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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 16:40:09
September 05 2013 16:39 GMT
#76121
wow i just realized that once Bane hit level 7, brainsap instantly kill visage lv1 familiar o.O...
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 05 2013 16:50 GMT
#76122
that took quite some games :D
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
September 05 2013 17:08 GMT
#76123
On September 06 2013 01:23 glurio wrote:
Hey guys i'm just getting back into dota, now that i've finally learned all the new heroes i want to play some more serious games.
Is there any pickup/inhouse league thingie for europeans? Sorry if it was already asked, way too many pages here.

http://dota2.n-gage.tv/index.php
Haven't played it very much, my experience is too limited to say anything really.

http://www.iccup.com/en/dota2/
It has, in my opinion, the best client of all the IHL's aswell as excellent match history/stat tracking. Games are hosted on non valve servers, so once a game starts you don't have to host manually, it's all automated. Even though most players are russian speakers, my experience has been quite good, since you can still communicate using basic dota terms. RD is the most popular mode.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410523 (IXDL-O)
CM only (afaik), my general experience with IXDL is that players don't cope very well with being behind / losing. I haven't played that many games so take it with a grain of salt.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
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beef42
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Denmark1037 Posts
September 05 2013 17:48 GMT
#76124
On September 06 2013 01:39 NB wrote:
wow i just realized that once Bane hit level 7, brainsap instantly kill visage lv1 familiar o.O...


+5 Insightful
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
September 05 2013 18:29 GMT
#76125
On September 06 2013 02:08 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 01:23 glurio wrote:
Hey guys i'm just getting back into dota, now that i've finally learned all the new heroes i want to play some more serious games.
Is there any pickup/inhouse league thingie for europeans? Sorry if it was already asked, way too many pages here.

http://dota2.n-gage.tv/index.php
Haven't played it very much, my experience is too limited to say anything really.

http://www.iccup.com/en/dota2/
It has, in my opinion, the best client of all the IHL's aswell as excellent match history/stat tracking. Games are hosted on non valve servers, so once a game starts you don't have to host manually, it's all automated. Even though most players are russian speakers, my experience has been quite good, since you can still communicate using basic dota terms. RD is the most popular mode.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410523 (IXDL-O)
CM only (afaik), my general experience with IXDL is that players don't cope very well with being behind / losing. I haven't played that many games so take it with a grain of salt.

Is the iccup league still active? Also I'm assuming the games are on Russian servers?
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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
September 05 2013 18:34 GMT
#76126
On September 06 2013 03:29 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 02:08 Alur wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:23 glurio wrote:
Hey guys i'm just getting back into dota, now that i've finally learned all the new heroes i want to play some more serious games.
Is there any pickup/inhouse league thingie for europeans? Sorry if it was already asked, way too many pages here.

http://dota2.n-gage.tv/index.php
Haven't played it very much, my experience is too limited to say anything really.

http://www.iccup.com/en/dota2/
It has, in my opinion, the best client of all the IHL's aswell as excellent match history/stat tracking. Games are hosted on non valve servers, so once a game starts you don't have to host manually, it's all automated. Even though most players are russian speakers, my experience has been quite good, since you can still communicate using basic dota terms. RD is the most popular mode.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410523 (IXDL-O)
CM only (afaik), my general experience with IXDL is that players don't cope very well with being behind / losing. I haven't played that many games so take it with a grain of salt.

Is the iccup league still active? Also I'm assuming the games are on Russian servers?

They have both russsian and european servers, activity is good, but decreases as your rating gets higher, it wasn't noticable before C+ and above though.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
CustomKal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada749 Posts
September 05 2013 18:52 GMT
#76127
On September 06 2013 01:39 NB wrote:
wow i just realized that once Bane hit level 7, brainsap instantly kill visage lv1 familiar o.O...


same with an omniknight heal.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
September 05 2013 19:44 GMT
#76128
Can someone translate this comic?

[image loading]
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
September 05 2013 20:19 GMT
#76129
I usually play 4 position heroes in matchmaking, and this has been on my mind. How do you guys farm effectively in carries in pub games when the odds are against you? For example, you're in a 2 lane vs 2 lane and your comp gets out harassesd very easily. Normally on heroes that go Battlefury, ring of health helps a lot but what about heroes that don't build into it? Is a casual ring of health/vanguard on a carry something that would actually work in pubs? This happens to me a lot on the rare occasions the team needs a carry, and I really dislike playing carries in pubs because most of the time the team doesn't help accommodate for farm.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 05 2013 20:20 GMT
#76130
On September 06 2013 05:19 Gentso wrote:
I usually play 4 position heroes in matchmaking, and this has been on my mind. How do you guys farm effectively in carries in pub games when the odds are against you? For example, you're in a 2 lane vs 2 lane and your comp gets out harassesd very easily. Normally on heroes that go Battlefury, ring of health helps a lot but what about heroes that don't build into it? Is a casual ring of health/vanguard on a carry something that would actually work in pubs? This happens to me a lot on the rare occasions the team needs a carry, and I really dislike playing carries in pubs because most of the time the team doesn't help accommodate for farm.

Tranquil boots.
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glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
September 05 2013 20:21 GMT
#76131
On September 06 2013 02:08 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 01:23 glurio wrote:
Hey guys i'm just getting back into dota, now that i've finally learned all the new heroes i want to play some more serious games.
Is there any pickup/inhouse league thingie for europeans? Sorry if it was already asked, way too many pages here.

http://dota2.n-gage.tv/index.php
Haven't played it very much, my experience is too limited to say anything really.

http://www.iccup.com/en/dota2/
It has, in my opinion, the best client of all the IHL's aswell as excellent match history/stat tracking. Games are hosted on non valve servers, so once a game starts you don't have to host manually, it's all automated. Even though most players are russian speakers, my experience has been quite good, since you can still communicate using basic dota terms. RD is the most popular mode.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410523 (IXDL-O)
CM only (afaik), my general experience with IXDL is that players don't cope very well with being behind / losing. I haven't played that many games so take it with a grain of salt.


Thanks!
Will try those, although i don't fit the 300+ win requirement for n-gage yet.
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
September 05 2013 20:25 GMT
#76132
On September 06 2013 05:21 glurio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 02:08 Alur wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:23 glurio wrote:
Hey guys i'm just getting back into dota, now that i've finally learned all the new heroes i want to play some more serious games.
Is there any pickup/inhouse league thingie for europeans? Sorry if it was already asked, way too many pages here.

http://dota2.n-gage.tv/index.php
Haven't played it very much, my experience is too limited to say anything really.

http://www.iccup.com/en/dota2/
It has, in my opinion, the best client of all the IHL's aswell as excellent match history/stat tracking. Games are hosted on non valve servers, so once a game starts you don't have to host manually, it's all automated. Even though most players are russian speakers, my experience has been quite good, since you can still communicate using basic dota terms. RD is the most popular mode.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410523 (IXDL-O)
CM only (afaik), my general experience with IXDL is that players don't cope very well with being behind / losing. I haven't played that many games so take it with a grain of salt.


Thanks!
Will try those, although i don't fit the 300+ win requirement for n-gage yet.

Something I didn't mention is that iccup is the only league that allows for stacking, so you can play with a friend to make it less volatile. Teambalance games (where you cant stack) get more popular at high ratings tho.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
TL+ Member
Gentso
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2218 Posts
September 05 2013 20:31 GMT
#76133
On September 06 2013 05:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 05:19 Gentso wrote:
I usually play 4 position heroes in matchmaking, and this has been on my mind. How do you guys farm effectively in carries in pub games when the odds are against you? For example, you're in a 2 lane vs 2 lane and your comp gets out harassesd very easily. Normally on heroes that go Battlefury, ring of health helps a lot but what about heroes that don't build into it? Is a casual ring of health/vanguard on a carry something that would actually work in pubs? This happens to me a lot on the rare occasions the team needs a carry, and I really dislike playing carries in pubs because most of the time the team doesn't help accommodate for farm.

Tranquil boots.


Holy shit for some reason I blank on them every time I play a carry. It makes a lot of sense, too. Thanks, haha.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 05 2013 20:56 GMT
#76134
then buy aquila and drums every game and ur a team liquid agility carry player
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 05 2013 21:01 GMT
#76135
On September 06 2013 05:56 FinestHour wrote:
then buy aquila and drums every game and ur a team liquid agility carry player

this shit pales in comparison to what envy or aui does in their interpretation of what efficiency is
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-05 21:03:52
September 05 2013 21:03 GMT
#76136
On September 06 2013 04:44 SilverStar wrote:
Can someone translate this comic?

[image loading]

-Reaver or recipe? -Recipe!
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 05 2013 21:03 GMT
#76137
On September 06 2013 05:56 FinestHour wrote:
then buy aquila and drums every game and ur a team liquid agility carry player

Ive actually found that generally in pubs its best to just skip getting a lot of little shit and go with a straight rush at whatever key item you think you need.

That lothars going to make the difference this game? Put off drums till after you already have it (providing you dont need drums to, you know, live).

Small items are great when you can predict the flow of the game and you need a semi-stable power curve. In pubs you never know if your team is going to start feeding like crazy and you need your first big item immediately.

Obviously this theory isnt perfect for every situation, but I find it to be a good default position.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Coil1
Profile Joined January 2013
128 Posts
September 05 2013 21:07 GMT
#76138
On September 06 2013 05:25 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 05:21 glurio wrote:
On September 06 2013 02:08 Alur wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:23 glurio wrote:
Hey guys i'm just getting back into dota, now that i've finally learned all the new heroes i want to play some more serious games.
Is there any pickup/inhouse league thingie for europeans? Sorry if it was already asked, way too many pages here.

http://dota2.n-gage.tv/index.php
Haven't played it very much, my experience is too limited to say anything really.

http://www.iccup.com/en/dota2/
It has, in my opinion, the best client of all the IHL's aswell as excellent match history/stat tracking. Games are hosted on non valve servers, so once a game starts you don't have to host manually, it's all automated. Even though most players are russian speakers, my experience has been quite good, since you can still communicate using basic dota terms. RD is the most popular mode.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410523 (IXDL-O)
CM only (afaik), my general experience with IXDL is that players don't cope very well with being behind / losing. I haven't played that many games so take it with a grain of salt.


Thanks!
Will try those, although i don't fit the 300+ win requirement for n-gage yet.

Something I didn't mention is that iccup is the only league that allows for stacking, so you can play with a friend to make it less volatile. Teambalance games (where you cant stack) get more popular at high ratings tho.

ixdl pretty much allows stacking since you can just cl. that's how you get to the top 25. either that or be really fucking good at mid.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 05 2013 21:17 GMT
#76139
On September 06 2013 06:07 Coil1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 05:25 Alur wrote:
On September 06 2013 05:21 glurio wrote:
On September 06 2013 02:08 Alur wrote:
On September 06 2013 01:23 glurio wrote:
Hey guys i'm just getting back into dota, now that i've finally learned all the new heroes i want to play some more serious games.
Is there any pickup/inhouse league thingie for europeans? Sorry if it was already asked, way too many pages here.

http://dota2.n-gage.tv/index.php
Haven't played it very much, my experience is too limited to say anything really.

http://www.iccup.com/en/dota2/
It has, in my opinion, the best client of all the IHL's aswell as excellent match history/stat tracking. Games are hosted on non valve servers, so once a game starts you don't have to host manually, it's all automated. Even though most players are russian speakers, my experience has been quite good, since you can still communicate using basic dota terms. RD is the most popular mode.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410523 (IXDL-O)
CM only (afaik), my general experience with IXDL is that players don't cope very well with being behind / losing. I haven't played that many games so take it with a grain of salt.


Thanks!
Will try those, although i don't fit the 300+ win requirement for n-gage yet.

Something I didn't mention is that iccup is the only league that allows for stacking, so you can play with a friend to make it less volatile. Teambalance games (where you cant stack) get more popular at high ratings tho.

ixdl pretty much allows stacking since you can just cl. that's how you get to the top 25. either that or be really fucking good at mid.

is true, but since theres only 100 dollars for europe atleast ppl dont really tryhard much
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 05 2013 21:26 GMT
#76140
On September 06 2013 03:52 CustomKal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2013 01:39 NB wrote:
wow i just realized that once Bane hit level 7, brainsap instantly kill visage lv1 familiar o.O...


same with an omniknight heal.

yeah but bane is range spell and more competitive viable @_@.... but damn now I know about a good visage counter
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
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