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On August 20 2013 04:26 trinxified wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 04:19 BlitzerSC wrote:
Dont forget to buy linkens after radiance so you can spam dagger and farm even faster ! Better than getting Refresher! BTW, recently I've seen 2 Sniper players get Orchid... I mean in theory it's not a bad pickup since it allows you to spam Assassinate early as suppose to just saving it for the kill and Shrapnel too! Gives some damage and attack speed, and I guess a pseudo-disable for escape. But is it really a good item pickup for Sniper?
No.
ive seen worse though.
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refresher is preferable to linkens on late game spectre. 14 seconds of haunt + reality mobility is really not to be underestimated
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On August 20 2013 04:26 trinxified wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 04:19 BlitzerSC wrote:
Dont forget to buy linkens after radiance so you can spam dagger and farm even faster ! Better than getting Refresher! BTW, recently I've seen 2 Sniper players get Orchid... I mean in theory it's not a bad pickup since it allows you to spam Assassinate early as suppose to just saving it for the kill and Shrapnel too! Gives some damage and attack speed, and I guess a pseudo-disable for escape. But is it really a good item pickup for Sniper?
Sniper sadly sucks as shit. All the best sniper players usually just skip it anyway and go stats + 1 lvl of headshot+take aim+ ulti and get damage items and IAS items for maximum bash annoyingness.
I've toyed around a lot with the hero, bfury for damage and mana regen to spam ulti and shrapnel into super fast jungle farming (shrapnel near camp, give you vision to farm 2 camps at once without moving and health regen to stay always at max), orchid for pure shrapnel perma-spam on towers to take them down and be an ass in general spamming assassinates. In the end i think it's just better to go for megastun builds, PT or PB (depend on lane) into MoM, Mael (or Lothar if you're a pussy), Mjoll, Basher, MKB. That's like permastun from 850 range.
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On August 20 2013 04:26 trinxified wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 04:19 BlitzerSC wrote:
Dont forget to buy linkens after radiance so you can spam dagger and farm even faster ! Better than getting Refresher! BTW, recently I've seen 2 Sniper players get Orchid... I mean in theory it's not a bad pickup since it allows you to spam Assassinate early as suppose to just saving it for the kill and Shrapnel too! Gives some damage and attack speed, and I guess a pseudo-disable for escape. But is it really a good item pickup for Sniper?
It gives the mana regen for shrapnel+ulti and attack speed, but it doesnt give anything to the fragility of sniper or giving him an escape mechanism, not giving him real damage either. If you could get orchid around 10mins and farm heroes like qop/storm/am then it won't turn out that bad, but if you could farm 4k gold at 10mins there are better items to get for sniper (you are not that far away from mkb/buriza for extreme dps sniper build).
Or, if you really want that mana regen for utility purposes, with around 4k gold you could have gotten Eul+ other damage item (like demon edge is not that far away) which gives you a semi-disable/escape mechanism plus some nice damage.
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or, heck, just go arcane+dagger.
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Eul sniper sounds quite legit tbh. I'm gonna try it tomorrow.
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On August 20 2013 04:42 BlitzerSC wrote:
Eul sniper sounds quite legit tbh. I'm gonna try it tomorrow.
Yeah lol I just realized that! Awesome movement speed and cyclone to save your ass.
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The problem with euls sniper is that sniper already lacks steroid skills and as such relies entirely on items for damage. Delaying any form of +dmg whatsoever by 2.7K gold means that while he may farm faster because of it, sniper isn't going to be a right-click threat until a LONG time has passed (maybe a midas would alleviate that somewhat? unknown). The plus side being that you can level shrapnel and not worry about how useless it makes your right-clicks since you won't be right clicking anything important anyway lol.
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Now that I think about it refresher sounds amazing very late game, 19 seconds BKB, not so bad.
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I've always wondered if you can refresh the CD on cheese :D
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On August 20 2013 05:25 nojok wrote:
Now that I think about it refresher sounds amazing very late game, 19 seconds BKB, not so bad.
Refresher I think doesn't affect BKB, Necromicon, Midas and a few others...
Or is that just for Re-arm?
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On August 20 2013 05:28 trinxified wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 05:25 nojok wrote:
Now that I think about it refresher sounds amazing very late game, 19 seconds BKB, not so bad. Refresher I think doesn't affect BKB, Necromicon, Midas and a few others... Or is that just for Re-arm?
I believe all of those are just for rearm, since Refresher isn't as abusable. You can't refresh a refresher though.
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On August 20 2013 05:33 PassiveAce wrote:
cheese has a cd?
Fuck that, you can have more than one cheese?
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On August 20 2013 05:36 Plansix wrote:Fuck that, you can have more than one cheese?
i think they stack, but iv never seen a game that got to that point where the cheese needed to be used.
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Cheese stacks, and it has a cooldown (40s I believe). Due to the cooldown, stacking it is generally seen as wasteful since it is unlikely you will get 2 off in one fight whereas an ally could benefit from the extra cheese, slots permitting.
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There were a few games with stacked cheese in TI3, didn't see it get used/cooldown though.
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New meta, 5 man cheese. A true two hour game.
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So apparently Medusa's shield absorbs the damage before any reduction, so does that apply to magic resistance as well? Because I know armor doesn't reduce it.
300 damage nuke will absorb 150 as supposed to 112.5?
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refresher spectre is EXTREMELY powerful. i'm very happy that someone mentioned it in this thread. the majority of spectre's damage comes from her haunt and refresher is the second best item on spectre after radiance. the buildup to refresher is generally treads, ring of health, radiance, vit booster or ultimate orb if necessary, then refresher.
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