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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 27 2013 01:13 GMT
#74201
wow, queuein pub game, game starts 1 guy doesnt load, servers bug out, cant look for a game now -_-
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Defury
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Germany206 Posts
August 27 2013 01:15 GMT
#74202
Has anyone started focusing on Dota more than Sc2 lately? Finding it more enjoyable? Not trying to start a which game is better debate just simply asking for Sc2 players experiences, wrist is getting sore and it's getting harder to play Sc2 so I might try and pick up Dota to focus on and play Sc2 casually.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 27 2013 01:16 GMT
#74203
i played sc2 since beta without a break (except 8 months where i couldnt play pc games at all) at a reasonably high lvl, stopped basically completly by now for dota
its odd, when i start sc2, play a game,, win that game, i just dont care anymore
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
August 27 2013 01:25 GMT
#74204
On August 27 2013 09:38 BurningSera wrote:
Damn this is why refresher spec gives 70mins game and armlet spec gives game of loss (it wouldn't be that bad of an item except he went manta next and team has no vlad). Suddenly I have respect for aui's skadi spec.


Please I've done Spectre Refresher a lot, the longest game I had was 60min... I got trilaned against and wrekt.
At 40 min I managed to get Radiance. I had Phase/Bracer... I even had to sell Bracer just to get Radiance recipe. In the span of the next 20min I managed to get 6 slotted. Enemy team even had 3 roshes.... Every other game was between 35-45 mins.

To not get hard games like the one I described, I have discovered that Armlet first then Rad/Refresher is the best.
Armlet is just too good on Spectre in a losing game. It's easier to toggle on her than other heroes since you take less damage from everything.
Also if you've been Armlet toggling for a long time in a fight, the enemies will be discouraged to chase you since you are dispersing damage that adds up overtime.

Also I always try to have Treads over Phase, and get Phase only when necessary
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
convention
Profile Joined October 2011
United States622 Posts
August 27 2013 01:26 GMT
#74205
On August 27 2013 10:15 Defury wrote:
Has anyone started focusing on Dota more than Sc2 lately? Finding it more enjoyable? Not trying to start a which game is better debate just simply asking for Sc2 players experiences, wrist is getting sore and it's getting harder to play Sc2 so I might try and pick up Dota to focus on and play Sc2 casually.

I find DOTA is easier to play casually. When I play SC2, it's either with friends who are worse than me, or 1v1. In both cases, winning the game completely depends on me doing really well. Sometimes DOTA feels pretty independent of me playing well, so it's easy to feel no pressure to put everything into the game. Also, playing really well in SC2 basically means staying at 110-120 APM for the few hours I'm playing. DOTA I can play well at 30 APM. Not that DOTA is easier, but it's just doesn't feel as high pressure, and it is definitely less draining.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 27 2013 01:47 GMT
#74206
Its a teamgame and despite it being frusterating you aren't super (in)tense 24/7, I didn't play too much SC2 but my brain melted when I played a few games(2/3) of BW. I can go on all day on Dota.
WriterXiao8~~
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
August 27 2013 01:50 GMT
#74207
I just played SF for the first time and, wow, now I know why people say he's "all skill." The first ability is really hard to use.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
August 27 2013 01:52 GMT
#74208
I love DotA more because of the casualness it offers. You can try out wongky heroes and wongky builds but still get the job done if your teammates cooperate. I sometimes hate it because of the people who are... well... dicks (go Space Cow and charge whenever it's off cooldown even without support). Also it's less stressful on my body especially since I have a shoulder condition.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
August 27 2013 02:08 GMT
#74209
All my friends pretty much switched from sc2 to dota (or just picked up dota from no rts background) during the big key wave a year or so ago so i havent touched it since (bar the Hots campaign).
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 27 2013 02:20 GMT
#74210
Anybody here actually didn't play WC3 Dota first? I was just thinking how hard it is to learn and be decent with this game without WC3 Dota experience... A lot of what I know now came from that, since I started playing Dota from the very beginning.

My transition was easy but it couldn't be easy for others... In fact I can see most just outright quitting and get frustrated with this game because of how hard it is to learn the mechanics. Not to mention tolerating the trolls and flamers out there.

Whoever out there is like this, kudos to you for sticking it through!
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
August 27 2013 02:25 GMT
#74211
On August 27 2013 11:20 trinxified wrote:
Anybody here actually didn't play WC3 Dota first? I was just thinking how hard it is to learn and be decent with this game without WC3 Dota experience... A lot of what I know now came from that, since I started playing Dota from the very beginning.

My transition was easy but it couldn't be easy for others... In fact I can see most just outright quitting and get frustrated with this game because of how hard it is to learn the mechanics. Not to mention tolerating the trolls and flamers out there.

Whoever out there is like this, kudos to you for sticking it through!

I think it's just the same. It's actually easier to learn DotA2 because the courier control is better, the spots are more defined.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
August 27 2013 02:30 GMT
#74212
On August 27 2013 11:20 trinxified wrote:
Anybody here actually didn't play WC3 Dota first? I was just thinking how hard it is to learn and be decent with this game without WC3 Dota experience... A lot of what I know now came from that, since I started playing Dota from the very beginning.

My transition was easy but it couldn't be easy for others... In fact I can see most just outright quitting and get frustrated with this game because of how hard it is to learn the mechanics. Not to mention tolerating the trolls and flamers out there.

Whoever out there is like this, kudos to you for sticking it through!


I tried to play WC3 DotA but I was young and didn't get that I had to download the mod, so I just got insta-kicked from all DotA lobbies. It was hard switching to DotA 2 and I'm still definitely not a great player or anything, but hours and hours of bot games and watching lots of DotA really helps. Even with my 0 WC3 DotA experience I was still able to support my way into High MM (I know it means nothing, don't need to remind me :D)
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
Bswhunter
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia954 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-27 02:47:45
August 27 2013 02:37 GMT
#74213
Can someone point me in the direction of a dota 2 replay pack? I am really sick and want to just dl a buncha reps while I recover


Also I played a little wc3 dota. About 100-200 games over 2 years. It was tough, but it was fun.
Stop browsing and do whatever it is you're supposed to do. TL will still be here when you get back
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
August 27 2013 02:41 GMT
#74214
On August 27 2013 11:37 Bswhunter wrote:
Can someone point me in the direction of a dota 2 replay pack? I am really sick and want to just dl a buncha reps while I recover


There is this:
http://getdotastats.com/replays/
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Lovely So Handsome
Profile Joined January 2012
United States197 Posts
August 27 2013 02:46 GMT
#74215
Watch streams or just go to BTS's youtube page.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198051754686
Bswhunter
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia954 Posts
August 27 2013 02:50 GMT
#74216
On August 27 2013 11:41 rebdomine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2013 11:37 Bswhunter wrote:
Can someone point me in the direction of a dota 2 replay pack? I am really sick and want to just dl a buncha reps while I recover


There is this:
http://getdotastats.com/replays/

How do you download them as a pack?
Stop browsing and do whatever it is you're supposed to do. TL will still be here when you get back
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
August 27 2013 03:00 GMT
#74217
On August 27 2013 11:50 Bswhunter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2013 11:41 rebdomine wrote:
On August 27 2013 11:37 Bswhunter wrote:
Can someone point me in the direction of a dota 2 replay pack? I am really sick and want to just dl a buncha reps while I recover


There is this:
http://getdotastats.com/replays/

How do you download them as a pack?


I just used a mass downloader and went inside the folders, filtered it to grab all links that ended in *.dem. Used Flashgot on Firefox to do this.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 27 2013 03:13 GMT
#74218
On August 27 2013 10:50 AgentW wrote:
I just played SF for the first time and, wow, now I know why people say he's "all skill." The first ability is really hard to use.

actually i could recommend people who has around 1000 hours into dota to learn the game with SF. You gota learn map control, learn skill shot and lastly: learn to last hit. SF is pretty much a well rounded hero that is very high rewarding for good plays and is a good hero to keep track of your personal improvement.

But yeah if you are new SF is pretty hard >.>.... not as hard as meepo though
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 27 2013 03:15 GMT
#74219
SD not having swap makes me cry myself to sleep at night.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-27 03:32:14
August 27 2013 03:32 GMT
#74220
On August 27 2013 12:13 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2013 10:50 AgentW wrote:
I just played SF for the first time and, wow, now I know why people say he's "all skill." The first ability is really hard to use.

actually i could recommend people who has around 1000 hours into dota to learn the game with SF. You gota learn map control, learn skill shot and lastly: learn to last hit. SF is pretty much a well rounded hero that is very high rewarding for good plays and is a good hero to keep track of your personal improvement.

But yeah if you are new SF is pretty hard >.>.... not as hard as meepo though


I'd argue that learning Invoker is harder.
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