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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
September 09 2013 17:24 GMT
#76801
Wouldn't it make more sense if he was using a phone with a touch screen and accidentally clicked on it
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
September 09 2013 17:26 GMT
#76802
That's what I said
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
September 09 2013 17:42 GMT
#76803
Maybe.
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
September 09 2013 18:24 GMT
#76804
Kollin translating British to readable English since 2011. We thank him for his service.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 09 2013 19:09 GMT
#76805
DotA2 GD thread: Where we occasionally talk about dota.

FYI: I have been experimenting with different TC skill build. Overall I think you need at least 3 level in stomp to get your ulti land perfectly. Sacrificing stomp level for aura is completely worth it in pub as it let you farm much faster while dealing much more damage. Still havent had the balls to go full 0-4-4 since i never get to solo mid but I think it could work out really well.

Trying to learn LC skill builld next. I have never played this hero or seen it be played before.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
September 09 2013 19:12 GMT
#76806
On September 10 2013 04:09 NB wrote:
DotA2 GD thread: Where we occasionally talk about dota.

FYI: I have been experimenting with different TC skill build. Overall I think you need at least 3 level in stomp to get your ulti land perfectly. Sacrificing stomp level for aura is completely worth it in pub as it let you farm much faster while dealing much more damage. Still havent had the balls to go full 0-4-4 since i never get to solo mid but I think it could work out really well.

Trying to learn LC skill builld next. I have never played this hero or seen it be played before.

As far as I know LiquidTC plays him 0-4-4 when going mid and claims it to be broken. I have seem him do this on stream a few times and it was silly how he murdered a Puck mid. Admittedly the Puck misplayed the match-up pretty hard.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 09 2013 19:14 GMT
#76807
I always get flamed for missing stomps when I play TC
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CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
September 09 2013 19:20 GMT
#76808
On September 10 2013 04:14 Sn0_Man wrote:
I always get flamed for missing stomps when I play TC

I don't even dare to really touch him, I miss stomps, fail my Spirit micro(meaning I die while desperatly trying to walk through as much stuff as possible) and botch every ulti ever.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 19:30:48
September 09 2013 19:29 GMT
#76809
On September 10 2013 04:09 NB wrote:
Trying to learn LC skill builld next. I have never played this hero or seen it be played before.

Depends if laning or jungling. Jungling max the passive first, followed by the heal, leaving the nuke until after those 2 are maxed. Lane you can level the nuke earlier and prioritize the heal.

The strength of the hero in pubs is that you jungle like Axe (based on passive proc), except unlike Axe you bring your own sustain to the board because you have a heal and a lifesteal passive. You can pretty much rush a naked Blink dagger at like 7-8 min with only QB+Stout and then use it to set up ganks because most pubs don't expect Blink-Duel ganks that early. You can transition into fighting items after that.

Pubs like Lothar a lot on that hero over Blink, but it takes a lot longer and due to the nature of the ult you want that hero snowballing as early as possible.

EDIT: Two YaphetS LC games, 1 lane one jungle:

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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 19:35:58
September 09 2013 19:31 GMT
#76810
im 18-11 with TC in dota2 so im not too shabby with him. The main problem with not leveling stomp is that its your only escape mechanism when you go solo long with him. Without stomp you would never dare to get into exp range to begin with which make the only lane TC could go to is mid. If thats the case, you could even skip your ult, assuming it will never land without support setup, and go straight for a 0-4-4-0 build. In that scenario core item would be phase bottle lorthar deso AC Shiva/sheep.

edit: wow that LC jungle. He even let the satyr medium camp live at 1 HP to get more hit so the lifesteal proc more. What a player
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 09 2013 19:34 GMT
#76811
Icefrog has come to you saying he will remove one champion from CM in the upcoming patch, you just need to tell him who.

Who gets the Axe, and why?

(since we need Axe for the glorious in game decapitation, he cannot be removed. sorry, my hypo my rules)
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 09 2013 19:36 GMT
#76812
Nobody, because no hero that's annoying in -CM right now is actually out of the realm of being adjusted to be fine, and the patch will change things anyway.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 09 2013 19:37 GMT
#76813
Well, naga's somewhat obnoxious and I'm not really sure that Wisp/Bat in their current incarnations have a place in CM but Yeah I'm just waiting for balance patch.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 19:40:50
September 09 2013 19:40 GMT
#76814
plz remove abaddon
tbh its probably wisp?
but hopefully od
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Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
September 09 2013 19:40 GMT
#76815
With 0-4-4 your spirit deal 300 full damage, that's a 400 standard nuke, plus you get insane autoattack damage that's also amplified. If you go mid, bottle and phase boots and 0-4-4 is like hax build. Stomp require more mana management and need a more coordinated team and in pubs it can be a gamble, it's like a mini-naga ulti.
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Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
September 09 2013 19:41 GMT
#76816
Wisp
I wish he had never been created
Religion: Buckethead
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 19:46:58
September 09 2013 19:43 GMT
#76817
At least 1 rank in Stomp is always good because it can't be interrupted in the first 0.65s meaning that it's strictly speaking a full-on stun for that first second. Two is the minimum for ult setup, with the 3rd required against heroes with ways to escape.

It also lets you do some pretty ridiculous counter-dives because the sleep is not broken by tower damage.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-09 19:46:19
September 09 2013 19:45 GMT
#76818
On September 10 2013 04:36 TheYango wrote:
Nobody, because no hero that's annoying in -CM right now is actually out of the realm of being adjusted to be fine, and the patch will change things anyway.

This is also assuming that nerfing the hero out of the competitive pool is not an option (as in making them complete shit). If you think there is a tweak to OD or Cancer Lancer that still has them see play but makes them not obnoxious I am ALL for ideas.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
September 09 2013 19:52 GMT
#76819
On September 10 2013 04:40 teddyoojo wrote:
plz remove abaddon
tbh its probably wisp?
but hopefully od

This is like a haiku except with 6-8-6.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 09 2013 19:53 GMT
#76820
Not that hard to remove a 1 syllable word from each line.
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