GMT
#77626
On September 14 2013 05:46 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 05:36 Acritter wrote:
Huh. This solo mid Nyx from CSC got an Orb of Venom. Interesting choice for the hero, and I kind of like it. Doesn't limit the purchase of the big items by too significant an amount, and can get you an extra attack or two off on a solo kill. 300 gold for an extra 100-150 damage. Not too bad.

Bear in mind that in many cases it would only really give you an extra attack on people you didn't already have a movespeed advantage over with upgraded boots.

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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 13 2013 20:55 GMT
#77627
On September 14 2013 05:46 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 05:36 Acritter wrote:
Huh. This solo mid Nyx from CSC got an Orb of Venom. Interesting choice for the hero, and I kind of like it. Doesn't limit the purchase of the big items by too significant an amount, and can get you an extra attack or two off on a solo kill. 300 gold for an extra 100-150 damage. Not too bad.

Bear in mind that in many cases it would only really give you an extra attack on people you didn't already have a movespeed advantage over with upgraded boots.

You're going to be getting mana boots on Nyx unless you want to run back to fountain after every gank. 360 movespeed really isn't a ton, and you're going to be very close to the same movespeed as everyone who doesn't have Phase Boots. Orb of Venom will be slowing them by 30-40 movespeed, turning a what is a 10-speed advantage (you get a hit off every couple of seconds or so) into a Boots-speed advantage (you get off a hit every time your attack is off cooldown). It also limits their ability to juke and to run back into tower range, as well as doing a bit more damage on top of it. I think the slow does a lot more than you're making it out to.
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Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
September 13 2013 20:55 GMT
#77628
On September 14 2013 05:47 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 05:46 TheYango wrote:
On September 14 2013 05:36 Acritter wrote:
Huh. This solo mid Nyx from CSC got an Orb of Venom. Interesting choice for the hero, and I kind of like it. Doesn't limit the purchase of the big items by too significant an amount, and can get you an extra attack or two off on a solo kill. 300 gold for an extra 100-150 damage. Not too bad.

Bear in mind that in many cases it would only really give you an extra attack on people you didn't already have a movespeed advantage over with upgraded boots.

?


If you are already faster you were already going to get the extra hits without the OOV.
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/8137911
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 13 2013 20:57 GMT
#77629
On September 14 2013 05:55 Jaeger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 05:47 teddyoojo wrote:
On September 14 2013 05:46 TheYango wrote:
On September 14 2013 05:36 Acritter wrote:
Huh. This solo mid Nyx from CSC got an Orb of Venom. Interesting choice for the hero, and I kind of like it. Doesn't limit the purchase of the big items by too significant an amount, and can get you an extra attack or two off on a solo kill. 300 gold for an extra 100-150 damage. Not too bad.

Bear in mind that in many cases it would only really give you an extra attack on people you didn't already have a movespeed advantage over with upgraded boots.

?


If you are already faster you were already going to get the extra hits without the OOV.

And the thing is, that's completely false.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
September 13 2013 21:01 GMT
#77630
Last pages are weird, first comparing KP vs [A] to Flash vs JD even though KP mostly played low-tier teams recently and then people calling Fata "shittalking" just because he told what's true about ex-mouz players. When a teacher gives you bad grade you don't call this shittalking...

I guess it's mostly because nowadays people tend to use strong words for something normal (like every mistake is named "throwing a game", etc.), trashtalking would be Fata saying "omg black is such a retard, he only knows how to PvE and is a total trash". What Fata did is simply his view on other player's style expressed in a form of constructive criticism.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
September 13 2013 21:10 GMT
#77631
Orb of Venom is actually a good purchase on a lot of melee heroes. Just that nobody ever thinks about it unless they are LD or Slark.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 13 2013 21:11 GMT
#77632
KP doesnt get to be a top tier team until they manage to actually make it to a lan and perform well.

Until then, sorry, but you just dont get the world class tag until you prove your lineup can perform offline

Although currently the pool of world class teams is pretty freakin small. Only [A] and Na'vi are truly world class ATM. Everyone else is fighting for the best of the rest.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
September 13 2013 21:13 GMT
#77633
On September 14 2013 06:10 trinxified wrote:
Orb of Venom is actually a good purchase on a lot of melee heroes. Just that nobody ever thinks about it unless they are LD or Slark.

OOVAM
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
September 13 2013 21:15 GMT
#77634
I am actually waiting for someone to try to justify OOV on AM in some weird contrived situation. Come on GD, work your magic : D
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 13 2013 21:17 GMT
#77635
You could pick it in dota1 to override manabreak if you were against a sd, but i dont see the point in dota2 :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
September 13 2013 21:17 GMT
#77636
Am with OOV farms faster than PA with bfury
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
September 13 2013 21:18 GMT
#77637
On September 14 2013 06:17 Yoshi- wrote:
Am with OOV farms faster than PA with bfury

Even with wards?!?!?
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-13 21:22:01
September 13 2013 21:19 GMT
#77638
On September 14 2013 06:15 Zealos wrote:
I am actually waiting for someone to try to justify OOV on AM in some weird contrived situation. Come on GD, work your magic : D

Alright here we go.

So in a solo vs solo matchup against someone AM has a movespeed advantage over this could work. You use your first hit to proc the OoV - drop the OoV so you can manaburn your target and then blink forward as well. You only need the first OoV proc in your chase to kill the other hero.

Bonus points if you use your courier to pick up the OoV to deliver to you so you can proc it again when it runs out.

Edit Wait, does manabreak proc over oov?

Not familiar with that orb interaction for obvious reasons.
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
September 13 2013 21:21 GMT
#77639
On September 14 2013 06:19 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2013 06:15 Zealos wrote:
I am actually waiting for someone to try to justify OOV on AM in some weird contrived situation. Come on GD, work your magic : D

Alright here we go.

So in a solo vs solo matchup against someone AM has a movespeed advantage over this could work. You use your first hit to proc the OoV - drop the OoV so you can manaburn your target and then blink forward as well. You only need the first OoV proc in your chase to kill the other hero.

Bonus points if you use your courier to pick up the OoV to deliver to you so you can proc it again when it runs out.

Turns out Manabreak will override the OoV anyway. Perhaps you use your first hit with OoV, then level up mana break to use that?
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 13 2013 21:25 GMT
#77640
typical comeh ~_~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
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