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Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
August 18 2013 06:46 GMT
#72661
Yeah the compendium alone probably netted them a profit.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
August 18 2013 06:48 GMT
#72662
On August 18 2013 15:45 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 15:39 konadora wrote:
On August 18 2013 15:30 betamale wrote:
wouldnt be suprised if they did or were close to it

all the items/keys/shop stuff surrounding it


1700 attendees x $50 tickets
1700 x average $200 on secret shop items
$1.3mill x 3 ($2.5/$10 for the compendium) = $3.9 million

pretty sure they earned more than enough :p

i'm willing to bet the event cost upwards of 5million


does it really cost that much?

On August 18 2013 15:41 shizaep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 15:39 konadora wrote:
On August 18 2013 15:30 betamale wrote:
wouldnt be suprised if they did or were close to it

all the items/keys/shop stuff surrounding it


1700 attendees x $50 tickets
1700 x average $200 on secret shop items
$1.3mill x 3 ($2.5/$10 for the compendium) = $3.9 million

pretty sure they earned more than enough :p

average $200 on secret shot items? wat

i've seen people spend thousands in the secret shop

and not to mention it's not just the 1700 attendees, but friends of attendees who would have asked for item purchases as well lol
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betamale
Profile Joined September 2010
633 Posts
August 18 2013 06:50 GMT
#72663
+ keys for ti3 chests and other increased revenue throughout the ti promotion period im sure its enough
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
August 18 2013 06:57 GMT
#72664
So the official Seattle Seahawks twitter tweeted at Dendi.
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Ejohrik
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden219 Posts
August 18 2013 06:59 GMT
#72665
On August 18 2013 15:57 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
So the official Seattle Seahawks twitter tweeted at Dendi.

Pic/link or it didn't happen.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
August 18 2013 06:59 GMT
#72666
That's pretty cool. Dendi so popular
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 18 2013 07:05 GMT
#72667
On August 18 2013 15:59 Ejohrik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 15:57 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
So the official Seattle Seahawks twitter tweeted at Dendi.

Pic/link or it didn't happen.

LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
August 18 2013 08:06 GMT
#72668
The backstory to this, I believe, is that Dendi is still in Seattle and was tweeting from the Seahawks game.
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Supercilium
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-18 09:33:04
August 18 2013 09:31 GMT
#72669
On August 18 2013 15:39 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 15:30 betamale wrote:
wouldnt be suprised if they did or were close to it

all the items/keys/shop stuff surrounding it


1700 attendees x $50 tickets
1700 x average $200 on secret shop items
$1.3mill x 3 ($2.5/$10 for the compendium) = $3.9 million

pretty sure they earned more than enough :p


+ Millions worth of advertising in media/newspapers etc.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
August 18 2013 09:33 GMT
#72670
Plus the $100+ I probably spent on those $3 waters
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EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
August 18 2013 10:10 GMT
#72671
On August 18 2013 18:33 TheEmulator wrote:
Plus the $100+ I probably spent on those $3 waters

$3 water?! Blasphemy! Well I live in a third world nation so I wouldn't know. Hahaha!
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 18 2013 10:30 GMT
#72672
The Marketing and publicity they get alone out of it probably makes it worth it.
WriterXiao8~~
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
August 18 2013 10:35 GMT
#72673
On August 18 2013 15:48 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2013 15:45 Shaella wrote:
On August 18 2013 15:39 konadora wrote:
On August 18 2013 15:30 betamale wrote:
wouldnt be suprised if they did or were close to it

all the items/keys/shop stuff surrounding it


1700 attendees x $50 tickets
1700 x average $200 on secret shop items
$1.3mill x 3 ($2.5/$10 for the compendium) = $3.9 million

pretty sure they earned more than enough :p

i'm willing to bet the event cost upwards of 5million


does it really cost that much?


Probably, yes.
But it of course depends on how you calculate.
Say Valve has an employee who - for 6 months - only works on TI.
Is his salary part of the "TI cost" or do you say "Well, he's employed anyways, so it doesnt really matter".

Or the merchandise. If the merchandise would've been made available only online, people would still have bought some of it. Do you attribute all of it to TI earnings, or just a percentage?
If they make some of it available online after TI, does the cost of creating it count as TI cost or not?

I'd guess with the compendium sales they're able to break even. If you consider that TI is basically just promotion for the game (so a loss is expected) etc it's definitely profitable for them so we will see one next year.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
August 18 2013 10:48 GMT
#72674
i dont think i would go far to say valve was hugely in the red numbers from a pure financial view
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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-18 11:06:05
August 18 2013 11:05 GMT
#72675
Obviously they are not in the red. lol.

I don't think they make a profit.
Shop Items, Compendium Sales, Tickets, Toys/Merchandise.
Valve earned quite a bit from these stuffs.

I think they still make a loss.
$1M for Prizepool,booking of the hall, hiring of casters and paying all the teams/caster flight ticket/hotels/food(these stuff cost a lot especially for those who travel),marketing/advertising through papers.

But Valve is doing it for the publicity and wants to market their Dota 2 to the audience.

The question arises how long Valve can do this?
Play your best
Intact
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden634 Posts
August 18 2013 11:23 GMT
#72676
Lol, playing in Very High game, opponent goes SF TA top as dire. 34-9 21 minute throne kill inc
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
August 18 2013 11:57 GMT
#72677
On August 18 2013 20:05 FakeDeath wrote:
Obviously they are not in the red. lol.

I don't think they make a profit.
Shop Items, Compendium Sales, Tickets, Toys/Merchandise.
Valve earned quite a bit from these stuffs.

I think they still make a loss.
$1M for Prizepool,booking of the hall, hiring of casters and paying all the teams/caster flight ticket/hotels/food(these stuff cost a lot especially for those who travel),marketing/advertising through papers.

But Valve is doing it for the publicity and wants to market their Dota 2 to the audience.

The question arises how long Valve can do this?

Dota2 is a very profitable game, certainly not as profitable as LoL, but enough to sustain 1tournament/year
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ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
August 18 2013 11:57 GMT
#72678
Seriously TL I know we all want props from getting the scoop first, but I don't think we need a thread for every single post-TI shuffle, there's a thread for a reason
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
August 18 2013 12:36 GMT
#72679
On August 18 2013 20:57 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Seriously TL I know we all want props from getting the scoop first, but I don't think we need a thread for every single post-TI shuffle, there's a thread for a reason

But these players need highlights so that we can appreciate what they've done with the team. See SC2 threads.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
August 18 2013 13:29 GMT
#72680
On August 17 2013 10:33 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2013 10:28 TheYango wrote:
On August 17 2013 10:18 Shaella wrote:
I highly disagree with phase/drums, thats like saying GO PHASE DRUMS ON ANTIMAGE BEFORE BFURY


Phase+Drum on Anti-mage is actually a pretty good adaptation to certain games that don't allow you to farm Battle Fury straight-up.

90% of time in pubs it simply does not make sense to play a farm-oriented build that you would see in a competitive game. You generally have to help your team create advantage before you can settle back into a farming-oriented tempo. Otherwise you're basically relying on your teammates to make space for you, which most pub teams don't do very well.

I quit.


I belive it is a matter of spending your unreliable gold. Gold that would be lost upon death.
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