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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 17:24:17
August 23 2013 17:23 GMT
#73561
There are a lot of reasonable 4-man Rosh comps (obviously can do with 2 or 3, but it starts to be long enough to be risky in that case, whereas a lot of 4-mans can finish it in reasonable time), with the 5th hero just being along for the ride.

EDIT: There was actually a dev forum post about people abusing the fact that abandons before you pick a hero don't count against you, with 4 people in the stack 4-man Roshing, and the 5th only picking if they succeeded and abandoning the game if they failed. Pretty funny and pretty sad.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 23 2013 17:34 GMT
#73562
On August 24 2013 02:23 TheYango wrote:
There are a lot of reasonable 4-man Rosh comps (obviously can do with 2 or 3, but it starts to be long enough to be risky in that case, whereas a lot of 4-mans can finish it in reasonable time), with the 5th hero just being along for the ride.

EDIT: There was actually a dev forum post about people abusing the fact that abandons before you pick a hero don't count against you, with 4 people in the stack 4-man Roshing, and the 5th only picking if they succeeded and abandoning the game if they failed. Pretty funny and pretty sad.

I'd like to see the numbers on how often a team that pulls off level 1 rosh proceeds to win the game.
Because i somehow wonder if pubs truly are able to utilize the advantage and snowball out of control.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 23 2013 17:36 GMT
#73563
How much XP will Rosh give you at start of game? Enough for 1 hero to get Level 6? Doesn't that mean the other 4 will have to run away from Rosh before dying... seems so risky and would be hard to not get seen.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 17:37:40
August 23 2013 17:37 GMT
#73564
One hero will be very close to 6 or all of them will be at 2 and a half
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 23 2013 17:39 GMT
#73565
A broken hero I can think of that would be imba at level 6 during that early game would be BH... early track gold, carries the whole team with him.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 23 2013 17:40 GMT
#73566
I still remember a clip where a team tries to level 1 rosh against a lycan and the lycan sends in his wolves and gets the last hit on rosh and their mid storm who was hanging out near the pit got to almost level 5.
Man that would have to feel so awful being the mid who had to play against that storm.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 23 2013 17:41 GMT
#73567
Rosh grants 1789 XP so

1 hero gets 1789xp = (200+300+400+500+389/600) so he is 211 XP off of lvl6
2 heroes get ~894 = (200+300+394/400) so very very very near level 4 each
3 heroes get 596 = (200 + 300 +96/400) so barely level 3 each
4 heroes get 447 so nearly level 3
5 heroes get 357 so halfway to level 3
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 23 2013 17:46 GMT
#73568
Or even Drow Ranger at Level 6 when other team is just level 2-3 at most.. Haha
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
August 23 2013 17:47 GMT
#73569
I wouldn't mind having any hero at Level 6 when the other team is 2-3, lol.
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StoRm_res
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland891 Posts
August 23 2013 17:50 GMT
#73570
or warlock, dropping them golems on lvl 2-3 people ^^
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 17:54:53
August 23 2013 17:53 GMT
#73571
I wonder if desolate does enough damage for a spectre rampage. yeah not even close.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 23 2013 17:55 GMT
#73572
The fact that desolate does NOT trigger when the enemy is around allied creeps is a crime and would kinda ruin the fast-6 rosh spectre strat. If it only detected heroes then spectre would be amazing (but I seriously doubt broken).
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
August 23 2013 17:56 GMT
#73573
On August 24 2013 02:55 Sn0_Man wrote:
The fact that desolate does NOT trigger when the enemy is around allied creeps is a crime and would kinda ruin the fast-6 rosh spectre strat. If it only detected heroes then spectre would be amazing (but I seriously doubt broken).


The illusions should only get a few attacks anyway so it wouldn't do enough damage regardless.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Zozo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil2579 Posts
August 23 2013 17:59 GMT
#73574
Luna is a pretty strong rosh hero and amazing with the early lvl 6/7.

Visage, Chen, DK and Meepo can also make use of the early ultimate to push the gold advantage
EGM guides me
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
August 23 2013 17:59 GMT
#73575
Get a Nyx for this huehuehue


Yeah I don't like fun.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 23 2013 18:02 GMT
#73576
Oh dear lord meepo. Remove his largest weakness (laning pre-6) entirely lol
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 23 2013 18:02 GMT
#73577
Guys i know, you give treant all the levels, then you circumvent earlygame living armor being bad AND you send him mid to deny enemy hero everything with a billion base damage.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 23 2013 18:09 GMT
#73578
Lol imagine LD's bear root you when you're Level 1
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
August 23 2013 18:11 GMT
#73579
or lina. every 40 seconds there is a kill, cant do anything about it.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
August 23 2013 18:14 GMT
#73580
On August 24 2013 03:11 hfglgg wrote:
or lina. every 40 seconds there is a kill, cant do anything about it.


Do you mean her Laguna Blade? It's every 70 seconds and only deals 337.5 damage after hero resistance.

Though still a killer combo with any of her other 2 nukes.
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